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Re: My fleet is (emphatically not) bigger'n your fleet!
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Mon, 8 Nov 1999 06:53:35 GMT
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:

In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
Man you guys have some hardware.

My fleet is based on just 4 RBR and 3 AF.  That gives me the Agamemnon (4
centres), the Pequad (2) the something else (2) that hasn't made it off the
chocks yet, and two little AF based raider types.

Ah, but you are using Lego in a fashion more to the conception of what it
should be: build and display.  Wackos like Frank and myself are using them as
miniatures for gaming.  I assure you, my stuff doesn't look half as nice as
yours.

Nor does mine--for some reason, I can't build an attractive sailing ship.  I always
end up having to stuff a funnel on it somewhere.

And you could most certainly shake a thingy at my fleet of row boats.

Mine too.  And your thingy would most likely sink them.


Pictures gentlemen - more pictures!  My imagination is getting its neurons
in a twist over the sorts of port scenes one could create with two or three
1st raters.

My mother-in-law is getting a digital camera.  Perhaps I can borrow it in
return for fixing her computer.

I'm going to try to hijack my mother's thousand-dollar sony digital camera for a
month between Thanksgiving and New Years'--in the hopes that it'll be a mighty
spate o' building for yours truly.  I can dream!  I also dream of getting my own
"cheapie," maybe under $200 with insanely low resolution (352x284 or somesuch).

Lord help you all if I can get some (small) parts of your fleets under my
guns ;-)

Arrrr, you be not wantin' to be squarin' off wif me massed fleet.  Port Block
be doomed and me men'll have thar way wif the horses (Arrrr, they be a confused
lot).

_The Art of War_ makes that one of its central tenets--not the "manhandle the
horses" thing, but "don't hit them where they're strongest".  Wheel out the long
carronades and circle 'em with sloops!  Arrr...1588 all over again.

I can perhaps understand the horses--after all, there's only one pirate wench.

LFB.


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Re: My fleet is (emphatically not) bigger'n your fleet!
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:16:31 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:

_The Art of War_ makes that one of its central tenets--not the "manhandle the
horses" thing, but "don't hit them where they're strongest".  Wheel out the • long
carronades and circle 'em with sloops!  Arrr...1588 all over again.

I can perhaps understand the horses--after all, there's only one pirate wench.

LFB.


Them carronades be throwing a big ball a short ways.  Good fer poundin' in
close.  "Long carronades" be what they call an oxymoron (I be an eddicated
pyrate).


Cap'n Redbeard


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Re: My fleet is (emphatically not) bigger'n your fleet!
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Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:50:47 GMT
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:

In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:

_The Art of War_ makes that one of its central tenets--not the "manhandle the
horses" thing, but "don't hit them where they're strongest".  Wheel out the • long
carronades and circle 'em with sloops!  Arrr...1588 all over again.

I can perhaps understand the horses--after all, there's only one pirate wench.

LFB.

Them carronades be throwing a big ball a short ways.  Good fer poundin' in
close.  "Long carronades" be what they call an oxymoron (I be an eddicated
pyrate).

Ahhh heck.  You're right.  What am I thinking of?  Not culverins--those are old
bronze art-deco cannon, though they were long...I think that may be the term used
to refer to the long-range chasers as well.

LFB


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Re: My fleet is (emphatically not) bigger'n your fleet!
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Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:30:07 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:


Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:

In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:

_The Art of War_ makes that one of its central tenets--not the "manhandle • the
horses" thing, but "don't hit them where they're strongest".  Wheel out the • long
carronades and circle 'em with sloops!  Arrr...1588 all over again.

I can perhaps understand the horses--after all, there's only one pirate • wench.

LFB.

Them carronades be throwing a big ball a short ways.  Good fer poundin' in
close.  "Long carronades" be what they call an oxymoron (I be an eddicated
pyrate).

