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Re: Followup-To, ex post facto, or theory and practice of forceFUTting
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lugnet.admin.nntp
Date: 
Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:16:08 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Jeff Findley wrote:
In lugnet.admin.nntp, Todd Lehman wrote:
I have implemented a web interface feature which allows an news admin* to
apply a slight change to a news article:  If for some reason the 'Followup-To'
header on a post was set incorrectly, or was left empty when it should have
been set, this can now be fixed.

This is a great addition to the community.  It's better than your typical
moderation, which kills the discussion entirely.  Hopefully people will have an
easier time ignoring discussions they don't want to see, because they will be
moved to the appropriate newsgroup.

As long as this feature isn't abused (e.g. moving discussions into the
equivalent of a /dev/null newsgroup), I don't see any problems with this
approach.

a FEW questions/comments.

1) This isn't a perfect fix, mail and nntp posters are not going to see the
changes.
2) posts aren't moved, only the FUT is forced.

Questions:

Consider this thread: http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=48521&t=i&v=a

I just forceFUTed the whole thread to lugnet.lego (it's off topic for
General...)  Arguably there were a couple of posts that could belong in
market.theory or market.shopping.

The only notice I gave was this:

http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=48550

What do you (generically, everyone reading .admin) think the right level of
notice is? (someone commented they find the repeated requests to change FUT to
be distractive in and of themselves... they should be less neccessary now but
because mail and NNTP don't see the force, still somewhat needed? )

That notice is actually technically inaccurate since it says I forced one post
but I ended up deciding to force the whole thread. Suppose it was accurate, is
one post in passing like that (it was a closing remark on a post that was in
context for the thread) the right level? Too much? Too little?

I'm interested in input on that. Can't guarantee that we'll always do it the way
the majority feels but it seems worthy to heed it if we can.



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(...) This is a great addition to the community. It's better than your typical moderation, which kills the discussion entirely. Hopefully people will have an easier time ignoring discussions they don't want to see, because they will be moved to the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp)

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