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Re: Advertising on lugnet
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lugnet.admin.terms
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Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:38:19 GMT
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I understand that some postings on lugnet.robotics arrive via the
lego-robotics@crynwr.com service and I think that is a valuable connection
which should be retained despite the slim possibility that it may result in
a breach of the terms and conditions imposed on direct posters to lugnet groups.
However, I think the post (421) below is relevant and the increased focus it
brings on the do's and don'ts of "commercial" posts. I would recommend that
it be instated and followed. I assume that the group moderators would be
responsible for sending polite "reminders" to offending posters stating that
the rules can be found in the terms and conditions area of the lugnet site.
My interpretation of a commercial post is one in which the poster has some
direct or indirect interest in promoting the subject product or service
described in the post.
I have personally "judged" my own posts in one rather specific area to be
non-commercial as follows;
When we develop new products, we typically set aside half a dozen or so
preproduction samples to be sent out, entirely free of charge, and with no
mention of the company name associated with the offer. I believe this does
not contravene either my own feelings about what the groups are for or what
the current or proposed terms of use may say. I am open to criticism on this
point and would obviously cease this practice if it was deemed to be too
commercial.
Our purpose in doing this is to get feedback on the durability of the
product idea and the suitability for its intended use. The beneficiaries in
this case are other lugnet users who see the posts and are happy to try the
things out.
I think the issue of commercial use of lugnet is, however, very important. I
would like to see the terms of use clearly spelled out and enforced.
John Barnes
In lugnet.admin.terms, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.admin.terms, John Barnes writes:
> > I recently noticed an unabashed advertisment placed in the robotics group
> > and I've been trying to figure out if advertising is appropriate or not in
> > those kinds of groups (as opposed to the market areas).
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> I think the intent is that it is not, unless the group specifically allows
> it. See this thread (this is a post from the middle... but it has a proposed
> clarification in terms that seemed to be well received and that addresses
> this very point)
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> http://news.lugnet.com/admin/terms/?n=421
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> However, isn't .robotics a special case? Not special in that it ought to be
> exempt from the rules per se, but special in terms of difficulty of
> enforcement. See the header of the group: http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/
> where it describes that this is a gatewayed group that shares posts with a
> mailing list.
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> I'm not sure which post you're referring to, so I don't know if it came from
> the mailing list or not, but if it did, I suspect enforcement will require a
> lot of finesse, or not be possible.
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> Hope that helps.
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| (...) I agree. Further while I think some tolerance is appropriate for non LUGNET(tm) users, (and I veer way out into the hypothetical here) someone who is a LUGNET user but posts commercial stuff that way as a loophole exploitation should be called (...) (22 years ago, 16-Oct-02, to lugnet.admin.terms)
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| (...) I think the intent is that it is not, unless the group specifically allows it. See this thread (this is a post from the middle... but it has a proposed clarification in terms that seemed to be well received and that addresses this very point) (...) (22 years ago, 16-Oct-02, to lugnet.admin.terms)
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