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(...) What you have to look at is the age ranges. Harry Potter, which is similar to older castle in complexity and use of parts, is 8+,7+,8+. Knights Kingdom is 5+,6+,7+. Its one step up from Jack Stone. If you want to compare the old castle stuff (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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I'm somewhat of a lurker, but I saw this as a message I just couldn't ignore. I'll agree with Felix that the new sets, especially the Grand Tournament one, just don't live up to the old castle standards. I recall being disappointed with the first (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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I watch the local stores here in Singapore very closely. They each have a bunch of Yodas, Rebel Blockade Runners, Darth Maul heads, Red Baron Triplanes, Santa Fe Super Chiefs and Legend Black Falcon's Fortress. All of these sets have been sitting on (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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Holger, I already saw the church in some of the pictures released before your posting, and was very enthousiast about it. You've done so well to pick up the charasteristics of the architecture! Applause and much appreciation!! Very impressive. (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jul-04, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.build, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) OK, sorry, I tend to mix them up. (...) ...which in turn is not a real castle, but a relatively modern[1] castle mockup designed by a loony monarch just before he was incapacitated. There were more stage designers than masons involved in the (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) (3 URLs) (...) Absolutely stunning!! This is a lovely, lovely model. Kudos, well done, bravo! (and highlighted) (grumble, grumble, grumble, lugnet made me trim some of the quotes....) JohnG, GMLTC (20 years ago, 7-Jul-04, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.build, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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I was just looking over all the pictures on Brickshelf before you posted. This is really some build! Very nice, very detailed intricate construction. The details and just a joy to look at. Even the light bulb holder is Lego. Great work. e (20 years ago, 6-Jul-04, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.build, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) Two points: 1. Disneyland's castle is Sleeping Beauty Castle. Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom's castle is Cinderella Castle. 2. Sleeping Beauty Castle is a real castle, as it was modeled after Neuschwanstein Castle in Germany. Jason (20 years ago, 6-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) I wouldn't go so far as to say anime is crap. In fact some of it is quite good. But, like it or not, this is the look kids like right now and I don't blame LEGO for trying to play up to that. Anything that makes LEGO sell is, in my opinion, a (...) (20 years ago, 6-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) I second that. The new KK line has nothing in common with the very idea of castles or knights - they are more like a designers-on-acid impression after looking too much television. As someone in this thread pointed out, they look remarkably (...) (20 years ago, 6-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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I guess it’s time for a lurker on .castle to finally say something. There’s a lot to be said about Lego’s choices for what 2004 holds in store for the company, it’s true. The color change had many in a frenzy, and there’s still some sour feelings (...) (20 years ago, 6-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) Yes, I've used that line a number of times, myself. I'll respond with a big "No duh." But, this thread has gone off in a number of directions that I wasn't orignally intending to hit on. My point is as simple as the thread title. The sets are (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) Ha! I'll count you as not a very big fan of my work then... (URL) Castle Saldaar> (URL) Tower of the Mystic Stone> (URL) Green Wizard's Tower> ;^) The Black Knights black/light grey scheme always seemed a bit more evil to me, which is why I (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) It depends on how you approach it: here's my version of the purple knight from the above. (URL) Admittedly, I'd have prefered some grays or blacks for the armor and helmets, but honestly at this point, I'm hoping the Barbie Blue knight proves (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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"Felix Greco" <pggreco@ilstu.edu> wrote in message news:I077EG.1utw@lugnet.com... (...) Hey, come on! Lego at least provided the Space group a few more space helmits! The green one, however, looks like a mix between Boba Fett and the Green Goblin. (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) Along the same lines of Felix' posting: (URL) Looks comical (URL) Looks accurate I'm sure kids will find both equally fun to play with. But maybe not us AFOLs. sigh -Bryan (20 years ago, 5-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) snip (...) After the last two years treated us with Guarded Inn, Black Falcons Fortress, and Blacksmith Shop, these new sets are like a slap in the face. Couldn't they have at least not made the hand guards on the swords backwards? Or used (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) At first I thought they were "ugly" too with the exception of Vladek, but then I've found a good use for ALL of them. I only have a Vladek fig for now, got 1 from BrickLink to "test" parts of him on different troop types. Looks real good, I (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) Great looking keep. I like the sand green colors. Colors I normally don't see in many Castle MOCs. Would probably look even more interesting if there were more sand green slope pieces for the roof. (20 years ago, 4-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle)
