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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> Then the model... It's a GP in BNSF colors!
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> A new part! 1x1x1/2 slope
Is that part on the front end of the model? I just guessing, based on the pics.
But I'm wondering if it's the parts near the very front that create the bevelled
look.
If not, can you help me understand what this part looks like? Based on the
dimensions above it would seem like it wouldn't have room for a stud. Is that
the case, or am I misinterpreting what you mean by 1/2. That's 1/2 brick tall,
right?
Anyway... thanks Larry as always for providing your timely reports of all this
great information.
Best regards,
Allan B.
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Allan Bedford wrote:
> In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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> > Then the model... It's a GP in BNSF colors!
> >
> > A new part! 1x1x1/2 slope
>
> Is that part on the front end of the model? I just guessing, based on the pics.
> But I'm wondering if it's the parts near the very front that create the bevelled
> look.
>
> If not, can you help me understand what this part looks like? Based on the
> dimensions above it would seem like it wouldn't have room for a stud. Is that
> the case, or am I misinterpreting what you mean by 1/2. That's 1/2 brick tall,
> right?
Hmm... How best to describe it? The dimensions I gave are wrong for starters,
sorry. (typing REALLY fast to try to recover from a momentary net outage... I
was wireless and it stopped working and Calum and his intrepid crew switched me
over as fast as they could to wired but there was still a time gap)
Take an ordinary 1x2 45 degree slope. (which is arguably a 1x1 brick with a
prism on the side if you think about it) Now make it only 2 plates high instead
of 3... Change the 1x1 brick to 2 1x1 plates, and lowerg the slope of the prizm
a bit to compensate. NOW (and this is the big change and the reason I said
"half".... subtract the 2 1x1 plates worth of material so that the footprint is
only 1x1 instead of 1x2. KEEP the prism but lose the flat part. It's JUST the
slope part, no studs at all.
It MAY be the same slope as a 45, I'm not sure.
The part (paired) is holding the number boards above the cab window.
Remember this is a prototype!!!! everything is subject to change, including the
automotive spray paint on the bricks to get them to look dark green.
>
> Anyway... thanks Larry as always for providing your timely reports of all this
> great information.
My pleasure, as always.
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.events.brickfest, Allan Bedford wrote:
> > In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> >
> > > Then the model... It's a GP in BNSF colors!
> > >
> > > A new part! 1x1x1/2 slope
> Take an ordinary 1x2 45 degree slope. (which is arguably a 1x1 brick with a
> prism on the side if you think about it) Now make it only 2 plates high instead
> of 3... Change the 1x1 brick to 2 1x1 plates, and lowerg the slope of the prizm
> a bit to compensate. NOW (and this is the big change and the reason I said
> "half".... subtract the 2 1x1 plates worth of material so that the footprint is
> only 1x1 instead of 1x2. KEEP the prism but lose the flat part. It's JUST the
> slope part, no studs at all.
Believe it or not, that's actually about what I was picturing, based on your
initial description. But thank you for clarifying. :)
> It MAY be the same slope as a 45, I'm not sure.
>
> The part (paired) is holding the number boards above the cab window.
In Calum's photo:
http://peach.mie.utoronto.ca/people/tsangc/nglcl/DSCN0887.jpg
I was looking at the pieces just to the right of the 1x1 transparent cylindrical
plate that faces front as the light. [I'm guessing the 1x1 sticks into the hole
of a 1x1 Technic brick, like the Santa Fe?] They look somewhat like the
angle/shape of the parts holding the number boards, as you've described above.
But of course it's tough to get a true feel from just the picture, so maybe
that's another part/part combo.
> Remember this is a prototype!!!! everything is subject to change, including the
> automotive spray paint on the bricks to get them to look dark green.
Sounds good. Spray paint is for Meccano parts, not LEGO elements. :)
> >
> > Anyway... thanks Larry as always for providing your timely reports of all this
> > great information.
>
> My pleasure, as always.
Larry, I hope you're finding time to enjoy Brickfest and not spending all your
time posting to LUGNET. ;)
Best regards,
Allan B.
Follow-ups set to: lugnet.parts (since this post is mostly about that new part)
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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Take an ordinary 1x2 45 degree slope. (which is arguably a 1x1 brick with a
prism on the side if you think about it) Now make it only 2 plates high
instead of 3... Change the 1x1 brick to 2 1x1 plates, and lowerg the slope of
the prizm a bit to compensate. NOW (and this is the big change and the reason
I said “half”.... subtract the 2 1x1 plates worth of material so that the
footprint is only 1x1 instead of 1x2. KEEP the prism but lose the flat part.
It’s JUST the slope part, no studs at all.
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So I guess it’s like:
chopped in to 4 pieces, with a 45-degree-ish slope rather than the curve?
-Bryan
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> Take an ordinary 1x2 45 degree slope. (which is arguably a 1x1 brick with a
> prism on the side if you think about it) Now make it only 2 plates high instead
> of 3... Change the 1x1 brick to 2 1x1 plates, and lowerg the slope of the prizm
> a bit to compensate. NOW (and this is the big change and the reason I said
> "half".... subtract the 2 1x1 plates worth of material so that the footprint is
> only 1x1 instead of 1x2. KEEP the prism but lose the flat part. It's JUST the
> slope part, no studs at all.
So it's like a Modulex slope
http://peeron.com/inv/parts/x715
but in System dimensions, yes?
