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LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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LUCNY held it's first public display at the Syracuse Oncenter Convention
Center in Syracuse, NY this past weekend, January 11th and 12th.  The show
was the first time GATS had stopped in Syracuse, and we took advantage of
the great location to get organized and out in the public eye.

Setup started on Friday night with a flurry of activity by several members,
which resulted in a 8'x15' single level layout, with an additional 5'x8'
static display area off to one side.  We used that area to showcase MIB
sets, track design and engineering, let the kids look inside non-moving
rollstock and engines, and chat with interested aprties out of the fray.

We continued to tweak structures and scenes prior to the Saturday show
opening, and kept busy reminding little hands that perhaps it's not best to
touch a moving LEGO train...  Only a couple of "accidents" resulted from
horizontally opposed digits the entire show, and that's not bad since we
didn't use any formal crowd control.  The crowds were up to three deep at
times, but were manageable, friendly, talkative, cooperative, and interested
in what we were doing.

We gave out several hundred LEGO train catalogs, as supplied by Jake McKee
(thank you), along with a similar number of our version of the LTC FAQ flyer
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Flyer/flyer-gats-syr-2003-v5.doc).
We heard back several reports of sighting of the catalogs in shoppers' hands
at local stores looking for sets on the shelves.  There was a good deal of
interest in the product, and we were able to steer people in the right
direction for a change.  Nice move, LEGO.

Here's a link to some photos from the show, available upon moderation:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures

...in the meantime, here's a shot of the layout, taken near the end of the show:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures/img_1384.jpg

We had the "endless train" on the layout at the time, with a consist that
was joined head-to-tail in a loop all the way around the outside loop of the
layout.  Other features in this shot are the dam/tunnel, Spatchula City,
station, remote controlled point motors, A&W, doctor's office, pizza
trolley, etc.

Here's a shot of our downtown district, with construction pressing
ever-onward to support more urban sprawl:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures/img_1368.jpg

Our club logo truck is featured in this shot:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures/img_1369.jpg
...watch out for that falling lineman!

We had a good location in the front right corner of the hall, near a kids'
play area:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures/img_1375.jpg
...did I mention how well those table skirts turned out?  :^)

Here's a shot of our small switching yard - gotta build more room for this
on the next layout:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures/img_1363.jpg

In summary, we had a blast.  I recommend the experience to any club out
there, as the GATS folks were friendly and helpful at all times.  Very
professional group to work with.  Thanks goes out to several of our club
members for their contributions - most notably John R, Nate, Kevin, Peter,
and John B.  Thank you for your materials, time, sense of humor, and good
spirits throughout.  Thanks to Kevin's Mom and John R. for the goodies,
too...did I leave you guys any?

Anyhow, onward and upward.  I look forward to IndyLUG's inaugural GATS show
report and photos as well.

Ed
LUCNY

   
         
     
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Ed McGlynn writes:
LUCNY held it's first public display at the Syracuse Oncenter Convention
Center in Syracuse, NY this past weekend, January 11th and 12th.  The show
was the first time GATS had stopped in Syracuse, and we took advantage of
the great location to get organized and out in the public eye.

Looks like you got off to a GREAT start... thanks for sharing. Your flyer
came out great. (it's been put in my collection)

xfut trains.org

   
         
     
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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Here's a link to some photos from the show, available upon moderation:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures
Wow great show guys....I didn't know one of my buildings was is the show:-)
My police station from a train show 3 months ago
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=278010   A building from
your show show...http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302112 they
could be twins...same design sqaures etc...same colors...wow...

    
          
     
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Chris Leach writes:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures

Wow great show guys....I didn't know one of my buildings was is the show:-)
My police station from a train show 3 months ago
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=278010   A building from
your show show...http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302112 they
could be twins...same design sqaures etc...same colors...wow...


Yes, Chris is right.  His police station WAS at the recent GATS show.  I
liked his building so much I copied it almost 100 percent.  Actually, I think
his had windows on three sides while my version only had two facades.

Our train station is also taken from MichLug's Livonia show.  We needed a train
station and I had no ideas of my own.  Using just two pictures of David
Kohrman's train station I copied it in under three days.  The hardest part
for me was getting the building's footprint correct.  My version of this
station is about 90 percent identical to David Kohrman's.  I used half-arches
over the windows, for example, and I think he used full arch bricks at least in
a few places.  The roof is slightly different, too, as I went all the way to
the apex in all places where David did not.

Additional pics will be available here pending moderation -->
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=20434


__Kevin Salm__
LUCNY's master builder

    
          
      
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Kevin Salm writes:
In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Chris Leach writes:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures

Wow great show guys....I didn't know one of my buildings was is the show:-)
My police station from a train show 3 months ago
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=278010   A building from
your show show...http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302112 they
could be twins...same design sqaures etc...same colors...wow...


