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Subject: 
WAMALUG May Meeting
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Date: Saturday, May 10, 2003 Time: 12:00PM - 5:00PM
Location: GMU Arlington Campus
3401 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, Virginia 22201
Room: 257
If you're in the area and you have a chance just stop in, join us!

Take the Metro if you can as parking will be a little bit tighter then usual.

LEGO Discussion,
Show and Tell and other stuff

The meeting will be in the Arlington Original building
(http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/arling.html

Christina Hitchcock
WAMALUG


Subject: 
WAMALUG April meeting
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Date: Sunday, April 13, 2003
Time: 12:00PM - 5:00PM

Location: GMU Arlington Campus
3401 North Fairfax Drive Arlington, Virginia 22201

Room: 257

If you're in the area and you have a chance just stop in, join
us!

  LEGO Discussion, Show and Tell, games(Brikwars/mideval), trading and other
stuff.

The meeting will be in the Arlington Original building (
http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/arling.html

Christina Hitchcock
WAMALUG


Subject: 
Re: From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
A question for folks in there area...

And a follow-up question...

I asked the WMATA RideGuide what's the best way for me to get from my hotel
to the GMU Arlington campus and it said this:

  Take ORANGE LINE Towards VIENNA/FAIRFAX -GMU
  Depart:  ROSSLYN METRO STATION  At 09:05 AM
  Arrive:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:13 AM

  Take 24M PENTAGON
  Depart:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:50 AM
  Arrive:  WILSON BV & KENMORE ST  At 09:55 AM

  Walk 0.09 miles NW to GEORGE MASON UNIVARL
      Walk 1 block NW on N KENMORE ST.

Does that sound correct?

No... the Virginia Square station is a better choice... when you surface
(there is a bit of construction that makes you go to the S a bit I think)
loop around to Fairfax and go to the right (east I think)... it's on your
left immediately after you pass the FDIC building.


Subject: 
Re: From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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"Todd Lehman" <todd@lugnet.com> writes:
My flight is supposed to get in at 10:06pm tonight at BWI.  The WMATA
website's (awesome) RideGuide feature says I should do the following to
get to my hotel (the Key Bridge Marriott): • [...]
[1] http://rideguide.wmata.com/index.html
Oh my if Boston only had a MBTA site this good!

That reminds me a lot of the Deutsche Bahn web site (http://www.bahn.de)
which I used to plan a lot of my travels while in Germany last summer.

Imagine a site for an entire *country* that good.  Including not only
the national train lines but also local buses as well...

--Bill.

--
William R Ward            bill@wards.net          http://www.wards.net/~bill/
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AMAZING BUT TRUE: There is so much sand in northern Africa that if it were
                  spread out it would completely cover the Sahara Desert!


Subject: 
Re: From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:29:31 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
A question for folks in there area...

My flight is supposed to get in at 10:06pm tonight at BWI.  The WMATA
website's (awesome) RideGuide feature says I should do the following to
get to my hotel (the Key Bridge Marriott):

  Take B30 GREENBELT STATION
  Depart:  BWI AIRPORT BUS STOP @PIER E LOWER LEVEL   At 10:20 PM
  Arrive:  GREENBELT METRO STATION  At 10:49 PM

  Take GREEN LINE Towards BRANCH AVE
  Depart:  GREENBELT METRO STATION   At 11:10 PM
  Arrive:  L'ENFANT PLAZA METRO STATION  At 11:38 PM

  Take BLUE LINE Towards FRANCONIA
  Depart:  L'ENFANT PLAZA METRO STATION  At 11:48 PM
  Arrive:  ROSSLYN METRO STATION  At 12:00 AM

  Walk 0.25 miles NW to MARRIOTT KEY BRIDGES
     Walk 2 blocks N on N MOORE ST.
     Turn left on LEE HWY.
     Walk 1 block W on LEE HWY.

And for the return trip on Sunday, it says if I want to get to BWI around
6:30pm (flight leaves 8:45), I should leave Rosslyn Metro Station at 5:03pm.

Does that sound about correct?  Is it allowing enough time?

--Todd

[1] http://rideguide.wmata.com/index.html
Oh my if Boston only had a MBTA site this good!

Sounds to me like it is cutting it extremely fine. On a Thursday evening, this
plan might very well have you catching the absolutely last Blue Line headed in
that direction, and it depends on you catching the shuttle 14 minutes after
arrival at BWI! But the site knows the scheduling of trains better than I do.
Especially on a weekend there can be 20 minutes before trains, though.


Subject: 
Re: From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:23:42 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
A question for folks in there area...

And a follow-up question...

