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I just found this fire truck on Brickshelf.
There are strange pieces on it but it looks very accurate.
There are more pictures of this model on
Brickshelf
But:
At the LowLug forum someone posted an article about
Megabloks. I was in search for it but didn’t found it. But I just found the
Megabloks website. So it definately isn’t LEGO .....
I wonder why LEGO doesn’t bring out such models. They’re better than the current
LEGOs assortment.
Dennis Bosman
LEGO Trucks & Heavy Equipment
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In lugnet.technic, Dennis Bosman wrote:
> I just found this fire truck on Brickshelf.
>
> <<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/danomac24681/firetrucks/mb-fire006.jpg>>
>
> There are strange pieces on it but it looks very accurate.
It sure does. If it's not the MegaBloks one, it was certainly inspired by it.
> But:
>
> At the <http://www.lowlug.nl LowLug forum> someone posted an article about
> Megabloks. I was in search for it but didn't found it. But I just found the
> <http://www.megabloks.com/eng/products/description.php?iID=178&subCat=1#
> Megabloks website>. So it definately isn't LEGO .....
>
> I wonder why LEGO doesn't bring out such models.
Because LEGO thinks that fire trucks should look like race cars:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8454
Which is frustrating, considering that they do know how to realistically model
construction equipment:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8438 (Crane Truck)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8455 (Backhoe)
Oh well... there's always next year. :)
Allan B.
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In lugnet.technic, Allan Bedford wrote:
> In lugnet.technic, Dennis Bosman wrote:
> > I just found this fire truck on Brickshelf.
> >
> > <<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/danomac24681/firetrucks/mb-fire006.jpg>>
> >
> > There are strange pieces on it but it looks very accurate.
>
> It sure does. If it's not the MegaBloks one, it was certainly inspired by it.
It is MegaBloks
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/danomac24681/firetrucks/9735-ins.jpg
>
> > But:
> >
> > At the <http://www.lowlug.nl LowLug forum> someone posted an article about
> > Megabloks. I was in search for it but didn't found it. But I just found the
> > <http://www.megabloks.com/eng/products/description.php?iID=178&subCat=1#
> > Megabloks website>. So it definately isn't LEGO .....
> >
> > I wonder why LEGO doesn't bring out such models.
Yeah, that would be nice...
>
> Because LEGO thinks that fire trucks should look like race cars:
>
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8454
>
> Which is frustrating, considering that they do know how to realistically model
> construction equipment:
>
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8438 (Crane Truck)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8455 (Backhoe)
>
> Oh well... there's always next year. :)
>
> Allan B.
Kim Andersen
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"Allan Bedford" <ExpertBuilder-DELETE-TO-REPLY@apotome.com> wrote in message
news:Hqz22E.14GA@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.technic, Dennis Bosman wrote:
> > I just found this fire truck on Brickshelf.
> >
> >
<<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/danomac24681/firetrucks/mb-fire006.jpg>>
> >
> > There are strange pieces on it but it looks very accurate.
>
> It sure does. If it's not the MegaBloks one, it was certainly inspired by • it.
>
> > But:
> >
> > At the <http://www.lowlug.nl LowLug forum> someone posted an article • about
> > Megabloks. I was in search for it but didn't found it. But I just found • the
> > <http://www.megabloks.com/eng/products/description.php?iID=178&subCat=1#
> > Megabloks website>. So it definately isn't LEGO .....
> >
> > I wonder why LEGO doesn't bring out such models.
>
> Because LEGO thinks that fire trucks should look like race cars:
>
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8454
>
> Which is frustrating, considering that they do know how to realistically • model
> construction equipment:
>
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8438 (Crane Truck)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8455 (Backhoe)
>
> Oh well... there's always next year. :)
>
> Allan B.
Hello
Lego does make some good models, but then they make things like the "Fire
Truck" and "Tow Truck" (http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8462). I think Lego
should hire people off street (or internet) to design models. If given
enough time I could build a better fire truck.
Bye
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hi
"Jonathan MacIntyre" <jonwally2002@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:Hr7xHI.3p6@lugnet.com...
