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    Bionicle going away? —Tobbe Arnesson
   Hi! First of all, I did not post this into lugnet.technic.bionicle since I thought Technic dudes would like it better :) I went to my local LEGO source today and they have a pretty big sale on the Bionicle sets. Are LEGO dumping them away (silent (...) (23 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: Bionicle going away? —Lee Nicholls
     (...) Bionicle's. My local TRU had a offer on them a while back. I think it was something like buy two get one free, but there was a whole isle end full of them for weeks. I don't know if this is because LEGO thought 'every kid(or AFOL) will want (...) (23 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Andrew Eade
     (...) I'd appretiate it if you would NOT bash such a fine line. Maybe you dont like it, but its no reason to revel in others misfortunes....I happen to find them among the most inovative lines Lego has released many of the unique parts form the (...) (23 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Richard Marchetti
      (...) First, what began this thread are just facts and opinionated interpretation of those facts. Many people think that TLC's expensive Bionickle line was a HUGE mistake (I happen to be one of them, BTW). You obviously have a different opinion. (...) (23 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Nick Cameron
      (...) I heard that Bionicle was quite popular in Germany. We still have to see how they sell in the US. Kids in the US will buy anything in a shiny container. NICK (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Andrew Eade
      I wish to make a point here: 1)The Ball n Socket Joints Featured since the Slizer/Throwbot line came out are among the most inovative parts added to teh Lego Line PERIOD. Its a simple thing that lego is Using in many newer Technic Sets! 2)80% of (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
     (...) I think the main reason Tobbe (and others, including me) would like to see the Bionicle line disappear is because there is a strong feeling that this line (and the Slizer/RoboRider lines) is taking money and efforts from the development of the (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Andrew Eade
      Philisteines.... Besides, most children I know, rip apart Technic sets morte than Legobricks, its a little over compley. Bionicle and other Technic Bots are classified Technic for their joint and brace parts, its all made to merge with Technic, not (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
      (...) I didn't get that part... must be my english :( (...) Actually, I never got into action figures. (...) line will not harm the Technic line as it seems to now. I realize that the Bionicle sets, as well as the Bionicle web sight, web game, card (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Paul Gardosik
      (...) It ain't your english. I live in the US and I don't have any idea what that's supposed to mean. Any way, Bionicle sets have alot of technic peaces, and no system pieces (pohatus' rock doesn't count). Lego is not going to waste money creating a (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Steve Lane
      (...) We say split the Technic and Bionicle into two all the time, but we never do anything about it. Who do we contact who can actually affect the changes? It's not actually that big a problem for me as I have 'Technic only, no sub-groups' as a (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
      (...) Well, I think Todd is the only one that can do that. Presumably he reads the posts that have 'Todd' in them so I assume he read the relevant posts (I wrote one or two posts with that request with 'Todd' in them). (...) I think that if Todd has (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Frank Filz
      (...) Seeing as Bionicle is clearly part of Technic according to TLC (after all, my Bionicle sets say "Technic" on them), it would be obvious to me that .bionicle will remain under .technic. Why? Because Todd has repeatedly indicated that he (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Steve Lane
       (...) I think if the English dictionary can change in accordance with what it's user's do, then so should Lugnet. Steve (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Kyle Beatty
      (...) Seems sensical. (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Ray Kremer
      Hmph. More of this "Bionicle is not Technic" resentment. Look, Lego wasn't about to start an entire new line for the Throwbots, Roboriders, and Bionicle, and they're a lot closer to being Technic than they are to being System (or whatever the heck (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
      In lugnet.technic, Ray Kremer writes: <snip> (...) That's an impressive deduction given the information you have about me. I can only hope to reach such powers of reasoning some day, I'm sure the world would then seem much simpler. [1] <no snip!> (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Ray Kremer
      (...) I meant that it sucks for you that you can't get over the fact that Lego put Bionicle under the Technic name where it doesn't belong. If Bionicle weren't called Technic you'd probably shug it off and say "go have fun" to those of us who like (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Scott P. Costello
     I just picked up my first bionicle set last weekend and I gotta say, I really like it. I was a bit cynical after the average throwbots sets, and the poor roboriders sets; but these sets have redemed the line. I fully understand why our friends of (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Jonathan Lill
     (...) I have to agree. I picked up a bionicle this weekend and was pleasantly surprised. Compared to throwbots and roboriders I think it is a step forward. For me, the main strength of the line is that you can build an action figure that has the (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —John Hansen
     (...) [snip] (...) [snip] I also just picked up my first Bionicle sets recently. I purchased 4 of the Toa. I like the new elements introduced in this line. The feet pieces are much nicer than the throwbot feet. The torso gearbox looks like it can be (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Michael Edwards
      I agree with John here. I should be replying to these posts as i have some of the answers that some of you are questioning about, like: will Bionicle be around next year ? = Yes and bigger and better You could have alook at this picture of my (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Wayne R. Hussey
      (...) Looks Great! Your collection is most impressive and the display is awsome! I'd like to know how you went about gathering the many colors. In particular, where do the Vahi and Infected come from? I am especially impressed by your "interactive" (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Steve Bliss
      (...) The missing element is 'Technic Function'. If Bionicle sets are like the Slizers, the only function they have is a wheel (small gear) that you turn to make the head go up and down. Not exactly high-function, y'know? Steve (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Jonathan Lill
