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Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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Hi Folks!

Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show in
Leeuwarden last weekend.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

Additional it seemed to have been a show of a big variaty of 12V train stuff
from the 80ies.

Leg Godt!

Ben



P.s.: I have onece promised: if anybody should overstep my 4.10 m brige, I
would make up at least a 8m bridge....
I fear there is work waiting for me at home. ;-)


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show in
Leeuwarden last weekend.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

That's pretty big... is the 5.15m measurement the span?  That is, is it
measured from inside the footings?

Also, what are the black "cables" made from- Technic parts?  Lego strings?
I didn't see any pics close enough to tell.

In any case, I'll pass this along to Wayne Hussey... he built a bridge with
an 18 foot (or so) span, though it did use non-Lego strings for cables.

--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
www.pnltc.org


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Tony Hafner writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show • in
Leeuwarden last weekend.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

That's pretty big... is the 5.15m measurement the span?  That is, is it
measured from inside the footings?

Also, what are the black "cables" made from- Technic parts?  Lego strings?
I didn't see any pics close enough to tell.

In any case, I'll pass this along to Wayne Hussey... he built a bridge with
an 18 foot (or so) span, though it did use non-Lego strings for cables.

Also used non-lego weights in the base.

Damn, I can't get to Brickshelf - I'll have to check the pics later 8?(

But for a totally 100% pure Lego bridge, just check here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3057 8?) Span is 3.6m (about
11'10"). Should be complete by Christmas.

ROSCO (real men build arch bridges!)


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Tony Hafner writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show • in
Leeuwarden last weekend.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

That's pretty big... is the 5.15m measurement the span?  That is, is it
measured from inside the footings?

Hmmm. Difficult to tell, but at first glance it doesn't look like 5m between
the footings - they may have included the approaches as well. But it's still
pretty impressive.

Also, what are the black "cables" made from- Technic parts?  Lego strings?
I didn't see any pics close enough to tell.

It looks like all Lego - you can view some similar ones here
http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~rbeneke/lego/bridges/bridges.html

ROSCO


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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Reinhard \"Ben\" Beneke wrote:

Hi Folks!

Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show in
Leeuwarden last weekend.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

Additional it seemed to have been a show of a big variaty of 12V train stuff
from the 80ies.

Yoiks... That's a lot of 7740s there....

Nice bridge.

Frank


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:31:32 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.trains, Tony Hafner writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show • in
Leeuwarden last weekend.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

That's pretty big... is the 5.15m measurement the span?  That is, is it
measured from inside the footings?

Hmmm. Difficult to tell, but at first glance it doesn't look like 5m between
the footings - they may have included the approaches as well. But it's still
pretty impressive.

No, I have been told the 5 meters are from foundation to foundation of the main
bow. I think the bridge is so far in the background, that it appears smaller as
it in fact is.

Also, what are the black "cables" made from- Technic parts?

Right, same as my bridge: classic technic beams....

It looks like all Lego - you can view some similar ones here
http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~rbeneke/lego/bridges/bridges.html

That has been my 4.10 meters attempt (very successful in fact. it could bear 5
kg in the middle of the bridge!

Ben

I have done some drawings yesterday for a 8.5 meters bridge.....
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87407
(the 7740 on it is in the fitting size!)


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:36:24 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.trains, Tony Hafner writes:


But for a totally 100% pure Lego bridge, just check here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3057 8?) Span is 3.6m (about
11'10"). Should be complete by Christmas.

I watched the growing bridge since some weeks: of course such a design is by
far more impressing! Wow!

I think you should try to find a fitting theme in the
www.creativity-contest.net for that masterpiece of technic beam use.

ROSCO (real men build arch bridges!)

I do agree 100%. These are the only long bridges without torque forces in the
footings (= you need no ballast etc...)

Leg Godt!

Ben


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train • show
in
Leeuwarden last weekend.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

That's pretty big... is the 5.15m measurement the span?  That is, is it
measured from inside the footings?