> Lego does make some good models, but then they make things like the "Fire
> Truck" and "Tow Truck" (http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8462). I think Lego
> should hire people off street (or internet) to design models. If given
> enough time I could build a better fire truck.
then do it :)))
i think there is finite amount of models which can be buid
i'm not saying nothing new will appear
but if you track out technic history you will see few models
which are redesigned from time to time
models should be good looking AND good working
they sould be interesting and entertaining
and what fulfill it?
supercars, back hoes, bulldozers etc
when ppl from TLC design new bricks
there is always place for next version of
these ideas
but we cannot have new supercar every year
so sometimes we have weak models
just to wait for these excelent :)))
in case of fire truck from dennis post
we can see there good looking "bricks" which are ladder
but noting more than ladder
i suspect nothink more can be done from this ladder
but the whole issue is to design universal pieces
that's why there is no ladder in any lego technic or lego model team models
i know someone could point shovels as an opposite arguments...
br
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In lugnet.technic, Paul Kleniewski wrote:
> hi
>
> "Jonathan MacIntyre" <jonwally2002@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:Hr7xHI.3p6@lugnet.com...
> > Lego does make some good models, but then they make things like the "Fire
> > Truck" and "Tow Truck" (http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8462). I think Lego
> > should hire people off street (or internet) to design models. If given
> > enough time I could build a better fire truck.
> i think there is finite amount of models which can be buid
> i'm not saying nothing new will appear
> but if you track out technic history you will see few models
> which are redesigned from time to time
True. But the original posting wasn't complaining that there weren't new
subjects for LEGO Technic sets, rather that the MegaBloks set *looked* so very
good. It was then me who pointed out that the current LEGO fire truck looks
very much like a.... like a..... like a..... well, not like a fire truck. :)
Again, no complaints about the subject matter... just the execution of the
design.
> models should be good looking AND good working
> they sould be interesting and entertaining
Yup. I agree.
> and what fulfill it?
> supercars, back hoes, bulldozers etc
Fire trucks are interesting and entertaining too!
> but we cannot have new supercar every year
> so sometimes we have weak models
> just to wait for these excelent :)))
But don't weak models = weak sales?
Maybe it would have been better to _not_ release the LEGO fire truck this year.
Maybe it needed to go back to the drawing board for a while. Maybe it needed a
complete redesign before being released.
> in case of fire truck from dennis post
> we can see there good looking "bricks" which are ladder
> but noting more than ladder
> i suspect nothink more can be done from this ladder
> but the whole issue is to design universal pieces
> that's why there is no ladder in any lego technic or lego model team models
If you have a copy, or can borrow one, take a look on page 9 of the Ultimate
LEGO Book. There is a ladder truck there that uses primarily 1x2 45 degree
white slopes (regular and some inverted) to create a very nice looking ladder.
It can be done. In fact, it's been done. But why can't they take a realistic
model like that... scale it down a touch... and release that as a set? I can't
think of a reason.
All the best,
Allan B.
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"Allan Bedford" <ExpertBuilder-DELETE-TO-REPLY@apotome.com> wrote in message
news:Hr82qz.wDC@lugnet.com...
> current LEGO fire truck looks
> very much like a.... like a..... like a..... well, not like a fire truck. :)
it's an air-port fire truck
it doesn't have to have ladder
but in fact what to release fire-truck for if it is not a fire-truck what everyone is expected :))
> > models should be good looking AND good working
> > they sould be interesting and entertaining
> > and what fulfill it?
> > supercars, back hoes, bulldozers etc
>
> Fire trucks are interesting and entertaining too!
sure but "regular" FT
with ladder and maybe with the trailer :)))
> Maybe it would have been better to _not_ release the LEGO fire truck this year.
> Maybe it needed to go back to the drawing board for a while. Maybe it needed a
> complete redesign before being released.
it was done
first showed version was olive green
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In lugnet.technic, Paul Kleniewski wrote:
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“Allan Bedford” ExpertBuilder-DELETE-TO-REPLY@apotome.com wrote in message
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current LEGO fire truck looks
very much like a.... like a..... like a..... well, not like a fire truck. :)
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it’s an air-port fire truck
it doesn’t have to have ladder
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Very true. Yes, I knew it was an ARFF, but I guess I figured that since this
was LEGO’s first foray into that particular sub-genre of fire/rescue vehicles,
that they might stick to something a little more traditional looking:
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but in fact what to release fire-truck for if it is not a fire-truck what
everyone is expected :))
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I apologize, I am not sure what you mean by this statement.
