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Different kind of castle
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Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:04:56 GMT
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The Shogun parades before the masses with his swordsmen and spearmen.

I have been looking around and have not seen a MOC of a Japanese Castle,
the central donjon to be precise, and decided to spend a few days making one.
This is my very first full size building and probably the most ambitious
to date of anything I have done.

Details are it has a base of 40 x 40 studs and uses 3 Flying Ninja
Fortress sets (6093) and a bunch of whites & blacks from the blue tub (3033).
Technically the bottom rock foundation layer is not counted so it is a
3 tier donjon done in the traditional style.  My inspiration came from
having had the pleasure of visiting Himeji Castle in Himeji city, Japan,
in 1982 on a semester abroad program.  IMHO it is the most architecturally
beautiful castle in Japan and rivals most in the world.

This is version 1 but I figured if I waited till I could do it perfectly
then I would never show it to anyone.  Future work include making a 5 tier
donjon exactly in the style of Himeji and adding a front gate plus
surrounding walls.

The link is http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=191
Enjoy !

   
         
     
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:33:23 GMT
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I bow before you!

That's very beautiful. I haven't tried my hand in Oriental MOCs but I like and
appreciate them.
This is a great castle, I'd like to see your next (5 tier) tower and gate...
Also, is there an interior?

Keep up the good work!

-Shiri

In lugnet.castle, Kung-Khoon Quah writes:
The Shogun parades before the masses with his swordsmen and spearmen.

I have been looking around and have not seen a MOC of a Japanese Castle,
the central donjon to be precise, and decided to spend a few days making one.
This is my very first full size building and probably the most ambitious
to date of anything I have done.

Details are it has a base of 40 x 40 studs and uses 3 Flying Ninja
Fortress sets (6093) and a bunch of whites & blacks from the blue tub (3033).
Technically the bottom rock foundation layer is not counted so it is a
3 tier donjon done in the traditional style.  My inspiration came from
having had the pleasure of visiting Himeji Castle in Himeji city, Japan,
in 1982 on a semester abroad program.  IMHO it is the most architecturally
beautiful castle in Japan and rivals most in the world.

This is version 1 but I figured if I waited till I could do it perfectly
then I would never show it to anyone.  Future work include making a 5 tier
donjon exactly in the style of Himeji and adding a front gate plus
surrounding walls.

The link is http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=191
Enjoy !

    
          
     
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Date: 
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:43:00 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
I bow before you!

That's very beautiful. I haven't tried my hand in Oriental MOCs but I like and
appreciate them.
This is a great castle, I'd like to see your next (5 tier) tower and gate...
Also, is there an interior?
Keep up the good work!
-Shiri

Thanks for the kind words.  Following tradition I would have
to bow back before you.
As to your question, as a matter of fact there is an
interior to the castle which I confess is currently empty
space but with a few supporting columns.  One of the items on
the list to improve is to make the tiers modular so that I can
actually lift each off to view successive lower layers but
that's again version 2.  The current castle topmost layer does
come off easily but I built that at the last minute.  Will need
to re-engineer to do that for all the layers.
Also, did not know about the test area for the test link
I sent.   Thanks for the tip.

    
          
     
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Date: 
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:11:54 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Kung-Khoon Quah writes:
In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
I bow before you!

That's very beautiful. I haven't tried my hand in Oriental MOCs but I like and
appreciate them.
This is a great castle, I'd like to see your next (5 tier) tower and gate...
Also, is there an interior?
Keep up the good work!
-Shiri

Thanks for the kind words.  Following tradition I would have
to bow back before you.
As to your question, as a matter of fact there is an
interior to the castle which I confess is currently empty
space but with a few supporting columns.  One of the items on
the list to improve is to make the tiers modular so that I can
actually lift each off to view successive lower layers but
that's again version 2.  The current castle topmost layer does
come off easily but I built that at the last minute.  Will need
to re-engineer to do that for all the layers.
Also, did not know about the test area for the test link
I sent.   Thanks for the tip.


Finally another Ninja theme MOC.....I have been working on mine for a
year....I am ver impressed....lol

I am a fan of the Osaka castle I saw in a travel magazine ....I would love
to know of any historical links that have pictures of the castle you modeld
or of others.....

Your Castle is similar in design to what I have been working on...but your
execution of the sloped roof design is much better than mine...My design
seems to be a conglomeration of shinto and Chinese design....not
historically accurate; but I like it anyway.

My fortess has 4 levels....I didn't know it was a 3 or 5
scale...oops...gotta change that.

I have torn mine apart dozens of times trying to make a modular design....I
got caught up trying to design an interior...I finally have a tatame sliding
door design that I am happy with using plates and 1x2x1 thin wall
sections....the halls are narrow...but I am working on that...Trying to
maintain symmetry is a challenge... I have switched to a combination of
slopes and plates mounted on hinges to add texture to the roof on all 4
sides.  The other problem I have is integrating stairs to acess each level.

I am so happy that I am no longer alone in the "ninja" theme...

there is a Ninja theme link at Baylug that has amazing "practice mat"
designs for all 3 Ninja theme factions...