Also, what are the black "cables" made from- Technic parts?  Lego • strings?
I didn't see any pics close enough to tell.

In any case, I'll pass this along to Wayne Hussey... he built a bridge • with
an 18 foot (or so) span, though it did use non-Lego strings for cables.

Also used non-lego weights in the base.

Damn, I can't get to Brickshelf - I'll have to check the pics later 8?(

But for a totally 100% pure Lego bridge, just check here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3057 8?) Span is 3.6m • (about
11'10"). Should be complete by Christmas.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=42242

It is pure lego but the span is not that wide.

Not my MOC

S.


ROSCO (real men build arch bridges!)


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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This one just ends on the top and goes back down?
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87392

I like the streets - only a few civilian buildings.

S.

Reinhard "Ben" Beneke <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> wrote in message
news:GnILB2.DyE@lugnet.com...

Hi Folks!

Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train • show in
Leeuwarden last weekend.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

Additional it seemed to have been a show of a big variaty of 12V train • stuff
from the 80ies.

Leg Godt!

Ben



P.s.: I have onece promised: if anybody should overstep my 4.10 m brige, I
would make up at least a 8m bridge....
I fear there is work waiting for me at home. ;-)


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show
in Leeuwarden last weekend.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607


I spent some time comparing these two pictures:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87390  and
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382

It looks like each triangle in the yellow truss is about 20 studs long -
each 7740 car is built on a 28 stud train base.  Compare the length of each
yellow truss triangle with the arch bridge triangles, they look to be about
2.5 times as long - 50 studs.  Ten triangles on the arch at 50 studs each is
500 studs, or 10.4 grey baseplates.  For those of use who don't count by
tens, that is 156.25 inches, or just a shade under 4 meters for those of you
who *do* count by tens.  <grin>

So the arch itself is around 4 meters long, the yellow truss sections on
each end bring the length up to 5.15 meters.

So the single span itself isn't quite 5.15 m, it's "only" 4 m - still a VERY
impressive piece of LEGO engineering!!

And yea, I'm a huge geek to be spending time analyzing these pictures, but
most of you already knew that!  ;-)

JohnG, GMLTC


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:

I think you should try to find a fitting theme in the
www.creativity-contest.net for that masterpiece of technic beam use.

I was thinking about it, first off in the Town "The Reconstruction" section,
but it's not really a reconstruction. Maybe Model Team "Timeless Elegance"
section? Anyway, I mightn't have time to finish it & take some decent shots
brfore I leave for Christmas break. 8?( But I'll try. 8?)

ROSCO


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.trains, Tony Hafner writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show • in
Leeuwarden last weekend.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8607

That's pretty big... is the 5.15m measurement the span?  That is, is it
measured from inside the footings?

Also, what are the black "cables" made from- Technic parts?  Lego strings?
I didn't see any pics close enough to tell.

In any case, I'll pass this along to Wayne Hussey... he built a bridge with
an 18 foot (or so) span, though it did use non-Lego strings for cables.

Also used non-lego weights in the base.

Damn, I can't get to Brickshelf - I'll have to check the pics later 8?(

But for a totally 100% pure Lego bridge, just check here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3057 8?) Span is 3.6m (about
11'10"). Should be complete by Christmas.

ROSCO (real men build arch bridges!)

Excellent work!  All these people making bridges and all I can do here in
this miserable room I'm in is look?!?!  My instinct says I'd better start
working on that next generation of suspension very soon.  And it will be
better than this measley 2m thing:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=48087

Humm... I believe there is supposed to be a BricksWest fest or something
close to home in 2K+2?

Adrian Egli


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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Anyone notice the center is sagging?
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87377

Josh


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Josh Baakko writes:
Anyone notice the center is sagging?
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87377

Might just be an obstacle illusion...

-John


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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Where in the H did they get so many 7740 cars?!?

This is my favorite Lego train ever!


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, John Gerlach writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
Ben(ny) Efde and Marco (from Leeuwarden/NL) have done a new record of a
(100% pure) Lego®-train bridge which they have presented at their train show
in Leeuwarden last weekend.

