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Re: Quarterback Passing Efficiency?? -- Hear me out!!
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Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:44:35 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Brian Pilati wrote:
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Brian Pilati wrote:
Speed and Strength
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After a night of pondering, I have found more parts that create movement.
I have also thought (any suggestions) that we should have a separate speed and
strength number. Some parts are faster than their weight or visa versa.
Here is the new part list
Part
| | Peeron Number
| | Speed
| | Strength
| | Note
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| | 3794
| | 1
| | 1
| | Fast but no strength
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| | 4085 / 6019
| | 1
| | 1
| | The extended arm creates more torque and thus a weaker joint, IMO :)
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| | 2555
| | 1
| | 1.25
| | The lack of an extended arm creates less torque and is a stronger joint, IMO
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| | 4081
| | 1
| | 1.75
| | Without a stop this is not a strong joint but with the ring fasteners it is not going to release anytime soon
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| | 4276 / 4275 / 2452
| | 1
| | 1.5
| | Again, no stop makes it a fast joint but also weak but is has more weight
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| | 3680c01
| | 1
| | 1.75
| | Fast movement but no strength without a stop
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| | 3937/3938
| | 1
| | 2
| | Fast movement but no strength without a stop but more weight
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| | 2444 / 2817 / 2476 / 3700 / 6232 / 30000 / 30592
| | 1
| | 2
| | These are fast but without stops they have no strength
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| | 4315/4213
| | 1
| | 2.75
| | This is a fast hinge without a stop but it has wieght
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| | 3403c01
| | 1
| | 3
| | This is a fast hinge without a stop but it has wieght
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| | 30383
| | 2
| | 3
| | The stop makes it stronger than it weights but it is still fast
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| | 482
| | 2
| | 3
| | The stop makes it stronger than it weights but it is still fast
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| | 44301 / 44302 / 44567
| | 2
| | 3
| | The stop makes it stronger than it weights but it is still fast
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| | 203
| | 2
| | 3.5
| | Fast as it gets with good strength
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| | 32173
| | 2
| | 4
| | Again, fast as it gets and the second ball joint ads strength
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| | 30365
| | 2
| | 4
| | Fast on the speed and strong with the click stop and weight
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| | 3647
| | 5
| | 5
| | This is an average speed joint but it is strong. Abs breaks first
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| | 48169/48170/48171
| | 2
| | 5
| | Fast and strong
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| | 41679 / 41681
| | 2
| | 5
| | Fast and strong
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| | 44224 / 44225
| | 2
| | 7
| | Fast and strong
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| | 3648
| | 6
| | 8
| | Speed is good but we know that the weight causes the joint to slow. Strong
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| | 3649
| | 7
| | 9
| | Speed is good but we know that the weight causes the joint so slow. Can you say, unbreakable
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| | Fixed Joint
| | N/A
| | 10
| | 10
| | Some joints are just fixed. Uber strong but no speed
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So with the updates to the parts and the new column, I had to update the perl
script. I also added a multipilier to the code to average the speed and
strength.
The multiplier consists of:
1- Adding all the speed and weight numbers together
2- Finding the average
3- Dividing by 10
4- Multipling the resultant from line 3 with the speed and strength factor.
