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Subject: 
Re: Florida AFoL Fest? And Greater Mid West Area (was: West Coast Brick Fest - concerns and hopes)
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Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:16:55 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Robin Werner wrote:
In lugnet.events, Frank Filz wrote:
"James J. Trobaugh" wrote:

In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:
It makes alot of sense to have an event at each of the four corners of the USA.
The arrangment we had was perfect. VA, CA, WA. I want the Upper East Coast to
have one too in time. Having one event in each season and corner of the US.

This would mean one fest in each of the Four Seasons. One fest at each of the
four corners of the US. Cool Idea I hope.

Eric,


Hmm, looking at my trusty map, and considering the NE corner of the US
as Boston and the SE corner as Orlando (taking places that have known
centers of AFOLdom), then DC is closer to the NE corner. Let's see how
the quarters of the year stack out, assuming BW was to continue:

Jan-Mar: BricksWest, SW corner
Apr-Jun: available
Jul-Sep: BrickFest, NE corner
Oct-Dec: NW Brick Con, NW corner

Therefor, Orlando should organize a brick con in April, May, or June.
YUCK! A more ideal schedule would be:

I agree with you here... April-May hotel/airfare rates are high for spring break
Orlando area, but I bet Nov-Dec is not much better. All in all it's Orlando with
rooms-o-plenty, always a good deal!



Jan-Mar: SW corner (continue BricksWest)
Apr-Jun: NE corner (push BrickFest back into June where it started)
Jul-Sep: NW corner (pull NW Brick Con back into September)
Oct-Dec: SE corner (start a new brick con in Orlando)

Funny you should say Oct-Dec for a Florida event, I was thinking the same thing
today at work...

Right on, that's cool.

I "may" have access to a free large 2-4 room venue in the Tampa Bay Area the
weekend of Nov 28-30, 2003 (Nov 27 thru Dec 5 max)

See that! The guys in Florida Rock! I met people from Florida at Brick Fest, I
say to you guys! Make it happen! Florida has many great things to offer.
That's what is so great about America. Not to sound elitest, its just that each
state contributes to the Union, something we are proud about.



So here is ten thousand dollar question...
[[[[ Who would even think of coming to Florida for an event? ]]]]

I lived in the Key Biscane area for 2 years. We'll all chip in and rent a
Laborgini and take turns driving it to the Lego Store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need some names and numbers before I spend time planning or setting up an
event. Maybe it's too late for an event in Florida this year, but Nov 2004 could
work? Who knows, LIC could have pic-a-brick by then:)

I say when the time is right we should convene a counsel and discuss the
strengths and growth possiblilities to actually and trully make our Brick Fest /
Cons take off and become a true and unique Phenomena.


Also in a perfect world I see four US events a year with one of the four being
the main event for that year. The other three would be smaller, main event flag
would be past year to year to the other locations.

Right this is where Chicago and or Cleveland and or Mighigan could fit in.
The Uber show of Lego Fandom would happen every Third or Second time a year
round on a cycle.

So if the Major Clubs and People in the Florida and Mid West area can gear up,
just remember there could be a goal of having 4 fests, one at each season, and
the 5th and biggest show being every other year. Question is Who hosts this?

And for all else, please consider for some, that people in Chicago, Cleveland,
and the Mid West and elsewhere, feel that they have just as much to offer as to
where to host.

This is a good thing, something to work on.

All of us should be able to figure out what might be best.
What say you?

Could some of these groups help work towards this or, would any of you like to
offer your thoughts?

Do you think the idea of a Brick Fest/Con happening so that all seasons could
have an event to suit local Fans and potentials, plus the possiblitiy that a 5th
Largest could occur in one of your territories as the 5th Mighty Spur of the 5!
The biggest Show every 2nd year? This show would hopefully be embrased by the
Lego Company and they could be invited to partipate in the Largest show we have?
!!!

There is alot to move forward too. And some really cool possibilities!

Thoughts?

Eric Sophie

GardenSLUG
Lego Mecha Hall of Fame
Space-LUG-Mecha Combine -TBD-
Biomechanical Bricks



Let me know what you think?

Robin Werner
GFLUG/GFLTC

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Florida AFoL Fest? And Greater Mid West Area (was: West Coast Brick Fest - concerns and hopes)
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lugnet.events
Date: 
Wed, 13 Aug 2003 03:48:39 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:

Do you think the idea of a Brick Fest/Con happening so that all seasons could
have an event to suit local Fans and potentials, plus the possiblitiy that a 5th
Largest could occur in one of your territories as the 5th Mighty Spur of the 5!

Eric & All -
I just want to clear up that BrickFest(tm) is a trademark of Brick Events, LLC.
They're keen on not seeing their trademark diluted, and rightfully so - since
they've put in an incredible amount of effort over the past four years to build
up BrickFest(tm) to what it is today. Please respect that.

From what I know, the license of the name BrickFest(tm) to the PDX event is a
one-time deal, and future uses of the trademark will need to be approved for
each event. The very fact that they even considered this licensing shows a lot
of trust built up in those involved with the PDX event.