      (...) But previous technic sets at similar price points are equally low in function. Look at all the mini technic sets that fall between three and five dollars. Most are equipped with one function ( a wheel-driven propellar for example). Or look at (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Tony Priestman
      On Wed, 30 May 2001, Jonathan LILL (<GE62ss.K6K@lugnet.com>) wrote at 21:10:04 (...) And I didn't buy those either. :-) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Ray Kremer
       (...) Neither do I. But the Throwbots/RoboRiders/Bionicle have something the other <$10 technic sets do not - a coolness factor. Obviously not everyone has a soft spot for action figures or robotic-looking things. But I do. And three years ago when (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Andy Verner
      (...) Yes, but did you deny their Technic-ness? -Andrusi && (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Tomas Clark
      (...) For that matter, several of the Rahi sets coming out later this year do have treads and shock absorbers. The frames of the larger Rahi sets are made mostly from square Technic beams, rounded Technic beams, and Technic plates. They're not as (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
     (...) <set:7191> has: numerous technic gears: 8t, 16t, 24t, 12t beveled technic cross axles: in various lengths and colors technic friction pegs (including #3 friction peg) technic bushings (both regular and 1/2 wide) technic catches plus many many (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —John Hansen
     (...) I'm wondering whether you would argue that the UCS Tie Fighter was not Technic if it had been released as a Technic set. A Technic set contains Technic elements and is released under the Technic name by TLC. Bionicle sets fall in this (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
      (...) I think it's obvious that it's a 'Model Team' set by nature. I have only 3 Model Team sets but I got the impression that all of them contain at least some Technic elements and have some functions. What differentiates this line from the Technic (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Andy Verner
      (...) Please, oh please, tell me that the Technic Pit Droid is an exception. (...) Which, of course, is why this whole argument is completely pointless and everyone who posted in this thread is insane (especially me). Not that there's anything wrong (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
      (...) Oh yeah, thank you for reminding me! I actually don't have the pit droid, so I really can't comment on it, but it does seem simpler. (...) I'll add my name under the 'insane' category, thank you for pointing out the pointlessness... :-) - (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Andy Verner
      (...) Function: He has a "storage mode" similar to the battle droid, except it looks nothing like the storage mode of the pit droid from the movie. When you push his nose in, he supposedly springs out into position like the one Jar Jar Binks (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Steve Lane
     (...) There's a simple test, has it got a transparent windscreen, Yes!! then it can't possibly be Technic. Also Technic sets are always built in a skeletal framework style, while the UCS Tie Fighter is a solid form. I thougt we'd agreed Bionicle (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Simon Bennett
      (...) Despite being keen for Lego to keep Technic 'traditional' and basically agreeing with you, I can't let you get away with this test. Technic Universal set 8020 has a transparent windscreen and I think it was one of the best value universals (...) (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Fredrik Glöckner
       (...) Yeah, it's a cool set! I like the use of technic functions in small vehicles. There aren't that many technic functions available in the set, but it's still an interesting package. Fredrik (23 years ago, 31-May-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Steve Lane
      (...) Must be the exception that proves the rule :-( Grumble, grumble. Only joking :-) Steve (23 years ago, 1-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Ray Kremer
      (...) We have agreed on that, several times, but certain parties want to make sure nobody forgets it. Here are the issues as I see them. Should the Techbots (Slizer, Roboriders, Bionicle) be in Lugnet's technic section? Yes, because that's where (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Andy Verner
     (...) In other words, almost every Technic Formula 1 racer ever released (not sure whether this includes the Silver Champion) is not actually a Technic set? (...) Well, the main problem with that is that when you get right down to it, nobody really (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Kyle Beatty
     <snip> (...) I submit in evidence: (URL) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
     (...) But the question is still open for the rest of them... - David (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Steve Lane
     (...) I could write Technic across my butt! it still wouldn't be Technic though. Technic in name only! Steve (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Kyle Beatty
      (...) Oh, I don't know about that. If your butt came out of a press in Billund, it could very well reflect the spirit of Technic. (Technicicity?) But of course, it was LEGO who wrote 'Technic' across the lid-that-is-a-wheel. It's possible to (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: Bionicle going away? —Matthew Gerber
      (...) Ooh! Ooh! That's my favorite Police album! Matt (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —David Arnon
     (...) I don't know about you, but (t) at least in my case the main point of my butt is it's functions and not it's looks or anything else, so I guess it is 'Technic' in spirit after all! :-) - David (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Andy Lynch
      Well, thanks for making me laugh out loud in my cubicle at work... :-) -Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Arnon" <arnon@NOSPAMsilicon-value.com> To: <lugnet.technic@lugnet.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:20 PM Subject: Re: (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: Bionicle going away? —Andy Verner
     (...) O.o I must be a Technic set--my main point has to be my functions, 'cause it sure ain't my looks... -Andrusi && (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: Bionicle going away? —Tobbe Arnesson
     I'm starting to regret my first post since it's kills a lot of the spirit in Lugnet being the friendliest place on the Internet and all. But I guess it's good to clean out the air a little now and then. /Tobbe (URL) (23 years ago, 1-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: Bionicle going away? —Selçuk Göre
    (...) I hope so. However, collecting them back to melt and transform them into real Lego bricks could be much preferable rather than dumping them away..:-) Selçuk (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
 

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