I asked the WMATA RideGuide what's the best way for me to get from my hotel
to the GMU Arlington campus and it said this:

  Take ORANGE LINE Towards VIENNA/FAIRFAX -GMU
  Depart:  ROSSLYN METRO STATION  At 09:05 AM
  Arrive:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:13 AM

The Virginia Square station, one stop short of Ballston heading west, is one
block west of the BrickFest location and is already along Fairfax Drive.

  Take 24M PENTAGON
  Depart:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:50 AM
  Arrive:  WILSON BV & KENMORE ST  At 09:55 AM

  Walk 0.09 miles NW to GEORGE MASON UNIVARL
      Walk 1 block NW on N KENMORE ST.

Does that sound correct?

Also, is the 3401 North Fairfax Drive address shown here:

  http://www.brickfest.com/hotel_info.htm

is that where to go once at GMU?  And then we go up to the second/third
floors?

Fairfax Drive is already at the level of the second floor. There is a sidewalk
and a ramp connecting Fairfax Drive and the entrances on the second floor. As
pointed out on the floor plan available at the BrickFest site :( See an earlier
post from a coordinator making use of my photograph of the exterior of the
former Kann's department store that GMU occupies to make absolutely sure of the
identification.


Thanks,
--Todd


Subject: 
Re: From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:42:28 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
A question for folks in there area...

And a follow-up question...

I asked the WMATA RideGuide what's the best way for me to get from my hotel
to the GMU Arlington campus and it said this:

  Take ORANGE LINE Towards VIENNA/FAIRFAX -GMU
  Depart:  ROSSLYN METRO STATION  At 09:05 AM
  Arrive:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:13 AM

  Take 24M PENTAGON
  Depart:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:50 AM
  Arrive:  WILSON BV & KENMORE ST  At 09:55 AM

  Walk 0.09 miles NW to GEORGE MASON UNIVARL
      Walk 1 block NW on N KENMORE ST.

Does that sound correct?

not really - when we took the metro to WAMALUG meetings, we never had to
take a bus.  I don't remember offhand what stop we took, but I think it was
on the orange line...  Maybe ballston metro?  it was only a block or two away.

Dan


Subject: 
Re: From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:32:50 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
A question for folks in there area...

And a follow-up question...

I asked the WMATA RideGuide what's the best way for me to get from my hotel
to the GMU Arlington campus and it said this:

   Take ORANGE LINE Towards VIENNA/FAIRFAX -GMU
   Depart:  ROSSLYN METRO STATION  At 09:05 AM
   Arrive:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:13 AM

   Take 24M PENTAGON
   Depart:  BALLSTON METRO  At 09:50 AM
   Arrive:  WILSON BV & KENMORE ST  At 09:55 AM

   Walk 0.09 miles NW to GEORGE MASON UNIVARL
       Walk 1 block NW on N KENMORE ST.

Does that sound correct?

Also, is the 3401 North Fairfax Drive address shown here:

   http://www.brickfest.com/hotel_info.htm

is that where to go once at GMU?  And then we go up to the second/third
floors?

Thanks,
--Todd


Subject: 
Re: From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Todd Lehman writes:
[1] http://rideguide.wmata.com/index.html
Oh my if Boston only had a MBTA site this good!

no kidding!  it was one of the first things I missed when I moved here.
RideGuide rocks! :)

FUT Geeking


Subject: 
From BWI to hotel on the WMATA
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Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:19:03 GMT
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A question for folks in there area...

My flight is supposed to get in at 10:06pm tonight at BWI.  The WMATA
website's (awesome) RideGuide feature says I should do the following to
get to my hotel (the Key Bridge Marriott):

   Take B30 GREENBELT STATION
   Depart:  BWI AIRPORT BUS STOP @PIER E LOWER LEVEL   At 10:20 PM
   Arrive:  GREENBELT METRO STATION  At 10:49 PM

   Take GREEN LINE Towards BRANCH AVE
   Depart:  GREENBELT METRO STATION   At 11:10 PM
   Arrive:  L'ENFANT PLAZA METRO STATION  At 11:38 PM

   Take BLUE LINE Towards FRANCONIA
   Depart:  L'ENFANT PLAZA METRO STATION  At 11:48 PM
   Arrive:  ROSSLYN METRO STATION  At 12:00 AM

   Walk 0.25 miles NW to MARRIOTT KEY BRIDGES
      Walk 2 blocks N on N MOORE ST.
      Turn left on LEE HWY.
      Walk 1 block W on LEE HWY.

And for the return trip on Sunday, it says if I want to get to BWI around
6:30pm (flight leaves 8:45), I should leave Rosslyn Metro Station at 5:03pm.

Does that sound about correct?  Is it allowing enough time?

--Todd

[1] http://rideguide.wmata.com/index.html
Oh my if Boston only had a MBTA site this good!