Examples
Humanoid
Joint Types: 21
Speed Total: 1035
Speed without multiplier: 49.2857142857143
Speed multiplier: 0.214285714285714
Strength Total: 1759.5
Strength without multiplier: 83.7857142857143
Strength multiplier: 0.364285714285714
Speed: 10.5612244897959
Strength: 30.5219387755102
Reverse Knee
Joint Types: 21
Speed Total: 1125
Speed without multiplier: 53.5714285714286
Speed multiplier: 0.214285714285714
Strength Total: 3672
Strength without multiplier: 174.857142857143
Strength multiplier: 0.364285714285714
Speed: 11.4795918367347
Strength: 63.6979591836735
Quad
Joint Types: 21
Speed Total: 1170
Speed without multiplier: 55.7142857142857
Speed multiplier: 0.214285714285714
Strength Total: 5661
Strength without multiplier: 269.571428571429
Strength multiplier: 0.364285714285714
Speed: 11.9387755102041
Strength: 98.2010204081633
I think it still needs work. Without the multiplier, it is too high and with
the multilier it is too low. Maybe I need to divide by 5 step 3 or add a step 5
and multiple by 2 (same diff)
Here is the new perl code
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#Turn off Perl buffering
$| = 1;
######################
# To view all of the results for accuracy, set this to 1, if not 0
######################
my $PrintAllResults = 1;
######################
#Initialize the variables
######################
my ( $i , $j , $nSpeedSubTotal , $nStrengthSubTotal , $nSpeedGrandTotal, $nStrengthGrandTotal , $nSpeedMultiplier , $nStrengthMultiplier );
######################
#This array is for all the Mech styles
######################
my @arMechTypes = ( "Humanoid" , "ReverseKnee" , "Quad" );
######################
#This array is for the ideal joints per each Mech
#Need to be in the same order as the Mechs Styles
######################
my @arIdealJoints = ( 23 , 25 , 26 );
######################
#These arrays is for all of the strengths and speeds for each known joint
#These arrays needs to be in sequential order from lowest to highest, since
#we are going to drop the high and low
######################
my @arJointSpeeds = ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 5, 6, 7, 10 );
my @arJointStrengths = ( 1, 1, 1.25, 1.75, 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2, 2.75, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3.5, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10 );
######################
#The Testing Process
######################
#Loop through the styles
for ( $i = 0; $i < $#arMechTypes + 1; $i++ ) {
#print the Mech Style
print $arMechTypes[$i] . "\n";
#Reset the total variables
$nSpeedSubTotal = $nSpeedGrandTotal = $nStrengthSubTotal = $nSpeedGrandTotal = $nSpeedMultiplier = $nStrengthMultiplier= 0;
#Loop through the joint strengths and speeds
for ( $j = 1; $j < $#arJointSpeeds; $j++ ) {
#Find the ideal speed for each joint
$nSpeedSubTotal = $arIdealJoints[ $i ] * $arJointSpeeds[ $j ];
#This prints all of the results, if desired
if ( $PrintAllResults ) {
print "\t $arIdealJoints[ $i] :: $arJointSpeeds[ $j ] :: $nSpeedSubTotal\n";
}
#Calculate the multiplier
$nSpeedMultiplier += $arJointSpeeds[ $j ];
#Total all of the individual joint types
$nSpeedGrandTotal += $nSpeedSubTotal;
}
for ( $j = 1; $j < $#arJointStrengths; $j++ ) {
#Find the ideal speed for each joint
$nStrengthSubTotal = $arIdealJoints[ $i ] * $arJointStrengths[ $j ];
#This prints all of the results, if desired
if ( $PrintAllResults ) {
print "\t $arIdealJoints[ $i] :: $arJointStrengths[ $j ] :: $nStrengthSubTotal\n";
}
#Calculate the multiplier
$nStrengthMultiplier += $arJointStrengths[ $j ];
#Total all of the individual joint types
$nStrengthGrandTotal += $nStrengthSubTotal;
}
#Since we started $j at one, now minusing 1 from j basically (In perl) drops the high and the low
$j--;
#Calculate the multiplier
$nSpeedMultiplier /= $j;
$nSpeedMultiplier /= 10;
$nStrengthMultiplier /= $j;
$nStrengthMultiplier /= 10;
#Print the total and number of joint types after dropping the first and last, if desired
if ( $PrintAllResults ) {
print "\n";
print "Joint Types " . $j . "\n\n";
print "Speed Total: " . $nSpeedGrandTotal . "\n";
print "Speed without multiplier: " . $nSpeedGrandTotal / $j . "\n";
print "Speed multiplier: " . $nSpeedMultiplier . "\n\n";
print "Strength Total: " . $nStrengthGrandTotal . "\n";
print "Strength without multiplier: " . $nStrengthGrandTotal / $j . "\n";
print "Strength multiplier: " . $nStrengthMultiplier . "\n";
}
#print the ideal strength and speed of each mech style
print "\nSpeed: " . $nSpeedGrandTotal / $j * $nSpeedMultiplier . "\n";
print "Strength: " . $nStrengthGrandTotal / $j * $nStrengthMultiplier . "\n\n";
}
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Brian
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Message is in Reply To:
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| (...) Okay, I am back with more information. Speed and Strength ===...=== IMO these two are really inverses of each other. A speedy mech is not strong becuase it lacks the ability to carry enough armor. Now on the other hand a strong mech, because (...) (20 years ago, 21-Feb-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
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