| | | | | Does anyone out there know what the oldest lego technic piece is that is still
in use? IE a u-joint, axle, pin etc.
| | | | | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.technic, Vineet Honkan wrote:
> Does anyone out there know what the oldest lego technic piece is that is still
> in use? IE a u-joint, axle, pin etc.
OK, I am not a Technic expert, but I do know about the European gear sets that
were produced starting in 1970 had axle pieces that are compatible with Technic
today. The #800, #801 and #802 sets were the first of these. I was surprised
to not find an inventory of these in Peeron DB. Go check out the instructions
for #802 in Brickshelf to see the parts they have.
Gary Istok
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"vineethonkan" <vineethonkan@yahoo.com> writes:
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> Does anyone out there know what the oldest lego technic piece is that is still
> in use? IE a u-joint, axle, pin etc.
some of the axles existed even before Technic (IIRC 4 6 8 12)
for the big colored pre-technic gears.
They changed from uncolored to black when technic was introduced,
and probably the material was changed as well.
Jürgen
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| On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:26:18 GMT, Juergen Stuber <juergen@jstuber.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> "vineethonkan" <vineethonkan@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > Does anyone out there know what the oldest lego technic piece is that is
> > still
> > in use? IE a u-joint, axle, pin etc.
>
> some of the axles existed even before Technic (IIRC 4 6 8 12)
> for the big colored pre-technic gears.
> They changed from uncolored to black when technic was introduced,
> and probably the material was changed as well.
>
> Jürgen
From my cruddy web-cam:
Original bushing
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ffaat/stuff/picture001.jpg
Original version of the "technic beam" (brick?):
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ffaat/stuff/picture002.jpg
Original axle (seems translucent, but it could be age):
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ffaat/stuff/picture001.jpg
Original u-joint:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ffaat/stuff/picture001.jpg
All of these came from the 812-1 I still have parts for:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/inv/sets/812-1?withpics=yes
-Rob A>
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > All of these came from the 812-1 I still have parts for:
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/inv/sets/812-1?withpics=yes
Wow! Those kids on the box are really not having much
fun are they?
<http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/812-1?showpic=1390>
I wonder where they are now, or if they are lamenting
the passing of their old style gears into the newer
fine-pitch teeth :-)
Imagine the uproar of changing the basic brick with
holes into the studded beam. Heresy!
Ralph
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Ralph Hempel <rhempel@bmts.com> writes:
> Wow! Those kids on the box are really not having much
> fun are they?
>
> <http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/812-1?showpic=1390>
It is probably because pre-technic Lego constructions
fall apart as soon as you apply a little force.
They'd probably rather play with Fischer Technik,
that was the stuff to do serious technical constructions
at the time.
> Imagine the uproar of changing the basic brick with
> holes into the studded beam. Heresy!
No, Lego Technic was very much welcomed, I even postponed
my dark age somewhat due to its introduction.
Jürgen
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| Juergen Stuber wrote:
> Ralph Hempel <rhempel@bmts.com> writes:
>
> > Wow! Those kids on the box are really not having much
> > fun are they?
> >
> > <http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/812-1?showpic=1390>
>
>
> It is probably because pre-technic Lego constructions
> fall apart as soon as you apply a little force.
>
> They'd probably rather play with Fischer Technik,
> that was the stuff to do serious technical constructions
> at the time.
I still have all my old Fischer Technik stuff, and I honestly
played with it until about 1998 when Mindstorms came out.
I think it was one of the best construction systems
out there, and when I went to Germany in the fall I was
amazed at how far it had progressed.
Still, I'm liking LEGO much better now because you can
make smaller creations, but Fischer Technik really
locked together very well.
I'm probably going to get shot for this, but I think ZNAP
was ahead of its time, and that it might be resurrected as
a building system for bigger creations....
We'll have to wait and see.
Ralph
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In lugnet.technic, Ralph Hempel wrote:
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Im probably going to get shot for this, but I think ZNAP
was ahead of its time, and that it might be resurrected as
a building system for bigger creations....
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Like this?
ROSCO
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.technic, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.technic, Ralph Hempel wrote:
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Im probably going to get shot for this, but I think ZNAP
was ahead of its time, and that it might be resurrected as
a building system for bigger creations....
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Like this?
ROSCO
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I prefer this one:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=11162
the other one shows me. I prefer to show just my work.
I can add to the discussion about the oldest Technic piece still in
production:
The axles.
Assuming you arent counting the improved versions of the pre-Technic
U-joint:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=9244a
or bushing:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=bushpw1 that are being made
today.
The first Technic brick (other than the 2x4 shown earlier) was hidden in a
couple models (holding the milky white axles):
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=3700b But, it was never released
into a Technic set.
Of course, that reminds me of this piece (that was on the ends of those
milky-white axles) which is pretty much unchanged from 30 years ago:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=3482
My reference for the axle, bushing, brick, wheel (and tire) was one of my
earliest sets:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/491_1
Wayne Hussey
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.technic, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.technic, Ralph Hempel wrote:
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Im probably going to get shot for this, but I think ZNAP
was ahead of its time, and that it might be resurrected as
a building system for bigger creations....
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Well said.. ZNAP scales up much easier than traditional LEGO System. The
connectors are stronger for larger items (and bruised fingers trying to get them
apart sometimes).
Nice work Ross !
Ray
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.technic, Ray Sanders wrote:
Well, it may have been my work finding it, but the MOC itself is not. As Wayne
has said, it is HIS work, my collection of znap would make a bridge about as
long as a muons lifetime...
ROSCO
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| I still use Fischertechnik parts occasionally. In terms of there robotics
(this will get me shot too...) and pneumatics stuff - they are far in
advance of Lego - but for actually gearing and wheels Lego Technic does
still come tops for me.
Having seen some of the very large Mecha (like Eric Sophie's creations) -
it is possible to build big - you just need more patience, and a lot of
Lego.
What I would love to see with Technic - is a system of large flat panels,
so if I was to build a frame using beams (studless or not), I could use
pins to attach the large panels to them. The panels would of course be
studless. I have used baseplates for it - but I feel proper panels would
give a better overall effect.
Orion
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On Fri, 25 March, 2005 8:39 pm, Ralph Hempel said:
> I still have all my old Fischer Technik stuff, and I honestly
> played with it until about 1998 when Mindstorms came out. <snip>
> I'm probably going to get shot for this, but I think ZNAP
> was ahead of its time, and that it might be resurrected as
> a building system for bigger creations....
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Rob Antonishen <rob.antonishen@gmail.com> writes:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:26:18 GMT, Juergen Stuber <juergen@jstuber.net> wrote:
> Original bushing
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ffaat/stuff/picture001.jpg
This is the second, good type of pre-technic bushing,
there is an older type that is generally too loose.
> Original version of the "technic beam" (brick?):
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ffaat/stuff/picture002.jpg
This is pre-technic.
> Original axle (seems translucent, but it could be age):
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ffaat/stuff/picture003.jpg
No, this is normal, I think it is just the uncolored plastic.
Jürgen
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