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Re: Justice for all.....
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Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:21:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
Thanks for the link.  It highlights yet another reason the world
is not yet ready for a global court system.  Money.  Until the
economic disparity in the world is reduced significantly, there is
too great a possiblilty that economically disadvantaged countries
can be bribed.  Even more patience is required for that one, I think.

That hasn't bothered rich countries from joining in thus far. Richer than the
US, per capita, I might add. So whose money, bribing whom, to what end? If it
were for money alone, the ICC would be swamped in trials already.

However, now that the EU has a single currency, perhaps they could start
a bit smaller with an EUCC, show everyone how well it works, and slowly
try to entice other nations to join.

The EU has had an European Court of Justice for a number of years now, and so
far no problems have arisen; I suspect there is no need for a specific court
aimed at war crimes, them being conspicuously absent from the EU's internal
life.
Also, all the current 15 memberstates have signed up to the ICC, as well as 9 of
the 10 upcoming members (exception being the Czech Republic - don't ask me why,
I don't know).

The amazing thing is how noone in these nations seems to be bothered by the
ICC... I tend to think the excuse of "others will sue us for this and that,
blablabla" is rather lame, since being *accused* does not imply being
*condemned*. If you've done nothing wrong, and the burden of proof is not on
you, why worry?


Pedro



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(...) Does it really matter who or what money? The fact that it's possible, and the previously linked article demonstrates that it's already happening means that the ICC is being influenced by money. That needs fixing before the ICC will ever work. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  UN Gets It Right!
 
(...) That is a big "(URL)". But it looks like Bush will not get his way on this: (URL) War crimes immunity bid fails>-"For the past two years, I have spoken quite strongly against the exemption and I think it would be unfortunate for one to press (...) (20 years ago, 24-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Thanks for the link. It highlights yet another reason the world is not yet ready for a global court system. Money. Until the economic disparity in the world is reduced significantly, there is too great a possiblilty that economically (...) (20 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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