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Re: Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
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Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:02:49 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Tore Eriksson writes:
If you look closely at Classic Windows, you'll find that there are
diffeences in many details. See
http://home.swipnet.se/simlego/pix/compare3.jpg for the details I have found.

See suggested 27a.dat, 27b.dat, and 27c.dat (recently posted).

The oldest windows I have, have solid studs and solid bottom pins.
Those a little newer have open studs but still solid bottom pins.
Then some of them got what I call thin walls.
Then slotted bottom pins.
At last, and at least in my collection the most common variant: no holes on
top and with shorter ledge.
(There is also a VARIANT of 1x2, 2x1, and 1x1 that I am forced to
unwillingly mention: So called "windows" without glass. Peep holes would be
a more proper name for them! Some bag maker are probably to blame for their
existens. This most obscure variant is *NOT*, I repeat *NOT* the standard
version of those windows! Even if they happen to be more common in the US(?))

So, how many versions should we include? As it is now, there is at least one
too little.
My suggestion is:
* Solid/hollow studs: Ignore, always use hollow studs
* Solid/slotted bottom pins: Ignore, always use slotted bottom pins
* Thin/thick walls: Use thick walls only for the 6-wide windows.
* Long/short ledge: Too important to neglect. Make two different versions.
(a) Short ledge, no top holes (wide glass in 646a.dat)
(b) Long ledge, with top holes (narrow glass in 646b.dat)
And for the 3 exceptions mentioned above
(c) Short ledge, no top holes, without glass

Are the long ledge versions older than the short ledge versions?
Why not have the oldest version 'a' and the newer version 'b', etc.

The window frame and the glass are actually two seperate parts,
glued together. When making the glassed version of the 7930 door.
I have been told to create a new part for the glass, currently
x268.dat and 7930c01 for a combination of the door 7930.dat and
glass x268.dat.

I'm curious about Chris Dee's and Steve Bliss' opinion about this
windows issue?

Niels
Likes these windows a lot! (as many more of the old parts)



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  Re: Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
 
(...) Yes. (...) You're right. I thought that the 'a' version was the version most likely to be used, but now, looking at tiles and 1x1 round bricks, I noticed that my theory fell. (...) Oh no, so the 7930 door also exists in a without-glass (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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  Classic Windows: How many versions? Please respond!
 
If you look closely at Classic Windows, you'll find that there are diffeences in many details. See (URL) for the details I have found. See suggested 27a.dat, 27b.dat, and 27c.dat (recently posted). The oldest windows I have, have solid studs and (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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