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In lugnet.general, Joe Meno wrote:
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Hi all,
This is from a friend of mine, Gareth Bowler:
Got into my first 2004 sets today; the MINI star destroyer set, and
promptly scrapped them for parts, only to find, to my shock and dismay,
that the colors don’t match. Further more, the studs are rounded, making
connections significantly weaker, and the parts overall just have a cheaper
feel to them.
The two parts labelled “old” are both from 2003 sets, and have never had a
chance to yellow or been exposed to sunlight. The photo was not altered in
any way and is the raw output from my scanner.
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Everyone should take a deep deep breath and answer the following questions...
How many sets have these ‘new’ colors been seen in ?
How many themes have these ‘new’ colors been seen in ?
How many 2004 sets have been examined to determine if they have new or old
colors ?
So far, from what I have heard here, the answer to all three questions is... 1.
Much to do and hand wringing is being expended before the full extent of the
issue is known. Because of the lead times required to produce these sets, if
this is an intentional change (maybe yes, maybe no) then it already a done deed.
Not much we can do except to evaluate the actual situation and decide how to
react to it. Much ranting and raving at this point is not going to repeal
changes which have already occured.
Lets find out the true situation (on more than 24 hours knowledge) and then see
where to go.
Ray (who is getting a little tired of all the knee-jerk reactions)
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In lugnet.general, Ray Sanders wrote:
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Much to do and hand wringing is being expended before the full extent of the
issue is known. Because of the lead times required to produce these sets, if
this is an intentional change (maybe yes, maybe no) then it already a done
deed. Not much we can do except to evaluate the actual situation and decide
how to react to it. Much ranting and raving at this point is not going to
repeal changes which have already occured.
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even if its true that the greys are being changed, this is not the first time or
the last during Lego’s long heritage of producing building blocks that a change
has been made.
I would imagine that if the internet had been around when they changed from
cellulose or whatever they used to made bricks from, there would have been
people to protest it as an unwelcome change.
and besides, Ray is correct in that we have no official evidence of what changes
are even being made at this point.
Play well all :)
Joel K
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Relax, then rush out and get some of these new colors, and look at them side by
side with your old colors.
The grays are different. I like them. There is no chance I will confuse them
when they are mixed with the old.
Remember the excitement when the Mosaic came with a new gray? This is an
opportunity to expand your color palette. We don’t know that Lego won’t make the
old colors. Maybe George Lucas and Lego decided on this together just for “Star
Wars”.
The new light gray is much more “platinum” than the original one which looks
greenish by comparison (I’m in white flurorescent light.) It’s pearly. It is the
color you think your gray bricks are, but aren’t.
The new dark gray is like slate, or gunmetal blue. Next to the original dark
gray it looks almost like a color, or sand blue. Say halfway from dark gray to
sand blue.
Geez, suppose we had all gone off half cocked like this when the Statue of
Liberty green came along. Oh no! Lego is stop making green! Icky!
I asked my wife to look at them and point to which ones she liked. She picked
the two new ones.
As for the studs, the studs I got are exactly the same as the old ones.
-Erik
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In lugnet.general, Ray Sanders wrote:
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Everyone should take a deep deep breath and answer the following questions...
How many sets have these ‘new’ colors been seen in ?
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I have 3 of the new Star Wars Mini sets (Mini ISD, AT-TE, and Imperial Shuttle),
and they have the ‘different’ grey. The new X-Wing, though, has the ‘old’ grey.
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How many themes have these ‘new’ colors been seen in ?
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So far, it appears to be the Star Wars sets.
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How many 2004 sets have been examined to determine if they have new or old
colors ? • I did 3, and others on other boards (FBTB, for one) have examined their sets.
So far, from what I have heard here, the answer to all three questions is...
1.
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Check the forum at FBTB.
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Much to do and hand wringing is being expended before the full extent of the
issue is known. Because of the lead times required to produce these sets, if
this is an intentional change (maybe yes, maybe no) then it already a done
deed. Not much we can do except to evaluate the actual situation and decide
how to react to it. Much ranting and raving at this point is not going to
repeal changes which have already occured.
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Unless, it’s a glitch in the system, which can be fixed and changed. The point
here is not to rant, but to point out that we noticed the color change. There
are pretty strong implications from this, though, if this is a ‘done deed’.
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Lets find out the true situation (on more than 24 hours knowledge) and then
see where to go.
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Actually finding this out on a Friday wasn’t the best timing.
Joe
.space paparazzi!
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"Ray Sanders" <rsanders@svic.net> wrote in message
news:HoF20M.21xM@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.general, Joe Meno wrote:
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> Lets find out the true situation (on more than 24 hours knowledge) and • then see
> where to go.
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> Ray (who is getting a little tired of all the knee-jerk reactions)
Good points.
I decided to go to TRU and buy the 4492 to see what all of the fuss was
about. There is no doubt that the colors are different. To my eye, the
dark grey is visibly different, it has a hint of blue to it. The light grey
I probably would not have noticed had it never been mentioned in this
thread. That said, when you place it side by side with a current grey
element, you can see the color difference.
As for the stud difference, I don't see any. The studs look the same as all
of the other loose elements I have laying here on my desk. The parts went
together with the same "feel" that I have experienced in the past - I didn't
notice any looseness or anything like that.
Mike
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