Subject: 
BrickFest: Roommate matching needed
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I've got a place to stay, but I've noticed a number of other people who aren't
sure whether they can make it due to the cost -- or who are sure they're going
but would really like to find a way to keep costs down.

Does anyone out there have a hotel room and wish to split the cost with
another AFOL?  Let's hear from you!

Are there people in the DC/Arlington area who are willing to put fellow AFOLs
up for the night?  Let's hear from you!

I looked around on the BrickFest website but didn't find a "roommate matching
board" or anything like that.  I seem to recall one from last year, but maybe
I'm just imagining that.  Anyway, it seems like if someone from out of town
could stay with someone in the area, they'd be more than happy to do their own
laundry, cook dinner, etc.  Seems like a win-win -- if only we can match
people up.

--Todd

p.s.  I found a place to stay by responding to a post that someone had posted
in lugnet.events.brickfest.  Try it, it works!

[followups to lugnet.events.brickfest]


Subject: 
WAMALUG meeting
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Sunday, January 13th
Location: GMU Arlington Campus
Room: 257
Time: 12:00 p.m. - 5:00+ p.m.

What to expect:
Just a little bit of everything
RCX
Trains
trading and other stuff

the last meeting:
http://www.wamalug.org/meetings/meeting_01_12_9.htm

Directions
http://www.brickfest.com/directionshotelinfo.htm

The meeting will be in the Arlington Original building (same place as
brickfest)
http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/arling.html

Christina

p.s.
Sorry for the short notice


Subject: 
WAMALUG Meeting November 11th
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Sunday, November 11th
Location: GMU Arlington Campus : Metro,  Virginia Square, on the orange
line.
Room: 257
Time: 1:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.

And/or join some of us at Union Station this weekend for the LEGO Harry
Potter event.

If you're in the area and you have a chance just stop in, join us!

Agenda:
Discussion
Show and Tell
brik wars
trading and stuff

Pictures from the last meeting:
http://www.wamalug.org/meetings/meeting_10_14_01.htm


Directions
http://www.brickfest.com/directionshotelinfo.htm

The meeting will be in the Arlington Original building (same place as
brickfest)
http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/arling.html


Christina


Subject: 
WAMALUG Meeting: October 14th
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Sunday, October 14th
Location: GMU Arlington Campus : Metro,  Virginia Square, on the orange line.
Room: 257
Time: 1:00-5:00

If you're in the area and you have a chance just stop in.

Agenda:
Show and tell
trading LEGO brick and ideas
general discussion

the D C metro will be free on the 13th and 14th
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8309-2001Oct4.html

there is also Free parking on campus.


Directions
http://www.brickfest.com/directionshotelinfo.htm

The meeting will be in the Arlington Original building (same place as
brickfest)
http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/arling.html

Christina Hitchcock


Subject: 
Re: Going to DC, where to stay?
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In lugnet.loc.us.va, Stephen F. Roberts writes:

...Most of us will be up in Chantilly next weekend for the Greenberg Toy and
Train show at the Capital Expo Center
(http://www.greenbergshows.com/greenberg.html$/shows/info.html). If you get a
chance, you should stop by (maybe a 30-45 min drive from the mills).


In checking, the Greenburg event is actually the 18th, and we will be there
this weekend (10-12)  I may have to consider a 2nd trip just for the show
(again, Woodbridge is only 5 hrs driving time).  Wife is working that
weekend, so I am sure I could con my Dad (both of us are TCA members, and
avid Lionel nuts)into going.  If so, I will defintely look everyone up, and
maybe bring a couple of the Woodchuck trucks up there, too :o)!

...Just hide the money when you get to The Store the first time! It can be an
overwhelming experience at first and we don't need you hemorrhaging your life
savings in the first 10 minutes :-)

Mistake #1.   Never let better half read posts on Lugnet.  As we speak, she
is contemplating confiscating all credit cards, check books, and any large
bills in the wallet prior to Lego Outlet.

Mistake #2.   She didnt find the check card  :o)  >heh heh heh<

I see very large FILLED white Lego bags in the very near future.  We'll see
how much a Honda CR-V's cargo area will hold.

Rodney Gentry
Woodchuck County Fire and Rescue
http://members.aol.com/whstlpig05/Woodchuckmain.html
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Whistlepig


Subject: 
Re: Going to DC, where to stay?
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"Rodney Gentry" <Whstlpig05@aol.com> wrote:

Anyone know of a decent (Yet affordable) hotel in the DC area.  Specifically
in the area of Potomac Mills Mall  :o)  Coming up for the weekend from
Roanoke (around 5 hour drive) with a large lego budget and lots of time to
spend in the outlet store (...and with the permission from the wife) and
wondered if anyone had any suggestions.  That, and how is the traffic around
5 or 6pm on fridays (I'm scared to ask).

