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First of all, no one is trying to "pass" any clones as being the real thing. (...) Second, Tyco is NOT "crummy", it's just different. I don't use it but I think you're letting your emotions get in when you toss around "crummy". Tyco made blocks that (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK, here's an analogy... Hopefully this will illustrate the purist's point of view and why it's not arbitrary... You go into a restaurant and order big fat juicy third-pound burger with all the fixings, a side of french fries, and a big tall (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I haven't thought about this much and I can only speak for myself, but when I see water or skies or starry backgrounds, or fire or smoke or sand or anything like that, to me it's just "background stuff" to round out the image -- just as LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Dave, remember you're not the problem. You're just the person to bring up an issue that needs to be discussed and worked out for the future of LDraw and ldraw.org. Opinions welcome :) (...) Its good that you're agreeing about the official (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I've been trying to keep a low profile on this thread after having stirred the pot at the beginning, but now that I think of it, I have a few pseudo- philosophical questions. There've been myriad discussions of the merits and shortcomings of (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Personally, I wouldn't care one way or the other *intrinsically* if ldraw.org decided to host off-brand elements... What I (personally) would be very sad to see is LEGO stuff being *mixed* with off-brand stuff. That's what I meant by going the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I hate to reply just to insert a "me too", but I whole-heartedly agree. And folks (I won't name names) second-guessing James' prejudices without actually having *met* him exhibits more than a fair amount of arrogance, IMHO. The way I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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I am pretty purist myself and can't see using clones or modeling with them (except in trains if some clone comes along and delivers what most trainheads want at acceptable quality levels), but I repeat my thesis: Why be exclusionary? What's wrong (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Tim: (...) It certainly could be, but it would take some time due to my (slightly paranoid?) view of CGI programs - even those I write myself. I am not sure if the current version just needs some minor fixes or a complete rewrite based on lessons (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Tom, Steve Bliss has taken over Terry's position at Terry's request. As far as I understand, 9907 (or 2000-01) is in the works. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where you'll face eternal (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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ive noticed there has been no update for... ( heart attack , keels over... ) ... 6 months. if the developement of ldraw can progress, someone needs to pacage up 9906's parts and give them to tim C. , or jacob. someones gotta pickup where terry left (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Question- Should the Parts Tracker be moved to ldraw.org? IMO it would be more accessible and easier to use there, and the site is a natural location for such a utility. Just a question/suggestion, not pushing anything. It would be nice for it (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Its time to make another thrust forward in the development of ldraw.org, and the winter season is the perfect time for it. So far, we've gotten the site up and its been a success. LDraw now has a permanent home and dedicated website to the cause. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.org.us)
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(...) I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your interpretation is correct. (...) The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject to change. (...) Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Reading the (URL) page, I always thought it was just assumed (in the "commonly understood" sense) that the purpose of ldraw.org was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not for non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree. Happy Thanksgiving! -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair running full speed while taking a crap. -Tom Ace (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Good observations. A program optimized for K'Nex and a K'Nex parts library would benefit the fans of K'Nex, but again, LDraw should focus on Lego brand products. If the ldraw.org /non-lego/ section *is* added, how much exposure should such a (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) It would probably work well in the renderers, but you would need to create a new editor (LEdit type program) optimized for K'Nex pieces instead of LEGO pieces... You would probably have to use a smaller scale, too, because K'nex constructions (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) It would make sense to package the clone parts together by brand. (...) Good thought. It probably wound work quite well, just like Lego. My remaining opinion is - try to stay with the original intention of LDraw, and lets not let it be (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That's what I was thinking. It would actually be kinda cool to have various files for different brands. A "Tyco Parts Pack" and a "Coco Brick Parts Pack", and etc. -- Steve I've always wondered how well K'nex would work in LDraw. (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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