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Re: Define Mecha Types Por Moi...
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Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:51:09 GMT
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In article <GptCHq.LI9@lugnet.com>, "Dave Johann" <legomecha@adelphia.net>
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> > The only things I don't consider mecha are the big ugly square-looking
> > things that FASA came up with for their Battletech game. They then went on
> > to copyright the term "mech" and were very nasty about it for a while.
> > This is especially ironic because some of their "mechs" were direct
> > ripoffs of various mecha from Macross (Robotech)
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> I'd disagree with you here simply because these 'chicken walkers' owe more to
> the AT-ST for their existence than they do traditional mecha.
Incorrect. The Zentraedi mecha we see in Macross/Robotech were directly
ripped off and used in Battletech and Mechwarrior.
Case in point:
http://www.3dgamedev.com/robotech/Mecha/Officers_Pod.html
Glaug's Battle pod was used by FASA and renamed the Marauder. They stole
the Veritech in Battroid mode and called it the Wasp.
Here is a link discussing FASA's usage of the designs:
http://www.writers.badkarma.net/steelsage/battletech/missing-mechs/main.shtml
> They too have
> pilots and similar firepower to all other mecha. I do prefer to call these
> mechs, though, as I consider them to be the predecessors of the more refined
> versions of mecha we see today.
They weren't really predecessors. They were present in Macross alongside
the transforming veritech fighters.
If anything, the mecha of today owe a lot of their humanoid stylings to
the Jumbo Machinder super robot TV shows of the 70's. However, the
granddaddy of them all, Tetsujin 28 (Gigantor in USA) was
remote-controlled by a little kid. If I recall correctly, Mazinga Z was
the first Machinder to have its pilot sitting inside its body. Check out
the original Mobile Suit Gundam. It looks a lot like one of the old Super
Robots. (and there was even a Jumbo Machinder toy made)
Over the years, Gundam has become more stylized. Some of them are more
militaristic, like Heavy Arms, and others more fantastic, like Gundam Wing
Zero (the one with the feathery wings) They've even incorporated some of
the popularity of transforming mecha (Gundam Wing, Z Gundam)
Lately, it's become more popular to make humanoid mecha, but to make the
head less human (like a single eye sensor). Stuff like Heavy Gear tend to
look more like walking tanks than the heavily stylized mecha. In either
case, you can trace their roots back to good ol' Tetsujin 28. :^)
~Grand Admiral Muffin Head
--
Mark's Lego Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego/
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| (...) Wow! I guess I was more on the right track with the stuff I am familiar with than I realized -- I watched Gigantor as a kid in b&w. I also remember there being a movie called something like "Voyage Into Space" with an Egyptian looking fellow (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jan-02, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| (...) These are also well known as powersuits or power armor. These were a step up in size from Iran Man's armor. Iron Monger would be a good example of the smallest type of power armor. 12-14 feet tall at the highest. Chicken walkers like the AT-ST (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jan-02, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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