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Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:05:29 GMT
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Kevin Salm <kdsalm@dreamscape.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
FnsuxI.C8@lugnet.com...
> Reference: • http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227975305
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> I don't think the seller can be trusted here. I don't care what he types • in
> an email, he likely is not truthful.
Man, you really went out of your way to solve this mystery!
Great work Kevin!
Just some small notes for info:
> Here is what I believe the situation is:
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> - All of the pieces are genuine Lego elements
> - The box is a genuine Lego box
> - The box is likely the box from Lego 6074 with a totally new image glued • to
> the front and inside cover. I am looking at the boxes for 6073 and 7074
> right now and even the inside cover picture is different. However, I • would
> bet that the rest of the box has been unchanged unless this seller really
> doesn't want anyone to know it was once a Lego box.
> - I do think that if I am correct, the job of putting new images on the • box
> has been done very precisely as the inside cover looks nearly perfect as • far
> as background color and any paper edges showing.
> - Notice that the box divider looks just like the 6073 or 6074 box except
> that the printed words USE THIS BOX FOR STORAGE is not present. I detect • a
> slight yellow color variation so I think that this has been covered up
> (unless it was never on non-US Lego boxes).
Could be though, European sets don't have that sentence printed anywhere
either.
> - The pieces themselves may have come from several Lego sets, mostly 6074.
> This would account for incorrect minifigs, incorrect shields, one extra
> horse, No Yellow Tudor wall section, No Yellow half-arches, No Black • extreme
> slope corners or 4-sided pyramid piece.
> - The printing on the wall segments may have been removed or the pieces • have
> been replaced with plain Gray wall sections from other sets.
> - The most valuable pieces from set 6074 are not present in this auction
> offering. Likely harvested out; other pieces added to compensate and make • a
> more "complete" castle.
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> - From what I see, someone went to a lot of trouble to make us believe • that
> Dalu is actual Lego and has their own offerings of sets. The Logo burns • me
> up. The red Dalu logo is too fuzzy--plus everything everyone else has • said
> about touching the flag, etc. I don't have old-enough non-US Lego Castle
> set boxes to compare it to, but it does not seem to measure up to Lego
> standards. The most striking omission might be piece count if that was
> present on the Lego 6074 Euro boxes.
Nope. We don't get piece counts on any set. :o(
> - I do not know what printed Arabic text looks like, but I think that if
> Lego were to translate into another language, they would use characters • from
> that language. This fake box was done with the English alphabet only--no
> special characters at all. Another sticky point.
>
> - Authenticating the name Dalu has not turned up any toy or plastics
> manufacturers.
> So far this is what I have found:
> 1. Canadian Trademark Database refers me to info on importing Chinese
> industrial goods such as bathroom fixtures
> 2. Shanghai Dalu Friendship International Hotel Equipment and Facilities
> Trading Center
> 3. search of LOCIS.LOC.GOV via telnet (Library of Congress) gives no • matches
> to any searches
> 4. US Patent & Trademark Office searches also have no matches for Dalu or
> Daluland
> 5. No matches in UK Patent & Trademark Office
> 6. Additional online searches futile.
>
> Anyway, that is my view on this. Overall, I believe that the pieces are
> Lego but that it does not correctly represent any specific Lego set. Dalu
> and Daluland are fictitious and cooked up by the seller.
Btw, noticed two other things:
- Don't see a copyright mark after "DALU".
- There's a blue antenna in hte box. (Check the blue and red flags in the
right center of the box.) Did TLC ever ship any other than black or grey
with Castles?
Cheers!
--
Arjan Brugman
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abrugman@casema.net
Arjan.Brugman@philips.com
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