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| | | (...) How much of a pain? Can it be as simple as a window prompting them to give approval to add them? Or is it much more painful than that? (...) Sounds good, we'll have a better picture of what's needed as far as a menu goes when resources are (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | (...) There is an exe file that microsoft publishes that contains the core vb runtime dll files. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | (...) You *don't* want to use a VB-based program as an installer. Before a VB program can run, all the VB-runtime files have to be installed. This means that the setup program has to install multi-megabytes of *system* files before the user sees (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | Steve Bliss wrote: < don't use a VB based installer> That is the truth!!! In spades. Trust me. Been there, did that, got the T-Shirt. (...) InstallShield? (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | | | | | Larry: (...) [...] (...) Probably. It's a mess to use (IMO), but you can get pretty good results with it. Play well, Jacob (who generally claims total ignorance of Windows) ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL: (URL) > -- (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | (...) That is all well and good but remember that is a lot of cases the vb runtime dlls are going to be installed anyway, when things like LDAO or the like are installed. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) So? In many more cases, the VB runtimes will *not* be installed. And the not-installed machines are more likely to be run by the technically-un-savvy. An easy-to-use installer doesn't do any good if it won't run on the majority of machines. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | (...) of (...) I haven't been following this thread to closely, but uh, are you considering machines that are not running Windows. LdGLite 0.4 is due to be released real soon and should run pretty well on Linux and the Mac in addition to Windows. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | | | Don: (...) There should definitely be binaries for both DOS, Linux, and MacOS where it is possible. Or maybe no DOS and just MS-Windows? How many OS/2 users do we have? (at least one) (...) Isn't that what the ISO-(can't remember the number) file (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | (...) I was under the impression that the ISO-9660? filesystem was only 8.3 UPPERCASE or something like that. All the operating system vendors then added their own extensions to get long filenames with mixed case. Linux uses Rock Ridge. Microsoft (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | (...) Apple wants a partition type "HFS" which is their disk system. Having one makes your CDROM appear natively: icons, window placement, file type/creator codes all that stuff is embedded in HFS directories. Many hybrid CDs (games) have separate (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | (...) UPPERCASE (...) makes (...) Yes, HFS, that's it. A search for "HFS", "rock ridge", and "joliet" turns up several GUI tools for making hybrid CD filesystems such as the ones at www.cdeverywhere.com and www.cdr.com. I've personally only used the (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Mike Stanley
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| | | | (...) Well, I don't like the idea of asking someone to install runtimes before "my" program will work. It looks cheesy, I think, and unprofessional. And it certainly wasn't an option for the company I was doing this project for or for me, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Tim Courtney
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| | | | (...) Yeah, I agree here. (...) Ok, will do. I'll at least play around with it to get a feel. Is it WYSIWYG? (I guess I'll find out)... -Tim (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Mike Stanley
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| | | | (...) You'll find out, and yes, it is a layout-type program. Get it setup the way you want it, and if I can take your saved project file and just compile it (you'd have to give me a place to grab the cd from, or maybe burn one copy for me) and burn (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Tim Courtney
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| | | | (...) So like, I should design the look of it the way I want, and you'll make it work or something? (sorry, its late, I got back from being out and having the most fun I've had in a LONG time, so my brain's a little fried) -Tim (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: Organizing the LDraw CD-ROM —Mike Stanley
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| | | | (...) Right. I *think* you should be able to design it and save it, then send the saved file to me, and let me compile it into the distributable executable. I don't *think* there are licensing issues with that, but I will check. I know I'm licensed (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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