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models should be good looking AND good working
they sould be interesting and entertaining
and what fulfill it?
supercars, back hoes, bulldozers etc
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Fire trucks are interesting and entertaining too!
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sure but “regular” FT
with ladder and maybe with the trailer :)))
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I think all fire/rescue vehicles are exciting. from traditional ‘hook and
ladder’ trucks or pumpers to rescue squads, and certainly airport vehicles.
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Maybe it would have been better to not release the LEGO fire truck this
year. Maybe it needed to go back to the drawing board for a while. Maybe it
needed a complete redesign before being released.
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it was done
first showed version was olive green
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Oh I remember that well. Although some argued that it was the latest/greatest
lime yellow color intended to draw better attention to the vehicle.
My comment above, about going back to the drawing board, was meant to suggest
that perhaps this model could have been a little less slick and modern and a
little more traditional, as shown above. If some of the newer trucks do look
like this (and I don’t think any of them look quite so much like race cars)
that’s fine. But for a company already struggling with sales figures over the
last 5 years I think a more well-known design would have been the better route
to go.
Allan B.
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"Allan Bedford" <ExpertBuilder-DELETE-TO-REPLY@apotome.com> wrote in message
news:HrC4AA.1JKr@lugnet.com...
> > but in fact what to release fire-truck for if it is not a fire-truck what
> > everyone is expected :))
>
> I apologize, I am not sure what you mean by this statement.
i'm sorry
my english is weak i know
i meant to ask rhetoric
what for TLC released FT in a shape which cannot be recognized as FT :)
> ... for a company already struggling with sales figures over the
> last 5 years I think a more well-known design would have been the better route
> to go.
holy words
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In lugnet.technic, Paul Kleniewski wrote:
>
> "Allan Bedford" <ExpertBuilder-DELETE-TO-REPLY@apotome.com> wrote in message
> news:HrC4AA.1JKr@lugnet.com...
>
> > > but in fact what to release fire-truck for if it is not a fire-truck what
> > > everyone is expected :))
> >
> > I apologize, I am not sure what you mean by this statement.
>
> i'm sorry
> my english is weak i know
I only know one language, so you are way ahead of me. :)
> i meant to ask rhetoric
> what for TLC released FT in a shape which cannot be recognized as FT :)
I understand completely. And agree totally.
> > ... for a company already struggling with sales figures over the
> > last 5 years I think a more well-known design would have been the better route
> > to go.
>
> holy words
I think we were sort of saying the same thing... just using different words. :)
All the best,
Allan B.
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In lugnet.technic, Allan Bedford wrote:
> > I wonder why LEGO doesn't bring out such models.
>
> Because LEGO thinks that fire trucks should look like race cars:
>
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8454
This truck isn't really that far out. For your consideration, take a look at
the following, which are current design airport crash trucks:
http://www.rosenbaueramerica.com/ProductsServices/Vehicles/ARFF/EightWheeledPanther/index.cfm
http://www.carmichael-int.co.uk/new_prod/mainnew.htm
They're not quite as streamlined as the Lego model, but the family resemblance
is definitely there.
Adrian
--
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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In lugnet.technic, Adrian Drake wrote:
> In lugnet.technic, Allan Bedford wrote:
> > > I wonder why LEGO doesn't bring out such models.
> >
> > Because LEGO thinks that fire trucks should look like race cars:
> >
> > http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8454
>
>
> This truck isn't really that far out. For your consideration, take a look at
> the following, which are current design airport crash trucks:
>
> http://www.rosenbaueramerica.com/ProductsServices/Vehicles/ARFF/EightWheeledPanther/index.cfm
>
> http://www.carmichael-int.co.uk/new_prod/mainnew.htm
>
> They're not quite as streamlined as the Lego model, but the family resemblance
> is definitely there.
Adrian... thanks for the links. It certainly seems as though there might have
been some real world inspiration for this model afterall. But as I've noted
elsewhere in the thread, I think that a more traditional airport rescue vehicle
might have created a wider appeal. Perhaps something like this:
http://airport.kovatch.com/products/files/fire/airport/ARFF.jpg
However... who knows? Maybe the race car fire truck is selling like...
wildfire. ;)
All the best,
Allan B.
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