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Hello,
A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
away.
I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
so best of luck!
Jeff
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Jeff Elliott wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
> Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site at
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
>
> Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
> quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
> away.
>
> I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
> so best of luck!
>
> Jeff
A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a direct
drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so I
updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have posted
pictures here
http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power setting.
I do not know what the issue is regarding new/old points, I am guessing
that mine may be old points, but I would be surprised if the direct drive
mechanism didn't work on all points.
Chris
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PGP public key available upon request.
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Chris -
You've successfully addressed a problem that I noticed with the switching
toggle tabs on the points - they do start to flex after some time. That made
me nervous too. I never broke a tab, but they did get more pliable and
actually stayed that way to some extent. Your design saves me a lot of time
and trouble as I was just starting to experiment with other implementations of
the direct drive point switch priciple. Nice work!
Great idea to use the 1x4x1 lattice fence. That prompted one of those "why
didn't _I_ think of that?" responses out of me. Plus, I really like the
compact nature or the finished switchbox - it leaves a lot of room for
individualization. I'm going to try out your design tonight and start a longer
term test on it. Maybe I'll cycle the switch every few minutes for a day or so
to see what happens. Motors are cheap these days thanks to Znap clearances at
TRU.
Thanks for the well documented examples on your site,
Ed
In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi writes:
> Jeff Elliott wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
> > Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site at
> >
> > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
> >
> > Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
> > quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
> > away.
> >
> > I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
> > so best of luck!
> >
> > Jeff
>
> A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a direct
> drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so I
> updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have posted
> pictures here
>
> http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
>
> Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power setting.
>
> I do not know what the issue is regarding new/old points, I am guessing
> that mine may be old points, but I would be surprised if the direct drive
> mechanism didn't work on all points.
>
> Chris
>
> --
> PGP public key available upon request.
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Ed,
Thanks for the idea and the praise. I mentioned it on my site, but in case you
missed it the switch fails if it is run a power setting 6. The fence idea solves
one problem but creates another; it is the part that is prone to breaking off.
Chris
Ed McGlynn wrote:
> Chris -
>
> You've successfully addressed a problem that I noticed with the switching
> toggle tabs on the points - they do start to flex after some time. That made
> me nervous too. I never broke a tab, but they did get more pliable and
> actually stayed that way to some extent. Your design saves me a lot of time
> and trouble as I was just starting to experiment with other implementations of
> the direct drive point switch priciple. Nice work!
>
> Great idea to use the 1x4x1 lattice fence. That prompted one of those "why
> didn't _I_ think of that?" responses out of me. Plus, I really like the
> compact nature or the finished switchbox - it leaves a lot of room for
> individualization. I'm going to try out your design tonight and start a longer
> term test on it. Maybe I'll cycle the switch every few minutes for a day or so
> to see what happens. Motors are cheap these days thanks to Znap clearances at
> TRU.
>
> Thanks for the well documented examples on your site,
> Ed
>
> In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi writes:
> > Jeff Elliott wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
> > > Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site at
> > >
> > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
> > >
> > > Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
> > > quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
> > > away.
> > >
> > > I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
> > > so best of luck!
> > >
> > > Jeff
> >
> > A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a direct
> > drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so I
> > updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have posted
> > pictures here
> >
> > http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
> >
> > Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power setting.
> >
> > I do not know what the issue is regarding new/old points, I am guessing
> > that mine may be old points, but I would be surprised if the direct drive
> > mechanism didn't work on all points.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --
> > PGP public key available upon request.
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>
> A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a direct
> drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so I
> updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have posted
> pictures here
Thanks for using one of my ideas.
I hope you'll have a lot of fun with it.
I don't use it due to the lack of space and .... my kids (age 6 & 3 1/2).
They tear my constructions faster down than i can make them :(
>
> http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
>
> Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power setting.
>
>
> Chris
>
> --
regards and play well,
Ludo
> PGP public key available upon request.
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ludo soete wrote:
> >
> > A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a direct
> > drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so I
> > updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have posted
> > pictures here
>
> Thanks for using one of my ideas.
> I hope you'll have a lot of fun with it.
> I don't use it due to the lack of space and .... my kids (age 6 & 3 1/2).
