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Re: Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
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Date: 
Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:03:42 GMT
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Niels:
> > The window frame and the glass are actually two seperate parts,
> > glued together. When making the glassed version of the 7930 door.
> > I have been told to create a new part for the glass, currently
> > x268.dat and 7930c01 for a combination of the door 7930.dat and
> > glass x268.dat.

Tore:
> Oh no, so the 7930 door also exists in a without-glass version? I was
> happily unaware of that.

I don't know about a real glassless version of the 7930 door, but I
noticed when rendering the 368 taxi house that the 7930 door did not have
glass. The current official LDraw part 7930.dat has no glass!

Since I have only glassed versions of the door (except those where
the glass fell out...) I wanted to add glass to the door and asked
Steve or Chris about partnames. I've been told to give the glass
a seperate partnumber, since it was an actual seperate part.

> Anyway, I strongly doubt that the *glass* exists
> without door (except from after accidents), therefor the glass is NOT a
> separate part and the glassed door is NOT an assembly! The unglassed door
> (if it exists?) is a sad variant and definitely not the standard form. I
> have seven pcs of 7930 doors, all with glasses.

I think it is meant that the door and the glass are two seperate
pieces of plastic and seperately molded and thus worth two seperate
partnumbers. I think TLG also used two different numbers to identify
them.

But let the partnumber-gurus decide what we (the LDraw related community)
should use ;-)

> If you could move the glass realtive to its frame, it would have been
> different and we would need the glass as a separate part, but now it's glued
> and become a part of the one part.

On the other hand, it is more likely to have a glassless windowframe part
and use that as a subpart for the combination with glass. Saves diskspace
and prevents redundancy (maintaining two almost identical files).

> There is the Door  1 x  3 x  4 and appearantly there is also a variant that
> should be called Door  1 x  3 x  4 without Glass - even if I've never seen one.

Or the glassless version and the glass parts should have a title
starting with a tilde (~) so they don't appear as individual parts.

> > 
> > I'm curious about Chris Dee's and Steve Bliss' opinion about this
> > windows issue?
> > 
> > Niels
> 
> I'd like to hear when and why Steve and Chris are going to use that x268.dat
> separated from its context and put into a new!
> 
> > Likes these windows a lot! (as many more of the old parts)
> 
> Me too, that's why I don't like the way they are treated in the LDraw library.
> /Tore

Niels



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(...) That's looking from the manufacturer's point of wiev. I prefer to look at LDrawing from the builder's. When there are TLG part numbers available, of course they should be used. But I see no point wasting 3-digit numbers in vain. (...) Maybe I (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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  Re: Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
 
(...) Yes. (...) You're right. I thought that the 'a' version was the version most likely to be used, but now, looking at tiles and 1x1 round bricks, I noticed that my theory fell. (...) Oh no, so the 7930 door also exists in a without-glass (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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