I spent some time comparing these two pictures:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87390  and
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382

It looks like each triangle in the yellow truss is about 20 studs long -
each 7740 car is built on a 28 stud train base.

3 3/4 cars = 3.75x32 Studs (couplings included) = 5 triangles = 120 Studs
That means each triangle is 24 studs long...

Compare the length of each
yellow truss triangle with the arch bridge triangles, they look to be about
2.5 times as long - 50 studs.

the 2.5 are estimated and the 50 studs are in fact more than 60...

Ten triangles on the arch at 50 studs each is
500 studs, or 10.4 grey baseplates.  For those of use who don't count by
tens, that is 156.25 inches, or just a shade under 4 meters for those of you
who *do* count by tens.  <grin>
So the arch itself is around 4 meters long, the yellow truss sections on
each end bring the length up to 5.15 meters.

Each yellow part is 96 cm as demonstrated above: 5.15 minus 2x0.96 =?3,23 m?
That is impossible. So the 5.15 cannot include both yellow bridges, or the bow
would become very small....


So the single span itself isn't quite 5.15 m, it's "only" 4 m - still a VERY
impressive piece of LEGO engineering!!

It is in fact 5.15, wich can be recognised if you count the monorail track
pieces: there are 20 sections of monorail: each is 32 studs long. Makes 640
studs total length which is 5.12 meters.

And yea, I'm a huge geek to be spending time analyzing these pictures, but
most of you already knew that!  ;-)

You really bluffed me for a few days. I was not too sure about the real length,
till a friend of mine told about the length of the monorail track pieces (a
part which I never owned).

Kind regards,

Ben


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
In lugnet.trains, John Gerlach writes:

So the single span itself isn't quite 5.15 m, it's "only" 4 m - still a VERY
impressive piece of LEGO engineering!!

It is in fact 5.15, wich can be recognised if you count the monorail track
pieces: there are 20 sections of monorail: each is 32 studs long. Makes 640
studs total length which is 5.12 meters.

Well, just being picky, but it looks to me like there's only about 19 monorail
sections *between* the footings, but whats 32 studs between friends? 8?)

ROSCO


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
In lugnet.trains, John Gerlach writes:

So the single span itself isn't quite 5.15 m, it's "only" 4 m - still a VERY
impressive piece of LEGO engineering!!

It is in fact 5.15, wich can be recognised if you count the monorail track
pieces: there are 20 sections of monorail: each is 32 studs long. Makes 640
studs total length which is 5.12 meters.

Well, just being picky, but it looks to me like there's only about 19 monorail
sections *between* the footings, but whats 32 studs between friends? 8?)

You are right: there are "only" 19 full sections on the bridge, but of course
there are two times 50% of a section too (easily to see on the left and since
the bridge is symmetric it has to be on the right too).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
Makes 20 in total and still 640 studs...

studs-counting-Ben


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Re: Have you seen these pictures? Bridge of 5.15 m length....
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
In lugnet.trains, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
In lugnet.trains, John Gerlach writes:

So the single span itself isn't quite 5.15 m, it's "only" 4 m - still a VERY
impressive piece of LEGO engineering!!

It is in fact 5.15, wich can be recognised if you count the monorail track
pieces: there are 20 sections of monorail: each is 32 studs long. Makes 640
studs total length which is 5.12 meters.

Well, just being picky, but it looks to me like there's only about 19 monorail
sections *between* the footings, but whats 32 studs between friends? 8?)

You are right: there are "only" 19 full sections on the bridge, but of course
there are two times 50% of a section too

To the *centre* of the footings, yes. But not *between* the footings. I'm
not actually sure where the span of various bridges is measured, but I
thought in such a bridge it would be the distance between nearest
extremities of the footings. Anyone know?

(easily to see on the left and since
the bridge is symmetric it has to be on the right too).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=87382
Makes 20 in total and still 640 studs...

studs-counting-Ben

Nit-picky-ROSCO


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