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Re: LDraw Official Model Repository (OMR)
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lugnet.cad
Date: 
Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:21:26 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, James Reynolds wrote:
> > > I'm going to start development on the LDraw.org OMR.   Currently
> > > I'm in the brainstorming and idea phase of the project.  Here's my
> > > ideas:
> 
> Ok, this shows how clueless I am, but what language will it be?  Will
> it be part of the postnuke framework?

Presumably, yes.

> Is it PHP?

Yes

> 
> > > - Automated submission via forms
> > > - Submissions moderated prior to inclusion in the database
> 
> Ok, I'm not promising, but I actually may like to do that.
> Especially if I get to deny submissions because it was modeled
> badly.  :D  Or at least be able to give it a grade (I don't really
> want to deny everything, but would like to be able to improve model
> submissions if possible).


That's great.  I'm not sure I'd want to reject a legitimate submission outright
but it could be assign a "need work" tag.  I'm also not interested in making the
OMR like the Parts Tracker.  In other words, I want definitive moderation and
not a voting system.

> > > - Automatic previw image generation
> > > - Searchable via theme, set title, set number, etc..
> > > - Cross links to Peeron inventories
> > > 
> > > Questions:
> > > - How to handle unofficial parts
> > > 
> > > Your ideas, requests, suggestions?
> > 
> > Should it allow for multiple versions of the same set? Seems mean
> > if 2 people
> > both happen to have done the same set not to be able to credit them
> > both. And
> > there's the problem of who decides which one is "best" anyway.
> 
> I think multiple versions is a good idea.  Maybe it would also reduce
> multiple versions since people will notice the set is already created.

Multiple versions are alright I suppose but I'd like to flag one as "preferred"

> > Maybe it could be like brickset too, where viewers can add
> > comments. Though they
> > would have to be moderated too, increasing the workload for
> > moderators.
> 
> Sounds cool.

Comments are good.  I'd also like to see comments from moderation process.

> > And what about partial sets? Someone may decide they want to submit
> > (e.g.) the
> > B-Wing, but not it's stand, or 1 vehicle in a multi vehicle set.
> > Should that be
> > possible?
> 
> Why not.  Maybe there should be 3 categories:
> 
> - Lego official sets, LDraw official
> - Lego official sets, non-LDraw official
> - MOC

Partial is good.  I like the idea of separate model in separate submissions.  As
far a MOCs, I'm on the fence.

> > And as well as the auto-preview, people should be able to submit
> > their own
> > renders.
> 
> What about vr objects or movies?  Is there server space to store that
> stuff?  I always thought vr objects were much better ways to view
> models, and they are really easy to create if you know how.
> 
> And has anyone thought of writing something that allows a person to
> create an image preview in a webapp?


Wow, you like to think big.  I suppose movies and VR are possible and the system
should be built to allow different mediums.  As far as a web app, that would be
cool and is probably feasible given today's technology.

> > As far as unofficial parts go, I don't see any problem allowing
> > them, unless
> > it's difficult to make them available to the auto-image generator -
> > it looks
> > like the most common viewers and editors are all starting to get
> > auto part
> > download functionality, so as far as the user is concerned, it
> > should all get
> > handled after they retrieve the file.
> 
> A lot of MOC's include the unofficial parts they use as well,
> especially since sometimes they will change.  So it uses what it was
> created with.
> 
> Ok, and I'm showing my favoritism for Anton Raves library, but we
> could also generate POV-Ray files for submissions too, using L3P and
> Anton's converter.  I'm not sure he would like that or not, but just
> an idea.

My concern with unofficial files is not orientation change (as that seems to
happen early in the life cycle of a part) but name change.  Unless we store
everything a MPD with unofficial parts included, name change could become a
problem.

One more thing, I think all submissions should fall under the CA.  Thoughts?

-Orion



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(...) Writing a JAVA applet to view LDRAW files is certainly fesable given a good JAVA programmer (which I am not). One may already exist :) With such an applet it could pull the dat files (official or otherwise) from the web on an as-needed basis (...) (20 years ago, 19-Dec-06, to lugnet.cad)

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(...) Ok, this shows how clueless I am, but what language will it be? Will it be part of the postnuke framework? Is it PHP? (...) Ok, I'm not promising, but I actually may like to do that. Especially if I get to deny submissions because it was (...) (20 years ago, 19-Dec-06, to lugnet.cad)

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