Yes, Chris is right.  His police station WAS at the recent GATS show.  I
liked his building so much I copied it almost 100 percent.  Actually, I think
his had windows on three sides while my version only had two facades.
Yep it has three sides so it can face inside of our downtown and have a good
side facing the crowd.
Our train station is also taken from MichLug's Livonia show.  We needed a train
station and I had no ideas of my own.  Using just two pictures of David
Kohrman's train station I copied it in under three days.  The hardest part
for me was getting the building's footprint correct.  My version of this
station is about 90 percent identical to David Kohrman's.  I used half-arches
over the windows, for example, and I think he used full arch bricks at least in
a few places.  The roof is slightly different, too, as I went all the way to
the apex in all places where David did not.

Additional pics will be available here pending moderation -->
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=20434

Cool Kevin...I had no idea anyone liked any of my buildings enough to make a
copy...I was just surprised to think it's worth doing...as for the train
station I said to my wife that your train station looked alot like Davids
but wasn't real sure....Chris MichLTC

    
          
      
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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...forgot to add to previous post:

I had intended to properly acknowledge my effort at copying other's designs for
the benefit of a public layout.  These recent show pictures got through
moderation faster than I had expected and I did not have the time to personally
invite the original creators to view my versions.

Therefore,
I would like to thank Chris Leach for the inspiration and ideas for building
the police station seen here -->
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302692
My apologies for the ugly Yellow building adjacent to it.  :)

I would also like to thank David Kohrman for the inspriation and ideas for
building the train station seen here -->
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302763
It was my idea to place this building on the inside of the rail yard.  Due to
this buildings low profile, it was not very prominent and I don't think was
noticed very well by the show visitors.  I now realize that was bad thinking as
this building's desing is very noteworthy.

There is an old adage that states
"Imiatation is the highest form of flattery."
It is my hope that both Chris and David are pleased that I liked  their designs
so well I copied them and used them in a public show.


__Kevin Salm__
LUCNY master builder

     
           
       
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:20:14 GMT
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In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Kevin Salm writes:
...forgot to add to previous post:

I had intended to properly acknowledge my effort at copying other's designs for
the benefit of a public layout.  These recent show pictures got through
moderation faster than I had expected and I did not have the time to personally
invite the original creators to view my versions.

Therefore,
I would like to thank Chris Leach for the inspiration and ideas for building
the police station seen here -->
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302692
My apologies for the ugly Yellow building adjacent to it.  :)

I would also like to thank David Kohrman for the inspriation and ideas for
building the train station seen here -->
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302763
It was my idea to place this building on the inside of the rail yard.  Due to
this buildings low profile, it was not very prominent and I don't think was
noticed very well by the show visitors.  I now realize that was bad thinking as
this building's desing is very noteworthy.

There is an old adage that states
"Imiatation is the highest form of flattery."
It is my hope that both Chris and David are pleased that I liked  their designs
so well I copied them and used them in a public show.


Kevin ,like i said in other post I didn't think it was worth copying.... but
to each his own:-)I'll send you some windows with the police stickers on it
so it looks right:-) Chris

     
           
      
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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In lugnet.trains, Kevin Salm writes:
...forgot to add to previous post:

I had intended to properly acknowledge my effort at copying other's
designs for
the benefit of a public layout.  These recent show pictures got through
moderation faster than I had expected and I did not have the
time to personally
invite the original creators to view my versions.

I want to point out for the record that Kevin made me aware of his intent
when we were talking about show prep stuff, (I think we were chatting on BL)
and I encouraged him to go ahead. I thought I gave him the names of the
people that did the buildings, but may have forgotten to get him emails, if
so I apologise for my oversight and any subsequent confusion it may have caused.

I think the originals were pretty neat in both cases (Chris, especially, is
to be commended for learning to build smaller... although he still has a way
to go) and am pleased to see the copies came out spiffy too.

    
          
     
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Kevin Salm writes:
Our train station is also taken from MichLug's Livonia show.  We needed a train
station and I had no ideas of my own.  Using just two pictures of David
Kohrman's train station I copied it in under three days.  The hardest part
for me was getting the building's footprint correct.  My version of this
station is about 90 percent identical to David Kohrman's.  I used half-arches
over the windows, for example, and I think he used full arch bricks at least in
a few places.  The roof is slightly different, too, as I went all the way to
the apex in all places where David did not.

Additional pics will be available here pending moderation -->
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=20434

Wow, I am suprised and honored!  Glad my design could provide helpful
inspiration.  I like your version!  I like how the roof goes higher then mine.

I am curious how you executed the overhang?  I can't really tell in the pics
but it looks like your roof overhangs 2 studs?  In mine I overhanged 3
studs, brown plates overhang 2 of the studs and the roof slopes extend an
extra stud beyond that.  You can see it in this pic...

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=277997

Also, except for the 2-wide arches on the tower, all of the arches on mine
are the 2 piece 8-wide arches.

I would love to see more pics!

David Kohrman



__Kevin Salm__
LUCNY's master builder

   
         
   
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Re: LUCNY@GATS in Syracuse this past weekend
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Snip
Here's a shot of our small switching yard - gotta build more room for this
on the next layout:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/LUCNY/GATS/SYR03/Pictures/img_1363
Snip

It's funny you mention switchyard size. We kept expanding and expanding our
switchyard until it required 4 people to set it up and I still think it
should have been bigger! I'm glad to hear it's not only us with that problem...

Beautiful layout!!

Robert Powell
SCLTC

 

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