...I don't know of any specific hotels and stuff, Check Yahoo for city info for
Dale City, Potomac Mills and Woodbridge Va. I'm sure there's lots of tourist
pages for the area, seeing as Potomac mills is the #1 tourist destination in
Virginia (scary, if you ask me...:-/

...As for traffic, you should be going against traffic at 6pmish on Friday, but
it will still be bad... You take your life into your own hands :-)



If anyone should be in the area, I would happily bring creations  :o)
(Mostly town/fire related)

...Most of us will be up in Chantilly next weekend for the Greenberg Toy and
Train show at the Capital Expo Center
(http://www.greenbergshows.com/greenberg.html$/shows/info.html). If you get a
chance, you should stop by (maybe a 30-45 min drive from the mills).


Looking forward to the trip......

...Just hide the money when you get to The Store the first time! It can be an
overwhelming experience at first and we don't need you hemorrhaging your life
savings in the first 10 minutes :-)






Rodney Gentry
Woodchuck County Fire and Rescue
http://members.aol.com/whstlpig05/Woodchuckmain.html
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Whistlepig

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wubwub@wildlink.com
jains.has.it        <-- Jain's Guide
www.sitcatsit.com   <-- a guy and his cat
www.wildlink.com    <-- the wildlinks

Start planning for BrickFest 2002!
The AFOL Community's Premier Fan Run Event!
www.brickfest.com


Subject: 
Going to DC, where to stay?
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Anyone know of a decent (Yet affordable) hotel in the DC area.  Specifically
in the area of Potomac Mills Mall  :o)  Coming up for the weekend from
Roanoke (around 5 hour drive) with a large lego budget and lots of time to
spend in the outlet store (...and with the permission from the wife) and
wondered if anyone had any suggestions.  That, and how is the traffic around
5 or 6pm on fridays (I'm scared to ask).

If anyone should be in the area, I would happily bring creations  :o)
(Mostly town/fire related)

Looking forward to the trip......

Rodney Gentry
Woodchuck County Fire and Rescue
http://members.aol.com/whstlpig05/Woodchuckmain.html
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Whistlepig


Subject: 
WAMALUG August meeting
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The Washington D.C. Metropolitan Area LEGO(R)Users Group Saturday,

Saturday, August 4th
Location: GMU Arlington Campus
Room: 246 (brickfest castle room)
Time: 12:00-5:00

Free parking on Saturday

I'd like to invite everyone on the list to attend this meeting. If
you're in the area and you have a chance just stop in, join us!
(Especially if you missed brickfest and you're just beating yourself up
about it).

Agenda:
Discussion
Show and Tell
Possible brik wars
trading and stuff
Greenberg Show August 18th and 19th in Chantilly Virginia

If you have any thing you would like to add please let us know.

Directions
http://www.brickfest.com/directionshotelinfo.htm

The meeting will be in the Arlington Original building
http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/arling.html

Christina Hitchcock


Subject: 
Re: Shopping - Zany brainy on 7 has several 8480 Space Shuttles
Newsgroups: 
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Rston, Fairfax (wext ox), and Sterling (cascades) has them.
the Fairfax store also has a dozen RIS 1.0's!

KL

In lugnet.loc.us.va.arl, Will Middelaer writes:
In lugnet.loc.us.va.arl, Kevin Loch writes:
Yep, I've seen 4 in several Zany Brainy's they had $149 stickers on them.
They also have a boatload of 6195's, and some 4565's.

KL


Kevin,

Which ZB's still had the 4565?  I waited too long to pick one up in Rockville
and they sold the last one the day before I went in.  Strange, though, they
had a few 4559's but no 4561's.

Will


Subject: 
Re: Shopping - Zany brainy on 7 has several 8480 Space Shuttles
Newsgroups: 
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In lugnet.loc.us.va.arl, Chris Phillips writes:
In lugnet.loc.us.va.arl, Kevin Loch writes:
Yep, I've seen 4 in several Zany Brainy's they had $149 stickers on them.
They also have a boatload of 6195's, and some 4565's.

KL

In lugnet.loc.us.va.arl, Will Middelaer writes:
In case anyone is interested.

I think that they are at full price.  I had not seen any of these in a store
(other than S@H and DYA, of course) in quite a while.


Will

I just bought (the last?) two 8480's from Toys R Us in Kingston, MA earlier
this week.  The price tag on the shelf said $150, but they ring up for $130.
But I didn't see any more on the shelf, so they might be history.
My find of the year for this year was this set at a ToysR Us here in Scranton
marked down to $32.90!! Just thought I'd brag about it.

Chris (always look at the top shelf) Lannan



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