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Cool! I honestly don't see what could be offensive about this, she's not showing off any more skin than you would see at the beach, and she's hottie and that's OK! Having said that, this is what I honestly think about the print, and this applies not (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle, FTX)
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In lugnet.castle, Joey Finnell wrote: snip (...) snip Hi Joey, good design, I'm surprised no-one has thought of something like before. Have you thought of doing one as a kind of warrior woman ? maybe a fantasy style with a chain mail bra and loin (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) I'm twelve, and easily the smartest kid in my class, and probably the smartest in my school. I have combined my fanatic obsession with the middle ages(I make chainmail and am in the Society for creative anachronism) and LEGOs into a LEGO club (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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Very cool! I like how you have combied the keep and gatehouse into one. This is something I think sort of happened in the later middle ages, but I hadn't seen any lego castle that used this design. Build on! Magnus (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) D'oh! In my defense, that was one of the scenes from the movie that I tried very hard to forget. I like Glorfindel, too, btw. Bruce (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle)
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Hi Manfred, Thanks for finding these links! I really love these models, especially the Mont St. Michel and the pagodas, so it's great to see larger pictures and get some information. Without text, I had thought that this picture: (URL) was supposed (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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Hi Fritz, Wow. Great MOC. I especially like the light gray with sand green highlights color scheme you have, and the way you worked in the Harry Potter roof elements. I'd like to see some more photos. Bruce (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle)
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Hi Felix, While I agree with your general premise, I disagree on your examples. I actually really dislike the black/light gray color scheme of Black Knight's Castle, and I dislike the dependence on panel walls and raised baseplate. OTOH, Border (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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I've found more information and pictures about this exibit. For most of the models shown in the posted gallery, I recognized the real life sites they represented. For instance, that middle age city Daan Bargerbos mentioned, is Mont-Saint-Michel in (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.castle, FTX) !!
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(...) The question is if they like this specific castle-on-drugs theme or if they'd like _any_ castle theme, such as the old-and-boring ;) gray (or yellow). I don't suggest a reply, I simply don't know. And I don't have the 'material' to test ;-) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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I think that the fact that kids love the sets is more a result of the theme of the sets rather than the quality of the sets. I think we can all agree that Castles and knights have a certain appeal to kids, especially those that gravitate towards (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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Hello all, Joe Meno was nice enough to take some pics of a big MOC I've been working on for some time. It's about five stories tall and 'explodes' to show the full interior (see pics). This is the gate and keep of the complex and has a kitchen, (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I think you are looking at this at the entirely wrong direction. They have had these sets out at LLCA for some time now and last time I was there they even had costume characters walking around dressed up as the KK2 knights. And you know what (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) You can start here: (URL) Martin ;) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) Kid don't want realism, they want cool looking (to them) toys. Today's child market is heavily influence by the anime look of Dragonball, Pokemon, and Yu Gi Oh and I can definatly see the parallel between those themes and the new Castle (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) So what follows is my own personal take on the KK sets. Just because I like it, doesn't mean I'm lying :) Please don't call me a marketing schlub! :) When I first saw pictures of the line, I wasn't much of a fan. They weren't on the top of my (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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My local Toys R Us just received the Knights' Kingdom sets. I'm really on the fence about purchasing these. For one thing, the smallest set is $8.99. Seems a lot for two figures and a horse. But I believe the price points have been discussed (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle)
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(...) David, I disagree completely with you here. Playmobil may not be able to make actual construction toys, but one thing they can do, is make VERY nice and real looking castles. The new Lego Knights Kingdom sets neither look nice, nor resembles (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) I think you find more people think its Arwen (or Legolas if they like Bashki) ;) Pity, I always liked Glorfindel. Especially as he appears to have been killed in the first age, then came back mid 2nd or 3rd age (depending on what you read), it (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I have to agree with you Felix. LEGO is my #1 hobby, but my #2 is medieval stuff (weapons mostly). I have many books with photos of real castles, so I can recognize a good/accurate castle model done in LEGO. The 2004 castle sets resemble (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) Actually...I thought the 8778 was one of the better sets that came out... :) Benjamin Medinets PS... want to see ugly, see the Grand Tournament set. (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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