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Re: [part] Updated S\973S01.DAT
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Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:56:05 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Steve Bliss writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Chris Dee wrote:
> > My personal (perfectionist) preference would be to remove the mark from
> > 973s01.dat and add it in the correct colour to each decorated torso.
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> Right.
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> Since 973.dat would be the only file without a neckmark, it makes sense to
> keep the 3/4 neck in s\973s01.dat, and have each torso file supply the
> remaining 2-4cyli.dat with whatever color was appropo.
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> > Since I have authored the majority of the torsos, I feel a responsibility to • do
> > this (wishing I'd challenged the status quo when I started).
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> Have a go at it, if you want. Although I still feel a certain ownership of
> the core torso design...
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> > I'd need to check
> > that this does not create more varients where we have hardcoded the torso
> > colour.
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> Good point. Doing a very small survey, it appears that nearly all neck
> marks are either black or white. Which limits the potential impact.
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> It appears there are three torso-files where the base torso is fixed-color:
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> 973p11.dat Minifig Torso with Dungarees Pattern
> 973p65.dat Minifig Torso with Futuron Pattern
> 973p15.dat Minifig Torso with Horizontal Stripes Pattern
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> Steve
I have commented the neck mark area out of s\973s01.dat - actually it is only a
1/4 cylinder.
0 Uncomment for neck mark
0 1 16 0 -4 0 4.243 0 -4.243 0 -8 0 -4.243 0 -4.243 1-4cyli.dat
and will today be sending the amended subpart and the fixes to all the
currently approved torsos to Steve. These inlcude this extra line setting the
neck-mark colour appropriately.
If other authors have torsos in-the-pipeline (ie. submitted for voting), could
you please make this small amendment and resubmit.
Below I summarise the neck mark colours I applied to the existing torsos, but
this has raised some issues (detailed below).
973.DAT Base part : 16
973P01.DAT Vertical Striped Red/Blue Pattern : Black
973P02.DAT Vertical Striped Blue/Red Pattern : Black
973P11.DAT Dungarees Pattern : Black
973P14.DAT 'S' Logo Red / Black Pattern : Black
973P15.DAT Horizontal Stripes Pattern : Black
973P16.DAT Airplane Logo Pattern : Black
973P17.DAT Red V-Neck and Buttons Pattern : White
973P18.DAT Suit and Tie Pattern : Black
973P19.DAT Train Chevron Pattern : Black
973P20.DAT Waiter Pattern : White
973P21.DAT Five Button Fire Fighter Pattern : White
973P22.DAT Red Shirt and Suit Pattern : White
973P23.DAT 'S' Logo Grey / Blue Pattern : Black
973P24.DAT Red Cross Pattern : Black
973P25.DAT Red Cross and Stethoscope Pattern : Black
973p26.DAT Patch Pocket Pattern : White (or Black)
973P27.DAT Autoroute Pattern : White (or Black)
973P28.DAT Leather Jacket Pattern : White
973P31.DAT Pirate Stripes Pattern (Red/Cream) : Black
973P32.DAT Pirate Stripes Pattern (Blue/Cream) : Black
973P33.DAT Pirate Stripes Pattern (Red/Black) : Black
973P34.DAT Open Jacket over Striped Vest : Black
973P35.DAT Imperial Guard Pattern : Black
973P36.DAT Pirate Captain Pattern : White
973P37.DAT Imperial Guard Officer Pattern : Black
973P41.DAT Castle Chainmail Pattern : Black
973P42.DAT Castle Crossed Pikes Pattern : Black
973P43.DAT Black Falcon Pattern : Black
973P44.DAT Wolfman Pattern : White
973P45.DAT Studded Armor Pattern : White
973P46.DAT Forestman and Purse Pattern : Black (or Silver)
973P47.DAT Castle Red/Gray Pattern : Black
973P48.DAT Forestman Maroon Collar Pattern : Black (or Silver)
973P49.DAT Forestman Blue Collar Pattern : Black (or Silver)
973P50.DAT Forestman Black Collar Pattern : Black
973P51.DAT Blacktron II Pattern : Black
973P52.DAT Blacktron I Pattern : White
973P60.DAT Shell Logo Pattern : Black
973P61.DAT Gold Ice Planet Pattern : White
973P62.DAT Silver Ice Planet Pattern : White
973P63.DAT Robot Pattern : Black
973P64.DAT Unitron Pattern : White
973P65.DAT Futuron Pattern : Black
973P66.DAT Spyrius Pattern : Black
973P68.DAT MTron Logo Pattern : Black
973P90.DAT Classic Space Pattern : Black (or White)
973P101.DAT SW Rebel Pilot Pattern : Black
Some torsos exist with more than one colour neck mark, but I think it would be
pedantic in the extreme to model both versions.
973P26 (Patch pocket) has White or Black on the Blue version and White on the
Black version - so I have coded white as being usable for both.
973P27 (Autoroute) exists in White or Black - I have arbitrarily coded White
973P46 (Forestman and Purse Pattern) has Black or Silver on the green version
and black on the Grey version - so I have coded Black as being usable for both.
973P48/49 (Maroon/Blue collared Forestmen) have Silver or Black (and maybe the
Black version does too) - I have arbitrarily coded Black
973P90 (Classic Space) has Black on the Red/Blue/Yellow versions, but White on
the Black version - I have coded Black, which means the Black version is
inaccurate.
Chris
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Message has 5 Replies:
 | | Re: [part] Updated S\973S01.DAT
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| As per Chris' instructions, I just sent updated copies of the three minifig torsos I've done (p45, "Studded Armor [Fright Knights]; p70, "Bomber Jacket [Town]"; and, p102, "SW Rebel Mechanic") to Steve. Since the change is to the neck, which isn't (...) (26 years ago, 5-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad)
| | | Re: [part] Updated S\973S01.DAT
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| Thank you, Chris! I think you made good choices where there are conflicting neck-colors. Did you note these issues in the part files? Also, would you mind making a 937p00.dat file, "Minifig Torso with Neck Mark Pattern"? Steve (26 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad)
| | | Re: [part] Updated S\973S01.DAT
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| (...) Great! I see you have discussed the neck-mark in lugnet.cad.dat.parts and come up with a brilliant solution. The neck-mark has always been a PITA to me; it is THE ONLY linetype 1 we have with color 24. POV has no notion of a "reverse" color (...) (26 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad)
| | | How wide is the neck-mark?
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| (...) Hey, Chris, are you certain about this? The revised subfile that I copied from a previous message on this thread has a *half*-cylinder hole for the neck-mark, not just a *quarter*-cylinder. Because the gap in the subfile that I copied is a (...) (26 years ago, 23-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad)
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