Ahhh heck.  You're right.  What am I thinking of?  Not culverins--those are • old
bronze art-deco cannon, though they were long...I think that may be the term • used
to refer to the long-range chasers as well.

LFB

Long cannons were simply refered to as long cannons, or long (shot weight).
E.G. Long 18s, long 12s, long 9s.  Long versions of a shot size were
considerably heavier than than non-long version, so often they were reserved as
bow-chasers or stern-chasers.

I'm not sure if Culverin somehow indicated construction method, or if the term
was attached to an older style (bronze with external ribbing?).

Bruce


Subject: 
Phleet Photos Phublished (Was: Re: My fleet is (emphatically not) bigger'n your fleet!)
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Tue, 9 Nov 1999 04:57:50 GMT
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:

In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
Ahhh heck.  You're right.  What am I thinking of?  Not culverins--those are • old
bronze art-deco cannon, though they were long...I think that may be the term • used
to refer to the long-range chasers as well.

LFB

Long cannons were simply refered to as long cannons, or long (shot weight).
E.G. Long 18s, long 12s, long 9s.  Long versions of a shot size were
considerably heavier than than non-long version, so often they were reserved as
bow-chasers or stern-chasers.

I'm not sure if Culverin somehow indicated construction method, or if the term
was attached to an older style (bronze with external ribbing?).

It was an older style, originally, but I think the term enjoyed something of a new
genesis in the 19th century--but in what context, I'm unsure.

As for my fleet, well, I have a few things up, now that my old B&W scanner is
working again:

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/indomitable.html  (HMS Indomitable, the
battlecruiser.)

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/steamer.jpg (The steamer I mentioned before.)

Better detail pictures of everything forthcoming, now that I have a decent camera
*and* a scanner...arrrrrr.

LFB.


Subject: 
Re: Phleet Photos Phublished
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Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:51:25 GMT
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Mr L F Braun wrote

As for my fleet, well, I have a few things up, now that my old B&W scanner • is
working again:

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/indomitable.html  (HMS Indomitable, the
battlecruiser.)

http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/steamer.jpg (The steamer I mentioned
before.)


I like it!  I like it fine!

HMS Indomitable is the finest example of the art that I think I have seen.
If anything, I think its enhanced by the B&W.  Not only does it reduce the
pic to very realistic colours, but it also gives it that WW2 reconnaissance
shot feel.

And the Torpedo boat looks cool too - can we see some more :-)

Richard
Still baldly going...
Visit Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
PI[so,ig+++ pi++ is,ia-]++ AD++ NI+ TO---- S+ LS- A+ LM- YB66m :-)


Subject: 
Re: Phleet Photos Phublished
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Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:37:52 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
If anything, I think its enhanced by the B&W.  Not only does it reduce the
pic to very realistic colours, but it also gives it that WW2 reconnaissance
shot feel.

   Thanks for the kind words--and for mentioning the B&W as a positive.
   I'd wondered about that possibility (which has the added benefit of
   offsetting the odd colour scheme of those early ships) of "aging"
   the photo--if possible I'll try to "sepia-tone" the next batch to
   make it more of a WWI feel than a WWII, since the pattern-ship is
   the actual HMS Indomitable of 1909, *very* loosely translated from
   its 1921 appearance.

And the Torpedo boat looks cool too - can we see some more :-)

   I have to get some more film (from the "bad camera," of course)
   developed, but once that's done, there should be plenty.  It's
   three rolls, so there should be a few useable pieces there.  The
   better colonial cruiser, a few more sailing ships, and a later
   (c.1930s) cruiser will also be on those.  Hopefully by the weekend
   they'll be up.

   best,

   LFB


Subject: 
Re: Phleet Photos Phublished
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Date: 
Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:58 GMT
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Hey all,

I've updated the site a bit--added more ships of various sorts, and
fixed bad attributions.  I've got some good ones of the destroyers
coming on Sunday!

best

LFB.


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