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Re: Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
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Date: 
Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:03:42 GMT
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Niels:
The window frame and the glass are actually two seperate parts,
glued together. When making the glassed version of the 7930 door.
I have been told to create a new part for the glass, currently
x268.dat and 7930c01 for a combination of the door 7930.dat and
glass x268.dat.

Tore:
Oh no, so the 7930 door also exists in a without-glass version? I was
happily unaware of that.

I don't know about a real glassless version of the 7930 door, but I
noticed when rendering the 368 taxi house that the 7930 door did not have
glass. The current official LDraw part 7930.dat has no glass!

Since I have only glassed versions of the door (except those where
the glass fell out...) I wanted to add glass to the door and asked
Steve or Chris about partnames. I've been told to give the glass
a seperate partnumber, since it was an actual seperate part.

Anyway, I strongly doubt that the *glass* exists
without door (except from after accidents), therefor the glass is NOT a
separate part and the glassed door is NOT an assembly! The unglassed door
(if it exists?) is a sad variant and definitely not the standard form. I
have seven pcs of 7930 doors, all with glasses.

I think it is meant that the door and the glass are two seperate
pieces of plastic and seperately molded and thus worth two seperate
partnumbers. I think TLG also used two different numbers to identify
them.

But let the partnumber-gurus decide what we (the LDraw related community)
should use ;-)

If you could move the glass realtive to its frame, it would have been
different and we would need the glass as a separate part, but now it's glued
and become a part of the one part.

On the other hand, it is more likely to have a glassless windowframe part
and use that as a subpart for the combination with glass. Saves diskspace
and prevents redundancy (maintaining two almost identical files).

There is the Door  1 x  3 x  4 and appearantly there is also a variant that
should be called Door  1 x  3 x  4 without Glass - even if I've never seen one.

Or the glassless version and the glass parts should have a title
starting with a tilde (~) so they don't appear as individual parts.


I'm curious about Chris Dee's and Steve Bliss' opinion about this
windows issue?

Niels

I'd like to hear when and why Steve and Chris are going to use that x268.dat
separated from its context and put into a new!

Likes these windows a lot! (as many more of the old parts)

Me too, that's why I don't like the way they are treated in the LDraw library.
/Tore

Niels



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  Re: Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
 
(...) That's looking from the manufacturer's point of wiev. I prefer to look at LDrawing from the builder's. When there are TLG part numbers available, of course they should be used. But I see no point wasting 3-digit numbers in vain. (...) Maybe I (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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  Re: Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
 
(...) Yes. (...) You're right. I thought that the 'a' version was the version most likely to be used, but now, looking at tiles and 1x1 round bricks, I noticed that my theory fell. (...) Oh no, so the 7930 door also exists in a without-glass (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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