-Tim

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Florida AFoL Fest? And Greater Mid West Area (was: West Coast Brick Fest - concerns and hopes)
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lugnet.events
Date: 
Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:43:05 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Tim Courtney wrote:
In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote:

Do you think the idea of a Brick Fest/Con happening so that all seasons could
have an event to suit local Fans and potentials, plus the possiblitiy that a 5th
Largest could occur in one of your territories as the 5th Mighty Spur of the 5!

Eric & All -
I just want to clear up that BrickFest(tm) is a trademark of Brick Events, LLC.
They're keen on not seeing their trademark diluted, and rightfully so - since
they've put in an incredible amount of effort over the past four years to build
up BrickFest(tm) to what it is today. Please respect that.

From what I know, the license of the name BrickFest(tm) to the PDX event is a
one-time deal, and future uses of the trademark will need to be approved for
each event. The very fact that they even considered this licensing shows a lot
of trust built up in those involved with the PDX event.

-Tim

OMG - Please oh please tell me we are not going to go down this road again. This
is something that really irks me in such a major way its not even close to being
funny.

We are *very* aware of the (tm) and nobody is trying to hurt anybody, Maybe it
should be taken as a compliment people try to strive to reach the same level as
BF has.

And BTW, this is the *very* reason I was not happy with the BFPDX name – one
time shot or not.

*sigh*

I am very disappointed this has come up again, and know that since it has risen
it will probably not end for a long time and every other word on Lugnet will
have a (tm) thrown onto the end of it for a very, very long time. Not saying its
wrong or you have no right to do it – but I am saying its very annoying.

oh well, life shall continue(tm)

Mark P
http://www.landofbricks.com

Mark P

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: Florida AFoL Fest? And Greater Mid West Area (was: West Coast Brick Fest - concerns and hopes)
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lugnet.events
Date: 
Wed, 13 Aug 2003 05:15:01 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
In lugnet.events, Tim Courtney wrote:

Eric & All -
I just want to clear up that BrickFest(tm) is a trademark of Brick Events, LLC.
They're keen on not seeing their trademark diluted, and rightfully so - since
they've put in an incredible amount of effort over the past four years to build
up BrickFest(tm) to what it is today. Please respect that.

OMG - Please oh please tell me we are not going to go down this road again. This
is something that really irks me in such a major way its not even close to being
funny.

The only reason I mentioned it is I noted the way Eric was referencing generic
LEGO fan events as "BrickFest," and I had noted the quote below from this post:

http://news.lugnet.com/events/?n=927
I think every event should be called Brick Fest. Then sling the name of the
city next to it. Brick Fest, Brick Fest LLC, and let the NWBC is cool too.

Perhaps in hindsight I should have posted this note in direct response to that
quote.

We are *very* aware of the (tm) and nobody is trying to hurt anybody, Maybe it
should be taken as a compliment people try to strive to reach the same level as
BF has.

Yes, it should be taken as a compliment. But, an unfortunate side effect of our
legal system is we have to assert trademarks and ensure they don't get diluted,
so they can be protected. Hence LEGO's lawyers and the way they act towards our
use of the LEGO brand, too.

Not saying I like it, just saying it's the way it is. It's also playing nice to
respect other people's names they've built up - trademarked or not.

Again, not trying to drag the issue you are sensitive to up to be re-hashed.
Only issuing a friendly reminder.

-Tim

(I'm not a partner in Brick Events, LLC, but I'm a big fan of what they do. I'm
also very much in favor of seeing new fests start up and will support them
however I can - or at the very least in spirit - when they do.)

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Florida AFoL Fest? And Greater Mid West Area (was: West Coast Brick Fest - concerns and hopes)
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Date: 
Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:48:08 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Tim Courtney wrote:
From what I know, the license of the name BrickFest(tm) to the PDX event is a
one-time deal, and future uses of the trademark will need to be approved for
each event.

     Not to disparage anyone, but I feel that part of the character of a Con
comes from having a unique name.  I know with RPG/Comic Cons there's GenCon and
GenCon UK, and there's San Diego Comic-Con and Motor City Comic-Con, but think
of how boring it would be if we had GenCon Atlanta instead of DragonCon, GenCon
Los Angeles instead of OrcCon, or Chicago Comic-Con instead of Wizard World
Chicago.  Being the biggest Con of a genre means you should receive respect for
what you've acheived, not that everyone should try to clone your event (I mean,
how boring would it be if it was the exact same event held five times a year?).
Granted, things get a bit more limited when the prevailing theme is always going
to be "Bricks", but I think I've seen unrefutable proof that this is a group of
highly imaginative people.

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Florida AFoL Fest? And Greater Mid West Area (was: West Coast Brick Fest - concerns and hopes)
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lugnet.events
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Date: 
Wed, 13 Aug 2003 05:17:48 GMT
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Yes. Brickfest being over, you could have Lunch, or Dinner, or Snack, and so
forth. I guess this Portland one is a second Brickfest.

 

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