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Re: i admit i was wrong
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lugnet.admin.general
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Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:13:02 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> writes:
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> > About these voting options, the votes for a more severe restriction should
> > carry over to a less severe restriction if that particular restriction
> > recieves the 2/3 majority votes. For example:
> >
> > 25% vote for removal from lugnet.*
> > 50% vote for removal from lugnet.cad.*
> > 25% vote not to remove JW's privileges at all
> >
> > Now this is an oversimplification of the case, but this is to prove a point
> > and kill a headache on my part by making things a little mroe realistic :)
> >
> > The votes for lugnet.* would be counted as votes for lugnet.cad.* since
> > cad.* is included under lugnet.* and lugnet.cad.* received more
> > votes. This would push the votes for lugnet.cad.* to 75%, thus exceeding
> > the 2/3 majority requirement.
>
> That doesn't follow. The choices aren't mutually exclusive, are they? I
> thought these were separate, independently voted-upon percentages. If so,
> then they can't be combined mathematically as described above. Consider:
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> If you had
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> 95% vote for removal from lugnet.*
> 98% vote for removal from lugnet.cad.*
> 2% vote not to remove JW's privileges at all
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> would you say that pushed the votes for lugnet.cad.* to 193%?
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> With sets and subsets, the only way they could be considered combinable is
> via the 'maximum' function:
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> F(x,y) = x if x >= y
> = y if x <= y
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> So if you had
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> 55% vote for removal from lugnet.*
> 60% vote for removal from lugnet.cad.*
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> then the effect of the upper portion on the lower portion is zero. If you
> had
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> 60% vote for removal from lugnet.*
> 55% vote for removal from lugnet.cad.*
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> then the effect of the upper portion on the lower portion is to raise it an
> additional 5% to 60% by proper subset inclusion.
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> --Todd
I think Tim was envisioning a single multiple-choice vote, i.e. pick a) do
nothing, b) remove from lugnet.cad*, c) remove from lugnet.*. In that case,
those votes for "c" could also be considered votes for "b". If 60% say remove
from lugnet.*, and 10% say remove from lugnet.cad.*, then you have a 70% super-
majority for removing from lugnet.cad.*.
-John Van
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