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Re: possible error in the usage of part 80.dat
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Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:07:04 GMT
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When I look at the 78.DAT, it looks to me like there _is_ overlap
between the segments.  Can you be more precise?  In what way is there
no overlaps between the 80.DAT segments?

from my measurements the thick part is 3LDU and the small part is 2 LDU.
looking at 80.dat it looks like you have a length of 1.8 for the cilinder
(which is probably more accurate), yet when placing 2 80's next to eachother
(like in 78.dat) this becomes 3.6, So I thought the correct way of usage
would be to have the end cilinders of 2 parts overlap completely.

> >  btw, since this part is official, I would like to use its design ,
yet the overlapping small segments I would like to replace with a
cilinder which overlaps with 2 rings (in order to get a smooth
curve). So I would simply make a new part from part 80 whitout the
cilinders.  Can/May I do this?

I don't understand what you mean by the first part of the paragraph.
But if you are asking if you can modify and redistribute a part of the
parts library, this is yet to be decided.  There is still no terms of
use licence for the parts library.

0 ~Technic Ribbed Hose Segment
0 Name: 80.dat
0 Author: Fredrik Glöckner, adapted from th.DAT by Mark R. David
0 Official LCAD Part - 2000-02 Update

1 16 0 1.5 0 -6.5 0 0 0 1.8 0 0 0 6.5 4-4CYLI.DAT  <--- removed
1 16 0 1.5 0 -6.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6.5 4-4EDGE.DAT
1 16 0 1.5 0 -2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 RING3.DAT
1 16 0 1.5 0 -8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 4-4EDGE.DAT
1 16 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0.5 0 0 0 1 4-4CON8.DAT
1 16 0 1 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 4-4EDGE.DAT
1 16 0 1 0 -9 0 0 0 -2 0 0 0 9 4-4CYLI.DAT
1 16 0 -1 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 4-4EDGE.DAT
1 16 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 -0.5 0 0 0 -1 4-4CON8.DAT
1 16 0 -1.5 0 -8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 4-4EDGE.DAT
1 16 0 -1.5 0 -2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 RING3.DAT
1 16 0 -1.5 0 -6.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6.5 4-4EDGE.DAT
1 16 0 -1.5 0 -6.5 0 0 0 -1.8 0 0 0 6.5 4-4CYLI.DAT <--- removed
0


then i could alternate between this and a cilinder (or custom made
triangles) of length 6 (to get a 2 ldu overlap in each part)

Otherwise I would have to use plain cilinders. But since this is the
official part, an altered design for the same part could impossible become
official. Which is the same reason why my electric wire is a simple
rectangle.


For your own personal use, you are of course free to use the parts
library in whatever way you want.  (I suppose.)

The part would be included with my bend thingie creator
http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m9815058/ ), so I guess it isn't
personal use.

Koen



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  Re: possible error in the usage of part 80.dat
 
(...) I don't know what the "correct" way to use the 80.DAT is. In 78.DAT they are put so that they overlap by 0.4LDU. Yes, they do overlap in 78.DAT. This makes the distance between the "thick parts" 3.6 - 0.4 = 3.2. The width of the notches is (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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  Re: possible error in the usage of part 80.dat
 
(...) The segments should overlap slightly, yes. Take a look at the 78.DAT, and you will see that the cylinders overlap a bit. This is to avoid "holes" when the hose is "bent". Here's an example of a bent hose: (URL) now, when looking at the awesome (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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