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Subject: 
eudora thread bug (was: Re: Hey, all you prog rockers!)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general
Followup-To: 
lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Wed, 29 Dec 1999 02:25:40 GMT
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In lugnet.people, Tim Courtney writes:
[...]
BTW - Eudora/Lugnet question.  Of course, the way it threads my posts.  Is
there a way I could either fix Eudora or you could tweak the posting
software so that works?  Does it happen to anyone else's posts?

I recommend either ditching Eudora or asking its author if there is a bugfix.


It seems to me that there's something in the posting software which could
be improved to properly thread my messages (but that's just programming-
illiterate me talking here).

Eudora is sending improper 'References:' headers.  Working backwards from
what it appears to be doing (consistently), it seems to be dropping (or,
more accurately, not adding) the last message ID from the references list.
I'm afraid there's no way to work around that without massively heavy and
voodoo and messy kludgery.  :-(


Since I reply with the datestamp
like:

At 06:45 PM 12/28/1999 , Todd Lehman wrote:

Couldn't it properly read that and thread it under a message, combined with
the information that I'm posting to lugnet.people?

Not reliably, no.  And even if unreliably, extremely difficult in the general
case.


I really don't
understand why this is limited to me and/or Eudora users.  And I REALLY
DON'T want to give up Eudora - I love it and I hate Outlook/Outlook Express.

I'm not sure if it's limited to you in particular or to all Eudora users,
but if it's just you, then it's likely that you're running a buggy version
and other people aren't...  At least that's a reasonable guess.


How does the software currently thread messages?

It looks at the 'References:' and 'Message-ID:' headers of NNTP messages.
That's how NNTP newsreaders are required to thread.


Sorry if I'm a PITA when it comes to this - I know its come up several
times in the past, and would like to see it fixed too.  I've resorted to
using the web interface for some discussion and my .announce posts.  I
still can't find a reply to feature (!) so I have to for announcing.

I recommend writing Eudora's author and complaining to them.  Maybe they have
a bugfix.


Could there be a feature which automatically follows up to the other groups
posted to when there is no specified followup field in .announce?

Well, the requirement of setting the 'Followup-To:' header was specifically
added to cut down on mis-posts to the announce group.  So in a nutshell, no.

   http://www.lugnet.com/announce/?n=80
   http://www.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=459

--Todd



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Hey, all you prog rockers!
 
(...) Ok, I get it now. I just wish I could set up something so X-Real-Life-Name displayed in From in Eudora. I already have a filter that deletes all the X-Real-Life-Name=Tim Courtney mails I get, to eliminate having to hand-delete my own posts. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

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