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  Re: License Intent
 
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, "Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote: [snipped tons] (...) Sorry I'm coming late to this party... At some point in this thread, Larry stated something about 'decoupling' the two licenses. To some (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
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  Re: License Intent
 
(...) Well, that's been our M.O. so far. So if we continue to distribute files under that umbrella, we won't be in any worse shape than we are now. (...) Yes. Agreed. However, we can (and probably should) start labeling everything that is covered (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
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  Re: LDraw Part Request - Goblet Fill
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Mark Chittenden wrote: --snip-- (...) Ahh, that's perfect! Just what I needed, thanks. :) Nothing too detailed and overdone, just makes it look like people aren't drinking from empty glasses. :) Thanks a ton for helping. If (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
 

ldraw
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  Re: LDraw Part Request - Goblet Fill
 
(...) Whipped up a simple "filler" piece for the goblet. Fills the goblet to 3/4's full. Works best as a solid color in a translucent goblet. Here's a pic, the part will be available via my Brickshelf folder when it passes moderation. The goblet on (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  Re: License Intent
 
All what follows is my opinion only. (...) authors "give up copyright". Let's not confuse PD with right of redistribution. Let's not confuse giving up copyright with right of redistribution. What I am suggesting is that by posting a part to the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  Re: License Intent
 
(...) You are correct here, I should have used the term 'file' or 'work' instead of 'part'. From a copyright standpoint I mean 'work of an author'. (...) There are two ways to looks at this issue. 1) Get permission of all those involved and get them (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  LDraw Part Request - Goblet Fill
 
I was hoping someone could help me out with this. I'd do it myself, except I don't have the skills yet. I'm looking for something to fill the castle goblet. It needs to look right for a drink inside the goblet (this means maybe even not up to the (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  Re: License Intent
 
(...) How are parts individually copyrighted? Actually, what exactly is a 'part'? Is a shock absorber a single part, or an assembly of several parts? How about a minifig torso (as they exist in lego sets)? If you want to talk about have to copyright (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  Re: License Intent
 
(...) Is a non commercial clause part of the SteerCo's intent? It wasn't mentioned in the initial post or in Larry's update. Could you clarify for me? Discounting the use of rendered parts in commercial products, eg. Larry selling ldraw rendered (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  Re: License Intent
 
(...) Would it work if the license says that any future changes need author approval, but have a timeout? If after, say, 30 days of asking for approval (on ldraw, lugnet, and in email) there's no responce, the approval is assumed? Maybe 30 days is (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  Re: Ebrace and Extend (was Re: Non-commercial clause)
 
(...) Understood. (...) Agreed. (...) As long as people understand the trade-offs. Adding redistribution restriction clauses is tricky and hard to get right. Frequently people can work around them. (...) It is quite possible, although I doubt that (...) (20 years ago, 6-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.355)

  Ebrace and Extend (was Re: Non-commercial clause)
 
(...) (For those of you who do not know, GPL=Gnu Public License.) GPL is one strategy. I prefer an innovate over litigate strategy. The GPL is complex and in certain critical areas extremely vague. The GPL attempts to mandate innovation by requiring (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  Non-commercial clause (was Re: License Intent )
 
(...) [snip] (...) It is very hard to define what commerical vs. non-commercial use is as the examples above demonstrate. One of the best ways to ensure that part authors do not feel "ripped off" is to ensure that the library is alwasys freely (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  Re: Ebrace and Extend (was Re: Non-commercial clause)
 
(...) I agree that GPL might not be the right license to use here - I was just using it as an example of how the "extension" problem might be dealt with, as far as the license goes. Of course that we would always want the LDraw format to be the most (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  Re: License Intent
 
(...) <blink> How is the second item (a) a "protection" and (b) required by "the fundamental goals of Ldraw.org"? I would observe that Linux and the GNU Project seem to have done fine, despite frequent commercial redistribution for a charge (by Red (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  LDraw.org Ad-Hoc Organizing Committee - Wrap-Up and Thank You
 
The LDraw.org Ad-Hoc Organizing Committee (4+1) would like to take the time to publicly wrap up its duties as the provisional authority for LDraw.org with a few words. First, a big thank-you to everyone who helped in the organizing process. We thank (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.org, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)  
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  Re: License Intent
 
(...) (personal thoughts) I think your suggestion could work. I'm very wary of requiring absolute explicit permission for any future changes, though I do want to ensure the authors' wishes are considered in potential future changes. The reason is, (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  Re: Ebrace and Extend (was Re: Non-commercial clause)
 
(...) It is my understanding of the GPL that no such re-submission is required. As long as you agree to the GPL terms and give appropriate credit to the original author, you can publish your mods as a separate work (or upgrade) under the GPL. (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  Color Defining Systems Summary?
 
I think that there are a number of different systems for defining new or custom colors in the large number of LCad programs, right? Most of them are considerate towards original LDraw and other tools that are not supporting that system. But I think (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

  Re: License Intent
 
This is post to sum up my ideas before I pop off on holiday for a few days. 1) Consider making the license apply to more than just parts or the parts library. This would allow things like documentation or software to be distributed too. 2) I would (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

ldraw
(score: 0.354)

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