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Re: Nwe MOC: Goliath
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lugnet.build.mecha
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Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:57:50 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, danny staple orionrobots@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Danny.
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About the mecha, I concur with Eric, that the greebling really shows
off this mecha. Though I have to be honest, there is something about
the face which seems off - I think the eyes could be a little more
forward facing.
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I see what you mean but I wanted to have an insectoid touch to the face. And
second I think the head would get too wide if the eyes faced more forward.
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It is also really worth reading the moc page on this
one as well.
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Special thanks for this one. Doing a MOC page is lot of work epecially if you
have to use a foreign language.
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The legs look good, and chunky - the use of slopes to give them a well
rounded look looks good. . I possibly feel that the torso could be
more chunky, giving it a bit of width over the legs, but then that
would change the look entirely, so I am not sure about that. It just
seems a little thin and out of proportion with the legs.
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The third version of the body (the one with the slide out cabin) was wider over
all. But it looked off in some way. It was should have been higher. But was
already to heavy. And it missed the side to side action. Which made the complete
mecha nearly unposeable.
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I agree with every word that Eric said on the feet -that is a cool
technical victory. The hip movements, added with the rest of the
normal expected posability make this one of the most poseable mechs I
have seen. Its is actually only after seeing the rear of the mech, you
realise just how much gearing has gone in to acheive this. Even the
knees are poseable through the gearing - nice.
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I had to do it this way, on every other attempt the gear control axle iterfeared
with the movement.
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Do the two round bricks on the back of the hips control the hip splay?
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Yes they do. The hip incorporates splay, side movement of the leg and normal
forward/backward action for both legs.
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However, after looking through all the slides, and hearing Erics
concerns, the arms really let the posability down. Trying to read your
description - using a single stud connector, doesnt that have issues
with being a really fragile connection too?
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Seems my description was a bit missleading!
This is how its connected.
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The weapons in the arms
look great, but the actual forearms themselves feel like they were not
chunky enough compared with the upper arms, legs, and feet.
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I didn’t think of arms really. Its only weapon mounting. So every thing mounted
below the shoulders belongs to the weapons.
But you and Eric mentioned the arms as a weak part. Should think about that a
bit more. Goliath will last some time, so refinements will be possible.
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The fact the pilot can slide out in what looks like a jet pack chair
is a cool touch, it brings home the scale, and shows a means of
boarding on the battlefield. However, in the WIP photos, there was
also what looked like a very cool slide out cabin section which I am
intrigued by, any reason you decided against that?
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I thought for quite a while how a pilot could board and escape such a big mecha
on the battle field. The solution was a jet pack chair.
I liked the slide out cabin a lot, but in the final version there wasn’t enought
space to keep it.
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Is the mech
spacebound or more comfortable on terra firma? I only ask because of
the jet pack and helmet of the pilot.
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Goliath was designed to got his way on stable ground. Seems to be a heavy one.
No jet packs or jump jets.
The pilot is equiped with a full life support
system. Those pilots have to be well trained and skilled. So it’s only
reasonable to try to save their lives. A mecha can be built faster than a pilot
is trained.
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In response to Eric - sometimes, it is difficult to add anything of
substance beyond “yeah this is really cool”, which I suppose is
gratifying (I would have like some kind of response to the only mech I
have so far posted here), but no one wants to sound like a lame suck
up with nothing less superficial to say.
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I think even this is fine. Just let the builder know you had a look and liked it
(or not). If you don’t like to reply just highlight the original post.
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As a few posts gain momentum, it can go one of two ways, if can give
people even less to say, as no one likes repeating people, although
you could just go along the lines of - I agree with every word he
said, or it could actually spark off a real brick conversation - with
some constructive critiscism - did you think to try blah or blah, or
wouldnt it be cool if you did X.
Then you get into the territory of those with criticisms, often
constructive, but not wanting to sound cheeky, or rude. I like it, but
it would be much better looking if you replaced blah. Some people may
feel their critism may not be well received (although they are
probably wrong), and might just not post it.
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For my person I’m glad on constructive criticism. I always try to give critics
on a creation and never on the creator (not in public!).
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I agree, people should make more of an effort, and maybe be reassured
that somebody wont jump down their throats for saying “yeah, that is
just really awesome” if that is all they really have to say on it.
I will admit to having lurked on .mecha a long time before I start
posting there.
--
Danny Staple MBCS
OrionRobots
http://orionrobots.co.uk
(Full contact details available through website)
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Thanks again for the reply,
your thoughts on the mech and
your thoughts on posting behaviour
Marco
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On 10/12/05, Eric Sophie mylegomaster@aol.com wrote:
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Amazing! There is so much to say about this build.
Where do I start?
SNIP
Thanks for sharring Marco, great work.
e
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