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| | | Even though I rarely start threads on Lugnet, I thought this topic is ripe for discussion. We've seen from the recent thread, (URL) gives space a whirl, that there seems to be some interest in a Space Cargo Container Standard. Drawing on the above (...) (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jake McKee
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| | | | | (...) I'd say standard dimensions are a requirement! I'd also say we include a short and long version of the containers, much like trains (or real-life intermodal) does. the containers I used (I think) are 8 studs long, so this could be the short (...) (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Mike Kollross
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| | | | | Snippage (...) I'm not very active in .space but I'll throw in my $0.02. I like the idea of the 8 x 16 studs for width and length. If height of a moonbase corridor is 7 bricks and two plates adding corner plates to the bottom corners would bring the (...) (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Nick Kappatos
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| | | | | (...) I don't see this as being an issue for the MoonBase. I see it being more necessary for a MB rail or track system, but even then it doesn't need to be "nailed down" like the MB corridors have to be. If the MB corridors don't line up, then (...) (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Mike Kollross
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| | | | | | | Snippage (...) I don't think anyone is talking about changing the MB standards as much as designing a standard for containers to fit WITH the MB. Mike (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Nick Kappatos
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| | | | | | | | (...) Here's the part in Jeff's original message that particular reaction is to; I read it as changing the corridor height at the ends, but after re-reading the passage it appears ambiguous. (...) (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Duane Hess
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| | | | | | (...) I agree that this is more of a container standard than a MB standard. I'm not sure Jeff was talking about modifying the MB standard at all. I think his point is that we should try to make the container standard conform to the MB airlock (...) (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | (...) This is what I meant. I added another post I talked about one way you could use these modules (similar to how MPLM's are used on NASA's space shuttle and ISS). Here's the article: (URL) To muddy the waters further, an 8 x 8 container would (...) (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | I'm wondering if no one saw my last post under the old thread (URL) I've done exactly this and it works great. I'll post some LDRAW files when I get home tonight : ) (...) (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | | (...) I really like your cargo modules and would love to see this extended into a "real" standard, published on the Moonbase website. This is very close to what I'd envision as a standard. I really like the ability to put Moonbase connections on the (...) (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | | | (...) More pics of cargo space and rail elements : ) The modular cab & thruster assemblies rendevous with long-range hyperspace haulers in orbit above the moonbase and bring TEU's down to the surface. (URL) the surface, the TEU's are transferred to (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) really liking the Moonbase attachment points on all four sides. (...) similar to the way I've seen truck/rail containers transferred. Also, it minimizes the height of the train so that it has less of a chance of hitting something while it is (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | | | | | | Thanks : ) I've added a few more Ldraw files to my brickshelf gallery including a half-TEU which is 8x8 with the end covers removed. Several people mentioned it would be useful so here you go: (URL) after moderation: (URL) still working on a (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | | | | | | | I added an automated locomotive unit to the gallery : (URL) it is in action : (URL) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Crane —Christian Treczoks
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) My design covers the crane part, and could easily mix&match with your design. Pictures and short descriptions can be found at (URL). Yours, Christian (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | | | | | | Neat, stuff Christian : ) I've decided that cranes aren't "spacey" enough though... In the future, cargo containers get unloaded and transferred to the rail-head by swarms of computer-controlled maneuvering pods : (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Jean-Pascal Rignault
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Jason, I've checked your brickshelf folder, your containers and utilities are very convincing! Good work, I'd like to see something like this becoming the MoonBase standard for containers. JP. (20 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Thanks : ) (...) (20 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) space anyway.... ROSCO (20 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Thanks : ) That's why I tweaked the Cargo Cab so it can carry 4 maneuvering units with it to unload the containers from hyperspace hauler. (...) (20 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Christian Treczoks
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Thanks! (...) that load/unloads the containers automatically, completely run by RCXs. The "Road Train" that transports the containers was designed to run autonomous (following a black line on the ground, stopping after entering the loading bay (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | | | | | | Neato! I can't wait to see pics : ) (...) (20 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Crane —Christian Treczoks
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Sorry, no pics, this was before I had a digicam, and the whole scenario has been scrapped for parts. If you like to see the parts, though, they can be found right here: (URL) ;-) (Yes, this is actually build on the four 48x48 baseplates that (...) (20 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Wow, that's a very nice and versatile system! I like the way the endcaps work, functionally and aesthetically. One thing I'm not so keen on is the doors on the side. One, they cast the impression that the container is structurally weak on that (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | | | | (...) real life application. Has anyone built this and tested it on trian curves and switches? I think you may hav a problem keeping the single axle from having a mind of its own... (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Daniel Hamann