--
TWS Garrison
http://www.morfydd.net/twsg/
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Wong wrote:
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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Take an ordinary 1x2 45 degree slope. (which is arguably a 1x1 brick with a
prism on the side if you think about it) Now make it only 2 plates high
instead of 3... Change the 1x1 brick to 2 1x1 plates, and lowerg the slope
of the prizm a bit to compensate. NOW (and this is the big change and the
reason I said “half”.... subtract the 2 1x1 plates worth of material so that
the footprint is only 1x1 instead of 1x2. KEEP the prism but lose the flat
part. It’s JUST the slope part, no studs at all.
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So I guess it’s like:
chopped in to 4 pieces, with a 45-degree-ish slope rather than the curve?
-Bryan
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Yes, a lot like that except without nearly as much vertical part, IIRC the
entire part is only 2 plates high. I think. I was so excited about the overall
set that I didn’t put enough peering into that specific part.
If you like, think of taking a 1x2 roof peak and cutting it in half. I just
can’t remember if the slope is the same, or different or how flush the slope is.
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Allan Bedford wrote:
> In Calum's photo:
>
> http://peach.mie.utoronto.ca/people/tsangc/nglcl/DSCN0887.jpg
>
> I was looking at the pieces just to the right of the 1x1 transparent cylindrical
> plate that faces front as the light.
I didn't see that one but yes I think you're right.
> [I'm guessing the 1x1 sticks into the hole
> of a 1x1 Technic brick, like the Santa Fe?]
I'm guessing that it's more like the peak in that it takes a stud rather than
has a stud. But I can't *say* for sure...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> Take an ordinary 1x2 45 degree slope. (which is arguably a 1x1 brick with a
> prism on the side if you think about it) Now make it only 2 plates high
> instead of 3... Change the 1x1 brick to 2 1x1 plates, and lowerg the slope
> of the prizm a bit to compensate. NOW (and this is the big change and the
> reason I said "half".... subtract the 2 1x1 plates worth of material so that
> the footprint is only 1x1 instead of 1x2. KEEP the prism but lose the flat
> part. It's JUST the slope part, no studs at all.
>
> It MAY be the same slope as a 45, I'm not sure.
They look like if you chop the 1x1 tip off a 1x3 33 slope to me. That slope
matches the faceted corners on the 4x4 wedge perfectly, if you line up the
corners (make sure you've got <http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?s=45677
this DAT> before you try viewing this):
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0 Author: Purple Dave¬
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0 ROTATION CONFIG 0 0¬
1 14 6 -4 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 45677.dat¬
1 4 -74 22 9.999 0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 4286.DAT¬
1 4 16 -49 9.999 0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 4286.DAT¬
1 14 46 -59 -30.001 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 4070.DAT¬
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> The part (paired) is holding the number boards above the cab window.
Those appear to be the same part as the ones lining the forward vertical edges
of the nose, but mounted with 1x1 headlight bricks so the blunt tip is entirely
concealed (I've included that in the LDR file as well), since the stud would
stick through the top of the slope otherwise.. All told, it should sit about
1mm short of the height of two plates.
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"Bryan Wong" <green_paper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:I2I154.1zz4@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > Take an ordinary 1x2 45 degree slope. (which is arguably a 1x1 brick • with a
> > prism on the side if you think about it) Now make it only 2 plates high
> > instead of 3... Change the 1x1 brick to 2 1x1 plates, and lowerg the • slope of
> > the prizm a bit to compensate. NOW (and this is the big change and the • reason
> > I said "half".... subtract the 2 1x1 plates worth of material so that • the
> > footprint is only 1x1 instead of 1x2. KEEP the prism but lose the flat • part.
> > It's JUST the slope part, no studs at all.
>
> So I guess it's like:
>
> <<http://ldraw.org/library/official/images/2/6191.png>>
>
> chopped in to 4 pieces, with a 45-degree-ish slope rather than the curve?
>
> -Bryan
I took this piece off of the BSNF (there are actually 10 of them, two orange
on the top of the cab, four orange and four green on the nose - see this
picture -
http://www.iltco.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album16&id=IMG_0095).
I believe the parts is only two plates high so it woul dnot be the same
angle as the standard 45 degree slope.
Mike
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Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring.com
http://www.ncltc.cc - North Carolina LEGO Train Club
http://www.carolinatrainbuilders.com - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=mpw - CTB/Brick Depot
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http://peach.mie.utoronto.ca/people/tsangc/nglcl/DSCN0887.jpg
I was looking at the pieces just to the right of the 1x1 transparent
cylindrical
plate that faces front as the light. [I'm guessing the 1x1 sticks into the
hole
of a 1x1 Technic brick, like the Santa Fe?] They look somewhat like the
angle/shape of the parts holding the number boards, as you've described
above.
But of course it's tough to get a true feel from just the picture, so maybe
that's another part/part combo.
The new 1x1 studless slope is in this model 10 times. 6 orange and 4 dark
green. Thanks Jake for confirming at 2:00 AM Sunday night. The number
board is made from 2 orange, and there are 2 orange on each side of the
headlight. Just below the headlight there are 4 dark green ones on either
side.
-Rob
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> It MAY be the same slope as a 45, I'm not sure.
I gave it a quick look, but it looked a bit less than a 45°. Maybe something
between the 33° and 45°? Either way, an exciting part.
Plus the friggin dark green.
(I gumpily walk away knowing I must now buy some.. ugh.. trains ;) )
-Lenyusan
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