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Re: Evangelion construction
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Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:31:52 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Christopher Kalos writes:
> Newbie alert! That's me. Lurker for a while, but I just signed up recently
> to post.
Congrats! Welcome to the club! More mecha postings are always welcome.
> Sadly, I lack a camera to show my work, and I took it apart anyway to retry
> the design, but I've just started work on a large-scale Evangelion.
No problem. I'm sure we'll see it in time. Tough design to work on, btw. I've
tried it myself and can't get it to work the way I want to.
> Mind you, I don't know if I've got enough parts, and I know I lack the cash
> to go on a Brickbay spending spree, so I may end up with a skeleton and
> fairly detailed head.
I feel your pain. :) Build with what you have-suppliment with small bulk
purchases.
> So, let's see if I can describe this beast... and get some tips :-)
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> The head's being built as a skull with armor plating to be added later.
> I've got a jaw joint design that I may be able to use from the previous
> revision of the head. More importantly is the scale that I'm at.
Could you post the approximate dimensions in studs that your head is? That might
give us a better idea of what you want to accomplish.
> The entry plug is actually a truncated fuselage (with heavy modifications!)
> of the 6356 Med-Star Rescue Plane, so it *can* fit a minifig or two inside.
Hmmm...8x8x6 perhaps? If so, this seems quite large for nearly any mecha head
(Cankerworm excepted).
> Since I lack purple pieces
Don't we all! Try finding people parting out the mindstorms Extreme Creatures
sets for more. Alternately, Cyberslam works in a pinch, but you'll have to use
studless beams.
> (as should anyone who only uses Lego, unless I
> missed something important,) I'm going to end up making a custom armor
> design and color scheme. I seem to have a decent amount of red and black,
> with a smidge of grey and green as well. Let's just call it Unit 14, or
> 01a, or whatever. Due to parts shortages, it'll definitely only have two eyes.
Try to stick to a main color (60%-70%), secondary (20%-30%), and tertiary (10%)
color scheme if at all possible. I'd recommend eliminating the grey if at all
possible as green makes a fantastic third color. Four color mecha only work well
if three of the colors are shades of the same with a fourth, very different,
color. An example of this would be building a mecha that is red (25%), sand red
(20%), dark red (20%), and dark grey (35%). The dark grey helps to 'pull' the
other colors together and make them work. Dark grey is the best color I've found
for accomplishing this, btw.
> All of this mentioned, I'm guessing that the final unit size might be
> somewhere along 2 feet tall, if not higher. Since I only have 4 turntables
> and 6 worm gears, I don't see this going very far unless someone here knows
> some good tips for alternate joint designs that won't fall victim to gravity
> so easily. The fact that I've picked such a slender (bio-)mecha design
> probably doesn't help, but Gundams are becoming too popular, and I wanted to
> try something fairly original.
Throwbot gear boxes. Without them the two foot barrier is almost impossible to
breach. They are very strong joints and quite small for the strength they
provide. Currently, I'm using them to power a large mecha claw and I'm still
amazed at their strength.
Using turntables means that your creation won't be as slender as you think.
Their very size determines how large your joint will be. Look at the workings of
Eric Sophie or Brian Cooper for examples of this. This is one of the reasons I
usually forego the large technic turntables.
Wormgears will provide you with the smallest geared joints possibile, but you'll
need more than 4 to hold a two foot tall monstrosity together.
> Any tips? I mostly have standard parts, along with the contents of three
> bionicle sets and 2 RIS sets (1.5 and 2.0) and some other things which I
> can't recall. Pretty basic stuff, not many custom pieces just yet.
Which Bionicle sets? Perhaps we can work out a trade deal that nets you quite a
few joint parts if you have what I'm looking for. Email me about this one. Yes,
I'm quite serious.
Bionicle torsos are hideously strong parts being that they are a single piece.
Unfortunately, I don't think the gear on the bottom has ever been used by a
mecha builder. Even my newest creations can't make use of it. It's that 3 wide
construction...it goes against the 'even' nature of lego building.
The joint parts are quite useful. The best example I've seen recently is Adrian
Drake's Sensei Trainer mecha. Very posible. Note the use of dual joint parts to
form a single joint. That's the basis for many a big mech. To give you an idea,
I'm using 4 of the throwbot arm parts (Pohatu's arms) in tandem to create a
strong ankle joint. It's flexible and holds an large amount of weight.
Obviously, the more parts used in tandem, the less flexibility there will be as
they are working together as well as against one another.
Suggested parts-more Throwbot joints-any joint will do. Throwbot gear box-not
the rectangular ones. Click hinges-use multiples for strength and armor. Axles,
axles, axles...
Suggested sets-Stormtrooper or C-3P0. These are great parts fodder for mecha
builders. Most of the speed slammer sets are great fodder as well. Most Bionicle
EXCEPT Gali and Onua-their arm parts hurt mecha building far more than they
helped. Bohrok sets will be a BIG boost for mecha builders as well. Look for
them in March.
> Thanks in advance!
>
> CK
-Dave (Who wouldn't mind talking about this more via email.)
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| (...) Well, the skull's about 6x6x4 without the jaw joint or armor plating. I'll estimate at least 8x8x6, maybe a bit larger with the chin :-) (...) Quite large, yes. Up there with Brian Cooper's designs, I suppose. (...) Wait... there *are* purple (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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