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Re: Ebrace and Extend (was Re: Non-commercial clause)
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Sat, 5 Jun 2004 23:28:10 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Wayne Gramlich wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Dan Boger wrote:
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 06:23:43PM +0000, Wayne Gramlich wrote:
The more sticky problem that occurs is when somebody does an "embrace
and extend" strategy. For example, suppose I take the LDraw.Org
library and add surface normals for every polygon. For many rendering
algorithms, the surface normals allow more efficient back-culling. As
another example, suppose somebody figures out how to add connection
information to all parts. Before you know it, everybody wants to use
the embraced and extended library, not the official LDraw.Org library.
Again, I see the way to ensure that this does not happen is for the
LDraw.Org Standards Committee to agressively keep pushing the LDraw
format forward so that everybody always wants to use the official
version.

Wouldn't this problem be solved by the GPL approach, where any
modifications made have to be re-submitted to the original library?
This way, yes, you can make your cool changes, and sell them, but you
have to send the patches back to the original parts, where they can
either be integrated or not, depending on what the PT admins think.

It is my understanding of the GPL that no such re-submission is required. As
long as you agree to the GPL terms and give appropriate credit to the original
author, you can publish your mods as a separate work (or upgrade) under the GPL.
However most open souce authors generally encourage it.

I may have missed something though.

(For those of you who do not know, GPL=Gnu Public License.)

http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

GPL is one strategy.  I prefer an innovate over litigate strategy.
The GPL is complex and in certain critical areas extremely vague.
The GPL attempts to mandate innovation by requiring people to
give back to the community.

I think the better strategy is to have an active standards committee
that ensures that the LDraw file format has always got the best features
in it.  For example, if the "embrace and extend" library has surface
normals, and the standards committee adds surface normals to LDraw
file format, which format will people write software for? the closed proprietary
format or the open LDraw file format?

I agree this would be a better strategy. Encourage authors to submit format
improvements to Ldraw.org but do not require it. Note that any possible
improvement makes a lot of work for whoever is approving the official format, as
well as the author.

ROSCO



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: Ebrace and Extend (was Re: Non-commercial clause)
 
(...) You are corrrect. Re-submission is not required. Library changes only need to be published. [snip] (...) Agreed. It is bunch of work for just about everybody involved. However, the result is typically better than if you go off on your own. (...) (20 years ago, 6-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Ebrace and Extend (was Re: Non-commercial clause)
 
(...) (For those of you who do not know, GPL=Gnu Public License.) GPL is one strategy. I prefer an innovate over litigate strategy. The GPL is complex and in certain critical areas extremely vague. The GPL attempts to mandate innovation by requiring (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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