I have to finally buy a SONY mavica or some other Digital cam that works w/
my little web box to Post pictures....


Long story short....thanks for the pictures.... = )

    
          
     
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Date: 
Tue, 29 Feb 2000 01:25:05 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, John Robert Blaze Kanehl writes:
I am a fan of the Osaka castle I saw in a travel magazine ....I would love
to know of any historical links that have pictures of the castle you modeld
or of others.....

As for links I found the best way to get to the links is go to the
search engine http://www.google.com then search for "japanese castles"
And pay attention to the links which end in .jp.  Those are the best.
Lots of pics from pro and amateur photographers from Japan of castles.

My fortess has 4 levels....I didn't know it was a 3 or 5
scale...oops...gotta change that.

Not a commonly known fact. But an even number of tiers is considered bad
luck hence all central donjons (towers) are 3 or 5 tiers.

I have torn mine apart dozens of times trying to make a modular design....I
got caught up trying to design an interior...I finally have a tatame sliding
door design that I am happy with using plates and 1x2x1 thin wall
sections....the halls are narrow...but I am working on that...Trying to
maintain symmetry is a challenge... I have switched to a combination of
slopes and plates mounted on hinges to add texture to the roof on all 4
sides.  The other problem I have is integrating stairs to acess each level.

Looks like you have a better handle on the "interiors" than I do.
BTW, the outside of a donjon might be 3 tiers but the inside might have
4 levels.  It is not a one tier/one level situation.

I am so happy that I am no longer alone in the "ninja" theme...

I too am glad to know of you and Michael Hopkins of the superfortress
structure.

If you want to share your pics before the official post, I would love
to see them.  Just email me direct and we can compare notes.

   
         
     
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:17:08 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Kung-Khoon Quah writes:
The Shogun parades before the masses with his swordsmen and spearmen.
The link is http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=191

Indeed they do.  This is absolutely beautiful!

Cheers,
- jsproat

   
         
     
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:39:55 GMT
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Very nice!  Love the design!

In fairness to the sub-theme, there *is* another terrific Ninja MOC site,
with a large enclosed Ninja stronghold.  To my consternation, I cannot find
it in my links -- if anyone knows the site I'm talking about, please speak
up. :)

--


Paul Davidson, aka Tinman
www.theforce.net |  Your Daily Dose of Star Wars
www.filmforce.net |  Your Daily Dose of Film News


KK Quah <kquah1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:FqM2s8.LLp@lugnet.com...
The Shogun parades before the masses with his swordsmen and spearmen.

I have been looking around and have not seen a MOC of a Japanese Castle,
the central donjon to be precise, and decided to spend a few days making • one.
This is my very first full size building and probably the most ambitious
to date of anything I have done.

Details are it has a base of 40 x 40 studs and uses 3 Flying Ninja
Fortress sets (6093) and a bunch of whites & blacks from the blue tub • (3033).
Technically the bottom rock foundation layer is not counted so it is a
3 tier donjon done in the traditional style.  My inspiration came from
having had the pleasure of visiting Himeji Castle in Himeji city, Japan,
in 1982 on a semester abroad program.  IMHO it is the most architecturally
beautiful castle in Japan and rivals most in the world.

This is version 1 but I figured if I waited till I could do it perfectly
then I would never show it to anyone.  Future work include making a 5 tier
donjon exactly in the style of Himeji and adding a front gate plus
surrounding walls.

The link is http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=191
Enjoy !

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: Different kind of castle
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Date: 
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:30:57 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Paul Davidson writes:
In fairness to the sub-theme, there *is* another terrific Ninja MOC site,
with a large enclosed Ninja stronghold.  To my consternation, I cannot find
it in my links -- if anyone knows the site I'm talking about, please speak
up. :)

That would be Michael Hopkins' Ninja Superfortress.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3217/Lego/Ninja.html

The castle I'm working on right now is more along the lines of an English-style
castle with Ninja elements than a truly authentic Japanese castle, but I'm
learning what the samurai castle layouts actually were.

    
          
     
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:47:43 GMT
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That would be Michael Hopkins' Ninja Superfortress.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3217/Lego/Ninja.html

Thanks for the plug. There is a better address that I keep more current:

http://www.baylug.org/ninja/

-Michael

   
         
   
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Re: Different kind of castle
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Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:45:41 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Kung-Khoon Quah writes:
The Shogun parades before the masses with his swordsmen and spearmen.

I have been looking around and have not seen a MOC of a Japanese Castle,
the central donjon to be precise, and decided to spend a few days making one.
This is my very first full size building and probably the most ambitious
to date of anything I have done.

Very nice, Kung-Khoon! Your castle reminds me quite a bit of Odowara castle.
See my pictures of the real structure at:
<http://www.baylug.org/ninja/history2.html>

Makes we want to start working on my Japanese Castles again. It's been a while
since I've done any building on them.

Keep up the good work. I look forward to seeing a 5 story version.

-Michael

http://www.baylug.org/ninja/

 

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