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    Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Larry Pieniazek
   My subjective observation is that performance is definitely deteriorating.... Here are a couple of tracerts... I have blanked out the first two network addresses, my client is confidential. But with times under 10 ms they may or may not matter much. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Matthew Miller
     Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote: [snip] (...) [snip] (...) In both of these cases, you're having trouble before you even get out of psinet. That makes the rest of the data irrelevant.... (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Todd Lehman
     (...) Pair Networks is in Philadelphia. --Todd (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Todd Lehman wrote: (...) Hey, I ain't a networking kind of guy so if what I posted wasn't too much help, so be it I guess... Seemed like a good idea at the time. (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Matthew Miller
   (...) *grin* hey, 'nuthin wrong with posting. (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Larry Pieniazek
   I can TRY more tracerts... I get around so get a chance to try from a lot of different places. if someone tells me what to look for specifically (pretend you're talking to a manager :-) ) I'll post ones that help determine what the problem is, and (...) (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Matthew Miller
   (...) If I were talking to a manager, I'd say: don't worry, we'll take care of it. *grin* But: IP packets have a property called Time-To-Live. It's a counter, and each time a packet goes through a gateway, it's decremented. (By default, most packets (...) (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Scott Smallbeck
     Tonight everything is running fast again! It has been a week since I have had normal LUGNET NNTP performance but now it seems to be fine. -- Scott Smallbeck scotts@contactics.com (URL) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Todd Lehman
     (...) It's not LUGNET's NNTP performance that you're having touble with. It's some net clog problem somewhere. Maybe multiple problems. --Todd (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Scott Smallbeck
     Sorry, bad choice of words in that last post. I knew that the problem wasn't at your end. -- Scott Smallbeck scotts@contactics.com (URL) Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3804b7b9.795349...net.com... (...) now (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Oh, I've been a manager... but I stopped. Didn't like it and neither did any of the people I was managing. *no idea* why, really. LOL... <snipped excellent explanation> (...) Lemme see if I got it then, in this example the problem lies either (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Matthew Miller
   (...) Yeah, exactly. Most likely one of the routers is overloaded -- if one checks the dns for the gateways at 8 & 9, one finds the phrases "155M" and "622M", which seems like a lot of bandwidth to me. (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Jeremy Sproat
   (...) What tool do you use for that? whois comes up with a blank, and host (1) just says "pos3-1-155M.cr1.JFK...nter.net". Anyway, my packets don't even see that network -- they get stuck somewhere between: 6 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Matthew Miller
   (...) nslookup. It's prettier than 'host', but tells you basically the same thing. I got the 155M out of the hostname. It's nice when people name their routers meaningfully. :) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Jeremy Sproat
     (...) Oof. I shoulda seen that one! :-, What does the 115M mean? 155 megabits per second? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: Sluggish nntp performance —Matthew Miller
     (...) Yeah. It's probably an OC3, which is about 155.52 megabits/second. (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        (canceled) —Jeremy Sproat
   
        GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Jeremy Sproat
   (...) Which GNU package do I get ping and traceroute and host, etc. from? They're not in inetutils; they doesn't seem to be anywhere... Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Roger D. Parks
     (...) Erm... binutils, perhaps? And try the Cygnus distro whilst you're at it.... Cheers, Roger (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Jeremy Sproat
     (...) Checked that, and checked that also. Binutils seems to be primarily compiler tools. Fileutils is basic file management, copying, moving, linking, etc. Textutils is basic text manipulation tools. Inetutils is a decent suite of servers and (...) (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Roger D. Parks
     (...) Well. I've no quick answers today either. <grump> Haven't got Linux moiunted on a box local to me, so I can't check that way either. I'll have a look at the Caldera distro running on my development box at home tonight. You know... the back of (...) (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Roger D. Parks
     go look at www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ They claim to have a ping/tracroute package that runs with/via autoconf. This is source, but they have binary for Red Hat and freeBSD. I'll grab a copy tonight, and with luck and time out from building things <grin> (...) (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Matthew Miller
     (...) I don't think they're GNU. My ping program came from the base linux netkit, and traceroute (originally) from <URL:ftp://ftp.ee.lb...te.tar.Z>. (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Jeremy Sproat
     (...) That worked, thanks! :-, I wonder why these utils were never GNU'd... Oh, well, thanks again. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
    
         Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Matthew Miller
     (...) Yeah, I dunno. Looks to be all BSD license, which is fine with me... (Oooh, let's fan the flames: yet another good reason it's not "GNU/Linux") (25 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
   
        Re: GNU pkg for ping, traceroute, etc. (Was: Sluggish nntp performance) —Don Heyse
   (...) If you're looking for Windows progs I think I got a bunch of this stuff from the "Virtually Unix" site once upon a time. I don't have the URL, but you could search for it. I think my version of traceroute is called hopcount.exe though. Not (...) (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 

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