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Re: Nwe MOC: Goliath
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Date: 
Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:02:15 GMT
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Hi,
About the mecha, I concur with Eric, that the greebling really shows
off this mecha. Though I have to be honest, there is something about
the face which seems off - I think the eyes could be a little more
forward facing. It is also really worth reading the moc page on this
one as well.

The legs look good, and chunky - the use of slopes to give them a well
rounded look looks good. . I possibly feel that the torso could be
more chunky, giving it a bit of width over the legs, but then that
would change the look entirely, so I am not sure about that. It just
seems a little thin and out of proportion with the legs.

I agree with every word that Eric said on the feet -that is a cool
technical victory. The hip movements, added with the rest of the
normal expected posability make this one of the most poseable mechs I
have seen. Its is actually only after seeing the rear of the mech, you
realise just how much gearing has gone in to acheive this. Even the
knees are poseable through the gearing - nice. Do the two round bricks
on the back of the hips control the hip splay?

However, after looking through all the slides, and hearing Erics
concerns, the arms really let the posability down. Trying to read your
description - using a single stud connector, doesnt that have issues
with being a really fragile connection too? The weapons in the arms
look great, but the actual forearms themselves feel like they were not
chunky enough compared with the upper arms, legs, and feet.

The fact the pilot can slide out in what looks like a jet pack chair
is a cool touch, it brings home the scale, and shows a means of
boarding on the battlefield. However, in the WIP photos, there was
also what looked like a very cool slide out cabin section which I am
intrigued by, any reason you decided against that? Is the mech
spacebound or more comfortable on terra firma? I only ask because of
the jet pack and helmet of the pilot.

In response to Eric - sometimes, it is difficult to add anything of
substance beyond "yeah this is really cool", which I suppose is
gratifying (I would have like some kind of response to the only mech I
have so far posted here), but no one wants to sound like a lame suck
up with nothing less superficial to say.

As a few posts gain momentum, it can go one of two ways, if can give
people even less to say, as no one likes repeating people, although
you could just go along the lines of - I agree with every word he
said, or it could actually spark off a real brick conversation - with
some constructive critiscism - did you think to try blah or blah, or
wouldnt it be cool if you did X.

Then you get into the territory of those with criticisms, often
constructive, but not wanting to sound cheeky, or rude. I like it, but
it would be much better looking if you replaced blah. Some people may
feel their critism may not be well received (although they are
probably wrong), and might just not post it.

I agree, people should make more of an effort, and maybe be reassured
that somebody wont jump down their throats for saying "yeah, that is
just really awesome" if that is all they really have to say on it.

I will admit to having lurked on .mecha a long time before I start
posting there.
--
Danny Staple MBCS
OrionRobots
http://orionrobots.co.uk
(Full contact details available through website)

On 10/12/05, Eric Sophie <mylegomaster@aol.com> wrote:
Amazing! There is so much to say about this build.

Where do I start?

The Head:

Wow, talk about grills!
The shape of the back of the head is cool and you hinged the dishes for the
eyes! I like it. Only a face a mother or Mecha builders would love!

The Shoulders:

Large dishes on the upper shoulders, very cool!
Uses Technic Throwbot Gear Boxes internally! Super awesome!
The details, wow.

The Chest:
Get out of town! That is so unique!
Instead of a sculpted chest, you have raw details directly on the front.
Very bold!
I see from the work in progress pictures that you changed the entire chest.
Amazing.

The Side to side bending:
No way! Shogun! Watch out!
Yet another amazing triumph. Wow you are a good builder!
How did you like building all that technic in to the body?
Very functional, like a real machine.

The Hips:
WOW. You managed to get all the movements in that space using this set up.
I love it! Clan Snowleopard!

The Upper Legs:
Check out that detail! Clips, rounded parts, grills, details and more details!
Amazing.

The Lower Legs:
No way! that section just above the ankles is so very nice looking.
You have all kinds of building techniques going on there, that is so very well
done! Bravo.

The Feet:
WOW. You did it! A foot that bends but still puts the weight on the "ball" of
the foot. You go down in history my friend! I also like how you have wing
plates
in there, reminds me of your style.

The Back:
Just as well made as the front!
The read access for the pilot is sweet! Direct influence from Shogun?
Or does the mechanics in the center of the chest dictate this set up.
I'd imagine the center of the machine is loaded with spinal mechanisms, so you
probably had a tight fit. I see from the work in progress pictures that you
also
changed this significantly from the final version. Amazing!

Over all:

I am very impressed!
I only would suggest in the future, if you could get some of the same mobility
that you have on the rest of the body, in to the arms that would be good.
Either
way this is a great build, loads of details everywhere, lots of cool building
techniques and a fantastic level of technical function.

That's how to build a Mech.

Great work! Well worth the wait!

Now, a question to the rest of Lugnet:

Why is this post top story with NO highlights and NO replies?
You people ought to stop lurking so much and stop taking peoples MOCs for
granted. Ya'll want to look but never say anything. That is ridiculous.
I am very dissapointed to see Marco work so hard only to have the rest of you
look and not say anything. Like Mecha is the great voyuer of Lugnet.

I know his post is early still, however I know it will be treated the same,
you
all look but have nothing to say.

I say look again and really look this time. Look inside yourself and figure
out
what is wrong here.

Sorry Marco. I had to say something. Your work deserves more than Top Story
with
no substance and no replies.

Let him know what you think, there is more than enough building techniques
here
to satisfy.

Thanks for sharring Marco, great work.

e




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(...) Hi Danny. (...) I see what you mean but I wanted to have an insectoid touch to the face. And second I think the head would get too wide if the eyes faced more forward. (...) Special thanks for this one. Doing a MOC page is lot of work (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)

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  Re: Nwe MOC: Goliath
 
Amazing! There is so much to say about this build. Where do I start? The Head: Wow, talk about grills! The shape of the back of the head is cool and you hinged the dishes for the eyes! I like it. Only a face a mother or Mecha builders would love! (...) (18 years ago, 10-Dec-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)  

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