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            Re: Define Mecha Types Por Moi...
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      In lugnet.build.mecha, Mark Sandlin writes: 
> In article <GpswMI.7yJ@lugnet.com>, "richard marchetti" 
> <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote: 
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> > Could someone please explain the differences between light and heavy mecha 
> > for me?  Does it describe function or appearance? 
>  
> I guess it depends on the person defining, but as for my mecha, I have 
> Light, Medium, and Heavy. They generally refer to the size and armament of 
> the mecha. I don't have very strict rules for this. I usually just build a 
> mecha and then take a look at its size and armaments and make a judgment 
> call :^) 
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> Here are my loose definitions: 
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> "Light" mecha have only a few small guns, with perhaps a missile rack of 
> light missiles, and are generally small and quick, with light armor. 
 
These are also well known as powersuits or power armor. These were a step up in 
size from Iran Man's armor. Iron Monger would be a good example of the smallest 
type of power armor. 12-14 feet tall at the highest. Chicken walkers like the 
AT-ST might be considered light necha if you have apply loose definition to it. 
 
> "Medium" mecha would have more armor and perhaps both light and heavy 
> weapons in addition to missiles. 
 
Yep. These would be the extra-bulky powersuits commonly shown to be 20-40 feet 
tall. These are the ones that can withstand sustained automatic gunfire. 
 
> "Heavy" mecha would be fairly loaded-down with weapons, especially heavy 
> weapons, and would most likely have at least two missile racks (if it 
> carries missiles) 
 
Think of a tank with legs. :) 60-150 feet tall depending on the source of the 
info. These would cost more than the GNP of most countries to build (Japan 
excluded, obviously) :) 
 
I'd agree with your definitions, Mark. I do recall one additional element to the 
definition but I don't recall where I read it. Light, medium, and heavy refer to 
the 'weight class' of the mecha. Light was something like 15-30 tons, medium 
weighed in at 40-60 tons, and heavy mecha were 75-100 tons. Anything larger was 
too big to support it's own weight. I suspect this might have been part of the 
FASA mech definition, but I really don't remember. 
 
> Not every mecha needs missiles, but it sure is cool to let fly with a 
> missile swarm of Macross proportions. :^) 
 
No doubt! 
 
> > Be advised that I haven't seen much material on the subject beyond Voltron, 
> > Zoids, or some such thing -- all of which don't really qualify as mecha, or 
> > so I assume. 
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> Sure they do. They're just not Gundam-style mecha. 
>  
> Voltron is one of the first "super sentai" mecha, where there is a 
> super-team of heros who pilot various mecha that combine (like Power 
> Rangers) 
>  
> Zoids are animal-shaped mecha, but they still have little pilots in the 
> heads, so as far as I'm concerned, they're mecha. :^) 
>  
> The only things I don't consider mecha are the big ugly square-looking 
> things that FASA came up with for their Battletech game. They then went on 
> to copyright the term "mech" and were very nasty about it for a while. 
> This is especially ironic because some of their "mechs" were direct 
> ripoffs of various mecha from Macross (Robotech) 
 
I'd disagree with you here simply because these 'chicken walkers' owe more to 
the AT-ST for their existence than they do traditional mecha. They too have 
pilots and similar firepower to all other mecha. I do prefer to call these 
mechs, though, as I consider them to be the predecessors of the more refined 
versions of mecha we see today. 
 
> HTH 
>  
> ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head 
> -- 
> Mark's Lego Creations 
> http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego/ 
 
-Dave 'Lego Mecha' Johann 
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  |  (...) Incorrect. The Zentraedi mecha we see in Macross/Robotech were directly ripped off and used in Battletech and Mechwarrior. Case in point: (URL) Battle pod was used by FASA and renamed the Marauder. They stole the Veritech in Battroid mode and (...)   (24 years ago, 12-Jan-02, to lugnet.build.mecha)   
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  |  (...) I guess it depends on the person defining, but as for my mecha, I have Light, Medium, and Heavy. They generally refer to the size and armament of the mecha. I don't have very strict rules for this. I usually just build a mecha and then take a (...)   (24 years ago, 12-Jan-02, to lugnet.build.mecha)   
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