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Reading your post it comes to my mind: I tried this as child to save wheels and therefore to build as many cars as possible, but the axles got stuck between the tracks. (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'd think this would work simply by replacing the front set of turntables (2x2 plate, 3680C01.DAT) with 2x2 plates (3022.DAT). The automated engine ought to be fine with turntables on both the front and back. On "real" cargo container trains (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | (...) Semi trailers and cargo containers are very different beasts. Cargo containers are just big boxes. No wheels or anything, and they come in long and short varieties (where 2 shorts = 1 long). Standard cargo container cars are basically just (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | | | (...) While this is true, the LEGO design we have here is similar to both. It's similar to cargo containers, but has attachment points for railroad wheels between the cars (which is similar to semi trailers that have attachment points for railroad (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Duane Hess
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| | | | | | | (...) Looks like a moonbase trailer park... :-) Actually, that's not a bad idea either. Why pack your belongings when you move? Just uncouple the module and transport the whole works. -Duane (20 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | ContainerHabs —Tony Alexander
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| | | | | | (...) Neat ideas! A stack of ContainerHab floors lends itself nicely to several high-density temporary housing uses: * Low income single person housing * Construction worker/military barracks * cargo runner motel (think truck stop) * prison cell (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: ContainerHabs —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) Here's something I built along those veins back when we started the MB project: (URL) TV, table, chair, light, door...what more do you need? --Bram (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: ContainerHabs —Tony Alexander
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| | | | | | | (...) Nicely done! And very forward-looking, to have been done back at the beginning! It took me a minute to figure out how your door slid so nicely; elegant solution, and very spacey-looking! Looks like just enough room for one person to live with (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: ContainerHabs —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | (...) How did I miss this Bram? How? I don't suppose instructions would be too much to ask for, would it? I've had an idea of building a tower that MB dorms like this could attach to - a modular building. -Lenny (20 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jason S. Mantor
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| | | | | Here, check these out : ) New render with a TEU* open: (URL) file : (URL) foot Equivalent Unit (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Christian Treczoks
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| | | | | Hi, I'm usually no spacehead (although my first larger MOC was/is SciFi, and my next will be, too), and I scrapped my moonbase module for parts to build a castle MOC (yes, yes, I know...), but I already designed something with "containers" and just (...) (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Gil Shaw
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| | | | | (...) When I was working on the containers last year, I fooled with an adapter couplers to join the containers to the moonbase corridors. It's been long disassembled, but I'm going over the old sketches that I had and am in the process of rebuilding (...) (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | (...) Cool. I'd certainly like to see pictures. :) Jeff (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Christian Treczoks
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| | | | | (...) Hi, Over the weekend, I actually managed to rebuild a working model of my old space container system (including my enhancements) as promised. Pictures and short descriptions can be found at (URL). Yours, Christian Treczoks (20 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Chris Giddens
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| | | | Hello space-a-rinos, I don't know if a final standard for moonbase containers has been figured out, but here is my humble attempt at a solution. (URL) It's smaller than other's I've seen and less part intensive (for trading you could make one out of (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Chris Giddens
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| | | | | AHA! (forgive the self reply but credit must be given :-D ) I KNEW I had inspiration for this from somewhere... and it was the good Grand Admiral who did it... long ago. (URL) (dude, I still think that is pink brick) GA always years ahead of the (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Gil Shaw
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| | | | | (...) I like it. The handle clips on the bottom could also be slider guides for stacking it sideways along tiled ledges. I believe that newer versions of the clip handles are offset down to be flush with the bottom of a brick...twould work well, (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —David Laswell
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| | | | | | (...) Not the ones that came in my Robo-Pod. They're still offset up to be flush with the top of a tile. (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Space Cargo Container Standard? —Troy Routley
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| | | | (...) I like it. I think it can coexist with the 8x16 corridor sized containers too: large containers could easily carry the little ones (2 to a standard container, or 1 to a half-sized container), and the little containers would be more useful for (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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