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In lugnet.western, David Little writes:
> Has anyone out there tryed to build any Iron Clads ships from the Civil War
> Era. Just curious.
It depends on what you mean by "Ironclads." I've done ironclads,
but they're the oceangoing European sort--really overgrown frigates--
not the coastal or riverine sort that usually is associated with
the US Civil War. (Sorry, no pics at the moment--the _Gloire_
page is still offline.) An "ironclad" is technically a ship with
a wooden hull sheathed in iron; thus, the French _Gloire_ was a
true ironclad, while the British _Warrior_ isn't (it's still
in existence at Portsmouth, thus the "is") because the actual
hull is iron, though some wood is used in the armour to absorb
shot energy; the Confederate _Virginia_ (ex-Federal _Merrimack_)
was a true ironclad, the USS _Monitor_ really wasn't/isn't (it
was built completely of iron, IIRC). [1]
I've been kicking around building a late-war _Montauk_-style
Union monitor, but the biggest problems, quite honestly, are
the dadgummed round turrets. [2] The hulls are quite easy by com-
parison. Confederate ironclads like _Virginia_ and _Tennessee_
are easier only because they've got deckhouses instead of
turrets, but I've still had little luck with those--they have
conical ends to the gun deck, another bear to render. (This
may not be true viz. _Tennessee_--drawings and paintings I've
seen vary, much as they do for Hampton Roads and the actual
appearance of the combatants there.)
There were smaller river ironclads that had square deckhouses;
well, not actually square, but kind of pyramidal (if you cut the
top 4/5 off the pyramid, that is). Those could be done with 4 or 8
of the MTT 2x2x3 steep-slope dkgrey corners, methinks. Barring
that, med-slope corners may be passable.
I suppose the short answer, then, is "not really."
best (and hopefully informatively?),
Lindsay
Xpost -> .pirates, .boats for their considerable expertise;
FUT -> .western solo [3] again.
[1] The uncertainty regarding the verb tense reflects uncertainty
in the current status of _Monitor_. It's not afloat, but its
sunken hull off Cape Hatteras is still popular with more...
'adventurous' divers. By my last reckoning, there was talk in
the US Navy about conserving the hull where it lies--it's in
serious danger of deteriorating to the point of unrecognition,
and it is still technically a war grave and the property of
the USN.
[2] These were the ones with two turrets, each with two 11"
Dahlgren guns.
[3] Not "western solo" as in Roy Rogers singing alone...
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| Do you think the boat hull from the adventure set would do for a small version. I am considering getting some of those sets to build some small versions of iron clads. Or do you think that they are not wide enough. Thank you for your help David (...) (23 years ago, 2-Feb-01, to lugnet.western, lugnet.pirates, lugnet.boats)
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| (...) Actually some wood was used: " The ship would be 172 feet long with a 41 foot 6 inch beam. Two 11 inch guns would be housed in a revolving turret. The ship would have a flat deck with only 18 inches of free board and a draft of 10 feet 6 (...) (19 years ago, 9-Apr-05, to lugnet.western, lugnet.pirates, lugnet.build.military, FTX)
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