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In lugnet.general, Nathan Wells wrote:
> In lugnet.general, David Koudys wrote:
> > Bottom line? TLC, change the colours or don't change the colours--It's
> > your company. You will stumble sometimes, and I guarantee you that you
> > will not make everyone happy with all the many different decisions you make
> > on a daily basis. I applaud your efforts to do what's right for your
> > company and your product.
> >
> > And if you, the AFOL, don't like the new colours? Then don't buy the new
> > colours. "But what about my MOCs? I won't be able to colour match!!"
> > Well, I'd like to see the '67 Camaro make a comeback as well, but I don't
> > see that company reissuing the car just 'cause the fans want it. Times
> > change. Can you imagine what would have happened if this tirade happened
> > when TLC released green in more than just baseplates? "Hey TLC!! Stick
> > with the original red, white, blue, yellow, and black bricks!!" I don't
> > even remember any shade of grey before '78.
>
> David, I applaud you.
>
> This has been a refreshing post to read due to current events and I thank
> you.
>
> Nathan (who is in total agreement with David Koudys) Wells
>
> > Dave K
> > -I give it a month before someone posts a MOC with new colours that'll make
> > many people say "Wow! Didn't think about that!"
Again, this misses the point. I think what most people are upset about is not
new colors appearing, but old colors disappearing. Sorry to flog a Dark Grey
horse...
- Chris.
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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>
> Again, this misses the point. I think what most people are upset about is not
> new colors appearing, but old colors disappearing. Sorry to flog a Dark Grey
> horse...
>
> - Chris.
I didn't state it as clearly as I intended, then--I understand the disappearance
of colours. I was having issue with the approach of many individuals--It's like
me demanding, in a very unpleasant way, that TLC bring back the wheels with the
metal axles and the 2x4's with axle holes on all 4 sides. Another point--I
would love to see the 1x4 brick with chrome headlight pattern from the '70's
come back. Will I cuss up and down that TLC discontinued that particular brick?
No.
It was a business decision to stop producing those particular models of bricks,
just as it is for them to change the colours. It's their business, and they
have to make business decisions.
If we have an issue, we can ask politely that they reconsider this decision.
I'm responding to the 'all is doom for us AFOLers!' and the 'TLC sux' rants.
Using an example from past hooplas like the Bionicle rants, I tried to show that
maybe all the ranters should just tone it down a notch and see what transpires.
The flurry of activity this colour change has produced on LUGNET is just
staggering. We have passionate individuals who cherish our collective chosen
hobby. We all anjoy LEGO, or we wouldn't be here in this discussion group.
However, sometimes our passion gets the best of us and things get said. I'm
more guilty of this than most--just look in o.t-d (sorry 'bout questioning your
humanity, Hoppy).
Every now and then, though, we should just sit back, take a deep breath, and
realize that, for at least my lifetime anyway, TLC's still here, and they still
make a pretty good product, and we still actively partake in LEGO related
activities--perhaps we could just calm down a second. Absolutely get the
petitions going and write letters, but please do so politely and with
consideration and respect towards each other and to TLC.
Dave K
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In lugnet.general, David Koudys wrote:
> In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
> > Again, this misses the point. I think what most people are upset about is not
> > new colors appearing, but old colors disappearing. Sorry to flog a Dark Grey
> > horse...
>
> If we have an issue, we can ask politely that they reconsider this decision.
> I'm responding to the 'all is doom for us AFOLers!' and the 'TLC sux' rants.
> Using an example from past hooplas like the Bionicle rants, I tried to show that
> maybe all the ranters should just tone it down a notch and see what transpires.
>
> The flurry of activity this colour change has produced on LUGNET is just
> staggering. We have passionate individuals who cherish our collective chosen
> hobby. We all anjoy LEGO, or we wouldn't be here in this discussion group.
> However, sometimes our passion gets the best of us and things get said. I'm
> more guilty of this than most--just look in o.t-d (sorry 'bout questioning your
> humanity, Hoppy).
>
> Every now and then, though, we should just sit back, take a deep breath, and
> realize that, for at least my lifetime anyway, TLC's still here, and they still
> make a pretty good product, and we still actively partake in LEGO related
> activities--perhaps we could just calm down a second. Absolutely get the
> petitions going and write letters, but please do so politely and with
> consideration and respect towards each other and to TLC.
You are absolutely correct on this point, and I couldn't agree more. I've been
somewhat taken aback by the tone taken by many here the last few days,
particularly with regard to the color change and the BioniCastle issue. Abusing
Jake is not the best way to convince the powers that be in Billund that they
have made some poor decisions. And some of the reactions posted here have been
so hysterical that they will be easily discounted in the board room.
I hope that people will give TLC some credit here. Jake has hinted (perhaps too
subtly) that the BioniCastle sets are not the only Castle sets that will come
out in 2004, and much of the ranting on that topic seems to have overlooked
that. I also have great hope that the sheer volume of responses to the color
change issue and even the passion contained therein may convince LEGO to reverse
this decision. I'm getting an awful lot of "server busy" responses today that I
doubt are being caused by a worm attack.
I also think that in recent years, TLC has shown an increased sensitivity to the
AFOL market. Pick-a-Brick, Legends, and Jake's involvement on this forum are
but a few examples that they are listening to us, even if they tend to react
slowly in most cases. Large corporations, like oil tankers, do not change
course quickly.
- Chris.
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
> I also think that in recent years, TLC has shown an increased sensitivity to the
> AFOL market. Pick-a-Brick, Legends, and Jake's involvement on this forum are
> but a few examples that they are listening to us, even if they tend to react
> slowly in most cases. Large corporations, like oil tankers, do not change
> course quickly.
>
> - Chris.
No, but oil tankers can sure run aground with a quickness ;)
-HRH
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In lugnet.general, David Koudys wrote:
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Absolutely get the petitions going and write letters, but please do so
politely and with consideration and respect towards each other and to TLC.
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Respect is absolutely a two-way street. TLC has none for the adult consumer,
not unless it somehow coincides with something they were planning anyway. Much
is made of the tiny part of the market we represent, so fine-- that’s just proof
that they don’t care about what we adult brick nuts think.
Sure they go to these “conventions” and so forth -- what company would forego an
advertising coup like that? Shoot themselves in the foot, sure -- miss an
opportunity for free marketing and possibly free press, not a chance.
I mean, can you even believe that Brad Justus mentioned these new castle knights
as new “castle”? I wasn’t there, but did he say it with a straight face? Were
his fingers crossed behind his back as he misrepresented and savagely distorted
the reality of what he was saying? There is a very serious disconnect right
there!
Bottom line: TLC is not the only game in town. They once were the best game
in town, but the more they play the game of the competition -- with action
figure junk, clone type colors, and lowered quality control -- the more they
will find that they have so muddied what separated them from the pack (mainly
MegaBloks) that there is no true difference.
Color me not that surprised...
-- Hop-Frog
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