> They tear my constructions faster down than i can make them :(
I have been wondering how I will work that out with my son (7 weeks), but I
have some time before I have to work that out.
Thanks again,
Chris
>
> >
> > http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
> >
> > Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power setting.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --
>
> regards and play well,
> Ludo
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"Ed McGlynn" <ejmcglynn@Juno.com> wrote in message
news:FzHwwH.2A9@lugnet.com...
> Motors are cheap these days thanks to Znap clearances at
> TRU.
I noticed that the ZNAP supplied battery box looks different than the
battery box supplied with the standard Technic battery box. Is there a
difference between the two? Is there a downside to using one battery box vs.
the other?
Bryan
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Christopher Masi wrote:
>
> Jeff Elliott wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
> > Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site at
> >
> > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
> >
> > Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
> > quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
> > away.
> >
> > I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
> > so best of luck!
> >
> > Jeff
>
> A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a direct
> drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so I
> updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have posted
> pictures here
>
> http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
>
> Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power setting.
>
> I do not know what the issue is regarding new/old points, I am guessing
> that mine may be old points, but I would be surprised if the direct drive
> mechanism didn't work on all points.
>
> Chris
Ahhhhh....Sorry, I am experiencing a server outage. This time it is not
just my server; the entire subnet is missing. Actually, this happened
earlier this week. The subnet my server is on is most likely fine.
Earlier this week a computer on another subnet was flooding the router
to the internet.
Sorry,
Chris
P.S. If anyone is interested in the pictures I can email them to you.
Sorry, and thanks for your patients.
> --
> PGP public key available upon request.
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Christopher Masi wrote:
>
> Christopher Masi wrote:
> >
> > Jeff Elliott wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
> > > Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site at
> > >
> > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
> > >
> > > Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
> > > quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
> > > away.
> > >
> > > I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
> > > so best of luck!
> > >
> > > Jeff
> >
> > A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a direct
> > drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so I
> > updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have posted
> > pictures here
> >
> > http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
> >
> > Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power setting.
> >
> > I do not know what the issue is regarding new/old points, I am guessing
> > that mine may be old points, but I would be surprised if the direct drive
> > mechanism didn't work on all points.
> >
> > Chris
>
> Ahhhhh....Sorry, I am experiencing a server outage. This time it is not
> just my server; the entire subnet is missing. Actually, this happened
> earlier this week. The subnet my server is on is most likely fine.
> Earlier this week a computer on another subnet was flooding the router
> to the internet.
>
> Sorry,
> Chris
>
> P.S. If anyone is interested in the pictures I can email them to you.
> Sorry, and thanks for your patients.
>
> > --
> > PGP public key available upon request.
Wow, I am not very sharp sometimes. If my server is down, then you
cannot email me at cmasi@cmasi.chem.tulane.edu, but you can reach me at cmasi@tulane.edu.
Chris
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How about putting them up on brickshelf?
I am terribly interested to see your design!
Build On!
John Matthews
Christopher Masi <cmasi@cmasi.chem.tulane.edu> wrote in message
news:399E104F.345C8F6C@cmasi.chem.tulane.edu...
> Christopher Masi wrote:
> >
> > Jeff Elliott wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
> > > Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site • at
> > >
> > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
> > >
> > > Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
> > > quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
> > > away.
> > >
> > > I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
> > > so best of luck!
> > >
> > > Jeff
> >
> > A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a • direct
> > drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so • I
> > updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have • posted
> > pictures here
> >
> > http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
> >
> > Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power • setting.
> >
> > I do not know what the issue is regarding new/old points, I am guessing
> > that mine may be old points, but I would be surprised if the direct • drive
> > mechanism didn't work on all points.
> >
> > Chris
>
> Ahhhhh....Sorry, I am experiencing a server outage. This time it is not
> just my server; the entire subnet is missing. Actually, this happened
> earlier this week. The subnet my server is on is most likely fine.
> Earlier this week a computer on another subnet was flooding the router
> to the internet.
>
> Sorry,
> Chris
>
> P.S. If anyone is interested in the pictures I can email them to you.
> Sorry, and thanks for your patients.
>
> > --
> > PGP public key available upon request.
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John Matthews wrote:
>
> How about putting them up on brickshelf?
