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Re: A Technic set DB outline
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Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:02:05 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:

Joshua Delahunty <dulcaoin@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu> writes:

In case accuracy WRT TLG is important here, the actual hierarchy looks
like the following (I may never forgive Todd for his invention of the
term "subtheme" :-P)

Eh, whenever did I invent that term?  And what have I done to popularize it?
The weird term I made up for the FLG was "series."  I don't like subtheme
either, unless there is also the concept of supertheme -- as in subcategory
and supercategory.  But I'm not well-versed in taxonomic terms.

'Subtheme' was a term you suggested back in the days when Fibblesnork
was more of a living entity, and you suggested that some terminology be
laid out.  It's the one that took off after that discussion.  I don't
think it was so much a case of "I like 'subtheme,' let's go with it;"
more of a "hey, I've been thinking about this, and what should we call
items that are within Town, or Space themes?  I thought about
'subtheme', but I'm open to futher suggestions."  It took off from
there.

You ended up using "series," which I assumed you were using because as
part of the discussion that ensued from your initial query, I mentioned
at the time that TLG used "series" as a catch-all, and so you went with
that.  It's quite "correct," so I wouldn't call it weird in the least.

Then there were 3-4 more times that I wrote you about your common usage
of "sub-theme" in the group, after which you finally relented and
consciously made the change.

Of course, my memory could EASILY be off on this.  I think that if we
really want to see the change, then you should change the tag on the
reference pages from "Theme:" to "Product Line / Theme:".

-- joshua


Product Programme
      +- Product Line
              +- Product Theme

"Race" is a theme in the "Town System" Product Line which is part of
the "LEGO System" Product Programme (other PP's are DUPLO and
TECHNIC).  Product lines and themes can be variously referred to as
"line" (no product in front) or "series".

The hierarchy comes from TLG documentation that was put out late-80s
early-90s, which very specifically spelled out the entire product
offering at that time.  Lately, there has been further and further
blurring of the idea of Product Line versus Theme, so this may no
longer apply, but please note that "subtheme" has never been, strickly
speaking, correct.

Roit!

--Todd



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(...) I dunno. This comment looks like it took place sometime around Sept. '95, and Deja News finds references to "sub-theme" and "subtheme" as far back as April '95 -- and Deja News doesn't go back much further than that. So I don't think Todd's to (...) (26 years ago, 2-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.database)

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(...) Eh, whenever did I invent that term? And what have I done to popularize it? The weird term I made up for the FLG was "series." I don't like subtheme either, unless there is also the concept of supertheme -- as in subcategory and supercategory. (...) (26 years ago, 1-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.database)

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