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Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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Date: 
Sat, 1 Jan 2000 03:43:08 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, David Eaton writes:
In lugnet.castle, James Brown writes:
In lugnet.castle, David Eaton writes:
I found an interesting castle set from saudi-arabia on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227975305
It looks like a variation on the Black Falcon Fortress.  Any insights • from
the more knowledgeable folks here?  I noticed that it was numbered 708.
I'm thinking rip-off more and more - take another look at the Black Falcon
Fortress, you will see a number of differences:

http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=6074-1

Yes, DEFINITELY not Black Falcon's Fortress... that much is obvious... three
horses, white figs?, no castle corners with printing, no black spire w/
printed flag, etc, etc... But there is a lot to suggest it IS Lego... after
all, if you were a knock-off, you'd want to save as much money as • possible...
so why try and copy EXACTLY the same emblems, EXACTLY the same logo, a • NEARLY
exact design to 6074, even the flip-top lid... AND add to that the fact that
the box is divided under the lid into two sections (left and right, tall and
thin) JUST like Black Falcon's Fortress... But at the same time, there are
too many things WRONG to make me think it's a bona fide TLC product... VERY
odd...

Well, most of those similarities aren't just to BFF, but to all (large)
Legoland Castle sets, so it may be a style knock-off rather than 1 specific
set.

Yes, I am quite in agreeance...

I'm also curious as to how old this is - it may be just my read, but the
auction listing sounds like it was a recent acquisition.

I think my take on it is that someone bought the set in Saudi Arabia when it
was released (whenever that was... BFF came out in 1986, so maybe roughly
then?).. it was probably played with for a couple years, put back in the box,
and brought to the US during the Gulf War (1991 I think it was?)

Yep. I was in it, I remember ;-)

... and it
promptly sat around in an attic or something until someone decided to auction
it off on Ebay...

Of course, this guy's other auctions are kind of interesting... a lot of civil
war memorobilia, and a car? My read is that this guy is in need of money, and
went through his attic looking for things to auction off... and lo and behold,
a Lego set turned up!

Or otherwise, he was in need of money, so he faked the set...
I don't know, but I'd bet rip-off - too many weird things about this set:
the "translated" Logo, the similarity-yet-differences from BFF, the maybe face-
less minifigs, the number that already has two earlier sets listed on it...

Just my $0.02...

-Shiri



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  Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
 
IT'S A FAKE!! And what is more it is fraud and he can be reported to the internet and consumer fraud department. Most Likely this gentleman took a falcon fortress and made a total fake with suplimented parts. Infact I wouldn't doubt it if the person (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)

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(...) from (...) Yes, I am quite in agreeance... (...) I think my take on it is that someone bought the set in Saudi Arabia when it was released (whenever that was... BFF came out in 1986, so maybe roughly then?).. it was probably played with for a (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.castle)

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