>
> I am terribly interested to see your design!
>
> Build On!
> John Matthews
Sorry, I just tried to sign on to Brickshelf 3 times. Apparently, it
didn't like one of my answers. Maybe it is because I do not have a
Lugnet ID number. The network should be fixed on Monday when everyone
starts complaining to our technical services department.
Chris
>
> Christopher Masi <cmasi@cmasi.chem.tulane.edu> wrote in message
> news:399E104F.345C8F6C@cmasi.chem.tulane.edu...
> > Christopher Masi wrote:
> > >
> > > Jeff Elliott wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > A number of people have asked that I replace the instructions for the
> > > > Automated Points Motor which Matt Bates has featured on his web site • at
> > > >
> > > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/pmotor2.htm
> > > >
> > > > Some of these requests are from waaaay back, I just don't move very
> > > > quickly sometimes :( Anyway, they're back for the time being, so fire
> > > > away.
> > > >
> > > > I should note that some people have had difficulty with this solution,
> > > > so best of luck!
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > >
> > > A while ago Ludo Soete, Ed McGlynn, and others were talking about a • direct
> > > drive automated point mechanism. I was inspired by their discussion, so • I
> > > updated my points. My new design is really their design, but I have • posted
> > > pictures here
> > >
> > > http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/trains/pointsnew/points.htm
> > >
> > > Like the text says, they work great on all but the highest power • setting.
> > >
> > > I do not know what the issue is regarding new/old points, I am guessing
> > > that mine may be old points, but I would be surprised if the direct • drive
> > > mechanism didn't work on all points.
> > >
> > > Chris
> >
> > Ahhhhh....Sorry, I am experiencing a server outage. This time it is not
> > just my server; the entire subnet is missing. Actually, this happened
> > earlier this week. The subnet my server is on is most likely fine.
> > Earlier this week a computer on another subnet was flooding the router
> > to the internet.
> >
> > Sorry,
> > Chris
> >
> > P.S. If anyone is interested in the pictures I can email them to you.
> > Sorry, and thanks for your patients.
> >
> > > --
> > > PGP public key available upon request.
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In lugnet.trains, Bryan Kinkel writes:
> "Ed McGlynn" <ejmcglynn@Juno.com> wrote in message
> news:FzHwwH.2A9@lugnet.com...
> > Motors are cheap these days thanks to Znap clearances at
> > TRU.
>
> I noticed that the ZNAP supplied battery box looks different than the
> battery box supplied with the standard Technic battery box. Is there a
> difference between the two? Is there a downside to using one battery box vs.
> the other?
>
> Bryan
Bryan -
In some Znap sets, the 9v motor is powered by a black 9v battery box - one
cell battery in a small black studded box. Other sets (I don't recall the
numbers off hand) use the 6 cell 9v battery box with latching polarized
current buttons. That is, there's two buttons on it. The box is the same as
the Technic battery boxes that take 6 1.5v batteries, it's just in black with
a yellow bottom.
The two button, 6 cell box will act as an electrical brake on the newer
Technic motors. When the motor is connected to the terminals of this battery
box, the motor axle will not spin or coast freely. It's electrically braked
from rotating in either direction. When you press one of the directional
buttons on the battery box, the motor will spin in the appropriate direction
while the button is momentarily pressed, and will immediately stop when the
button is released - no coast. The motor is driven in a stepped and discrete
fashion - on/off. This is the same in either direction. In addition, you can
engage the momentary buttons into a fixed on position, and the motor will
receive current until the opposing button is pressed. That will release the
other button and stop the motor immediately. If you press the buttons just
right, you can make the motors coast to a stop when you release them, but they
seem to be eingineered to be electrically braked. I use these boxes for
remote switches and uncouplers, as they allow me to engage devices on then off
and reverse the direction of the motor at will.
The single cell 9v battery box provides a single on/off button that does not
reverse the polarity of the voltage going to the motor. I use these boxes
when space is limited, and usualyy in conjunction with a 5120 polarity switch,
or else in an application where a songle motorl direction is desired.
With all that said, there's no difference in the 6x1.5v battery boxes except
color. The 1x9v battery box is the same as the earlier white ones. Each has
different applications.
Ed
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