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smoochie:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/ManorHouse/m06.jpg
loogie:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
building notes:
so here is little crackhead lenny surfing the net and he finds this cool
picture of a medieval manor house and he says to himself that he could build
that, given he had the ruby of sulifar, so he went and passed through the
forest of zelkin, over the mountains of darkness, through the desert of dead
man's crossing, ate the dessert of sorrow, and came upon the castle of two
headed pigeons. therein he killed the snake-beast of fanin, the wolf-beast
of broken windows, and the dragon of sulifar. upon which, doing all this,
he was tired, rested for a bit, and then went to visit the busty elfin
princess faewen, who gave him the sacred smooch of eternal inspiration,
which he wasted on building a lego house from a picture he found on the
internet.
however our hero didn't get the ruby of sulifar, having misunderstood that
the dragon of sulifar didn't have the ruby, the two sulifars were totally
unrelated. because of this he used almost every blue roof piece he had, and
he had many from owning four copies of 3739. also he was reduced to
pointing out that it looks better in real life and he may consider lugging
the whole thing to brickfest, if his wife lets him.
and the the busty elfin princess faewen recanted the story of our hero's
made up history to go with the house, but it was all forgotten except that
it was the family home of House Teyrnon. Who cares? well faewen pointed out
that House Teyrnon may be characters in glencaer's continuing epic of
mystery, Warriors' Way.
oh yeah, and see the picture of the crackhead himself.
-Lenny
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman writes:
> smoochie:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/ManorHouse/m06.jpg
> loogie:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
A very nice creation you have there. The shape and colors are great.
Something about that blue roof with the read windows is neat. The interior
details are good too.
-Jason
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Hey Lenny,
Very cool. I was holding my breath, waiting for these pictures, so I am
glad you got them up so fast. The interior is well done (not rare, medium
rare, etc). And I especially like how the house unfolds. That was truly
inspired (the elf maids smooch must have worked!) :)
Josh
In lugnet.castle, Leonard Hoffman writes:
> smoochie:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/ManorHouse/m06.jpg
> loogie:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
>
> building notes:
> so here is little crackhead lenny surfing the net and he finds this cool
> picture of a medieval manor house and he says to himself that he could build
> that, given he had the ruby of sulifar, so he went and passed through the
> forest of zelkin, over the mountains of darkness, through the desert of dead
> man's crossing, ate the dessert of sorrow, and came upon the castle of two
> headed pigeons. therein he killed the snake-beast of fanin, the wolf-beast
> of broken windows, and the dragon of sulifar. upon which, doing all this,
> he was tired, rested for a bit, and then went to visit the busty elfin
> princess faewen, who gave him the sacred smooch of eternal inspiration,
> which he wasted on building a lego house from a picture he found on the
> internet.
>
> however our hero didn't get the ruby of sulifar, having misunderstood that
> the dragon of sulifar didn't have the ruby, the two sulifars were totally
> unrelated. because of this he used almost every blue roof piece he had, and
> he had many from owning four copies of 3739. also he was reduced to
> pointing out that it looks better in real life and he may consider lugging
> the whole thing to brickfest, if his wife lets him.
>
> and the the busty elfin princess faewen recanted the story of our hero's
> made up history to go with the house, but it was all forgotten except that
> it was the family home of House Teyrnon. Who cares? well faewen pointed out
> that House Teyrnon may be characters in glencaer's continuing epic of
> mystery, Warriors' Way.
>
> oh yeah, and see the picture of the crackhead himself.
> -Lenny
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In lugnet.castle, Josh Wedin writes:
> Hey Lenny,
>
> Very cool. I was holding my breath, waiting for these pictures, so I am
> glad you got them up so fast. The interior is well done (not rare, medium
> rare, etc). And I especially like how the house unfolds. That was truly
> inspired (the elf maids smooch must have worked!) :)
elf maid smooches always do. ;o)
thanks for kind words, as always!
vive le crackhead
-lenny
> In lugnet.castle, Leonard Hoffman writes:
> > smoochie:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/ManorHouse/m06.jpg
> > loogie:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
> >
> > building notes:
> > so here is little crackhead lenny surfing the net and he finds this cool
> > picture of a medieval manor house and he says to himself that he could build
> > that, given he had the ruby of sulifar, so he went and passed through the
> > forest of zelkin, over the mountains of darkness, through the desert of dead
> > man's crossing, ate the dessert of sorrow, and came upon the castle of two
> > headed pigeons. therein he killed the snake-beast of fanin, the wolf-beast
> > of broken windows, and the dragon of sulifar. upon which, doing all this,
> > he was tired, rested for a bit, and then went to visit the busty elfin
> > princess faewen, who gave him the sacred smooch of eternal inspiration,
> > which he wasted on building a lego house from a picture he found on the
> > internet.
> >
> > however our hero didn't get the ruby of sulifar, having misunderstood that
> > the dragon of sulifar didn't have the ruby, the two sulifars were totally
> > unrelated. because of this he used almost every blue roof piece he had, and
> > he had many from owning four copies of 3739. also he was reduced to
> > pointing out that it looks better in real life and he may consider lugging
> > the whole thing to brickfest, if his wife lets him.
> >
> > and the the busty elfin princess faewen recanted the story of our hero's
> > made up history to go with the house, but it was all forgotten except that
> > it was the family home of House Teyrnon. Who cares? well faewen pointed out
> > that House Teyrnon may be characters in glencaer's continuing epic of
> > mystery, Warriors' Way.
> >
> > oh yeah, and see the picture of the crackhead himself.
> > -Lenny
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Hi Leonard,
leonard hoffman wrote:
> loogie:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
That's a cool creation!
I like the way it opens up in several different ways, especially
the use of apex roof bricks in one part is a smart solution.
Whenever I try to build a structure that folds open, I find
that it somehow doesn't work and tear the contraption apart.
I also like the picture of you giving birth to your creation out
of your crackhead. :-) If I remember well one of the Olympian
gods also had the custom the give birth out of his head. Was
that Zeus?
Regards, Twan.
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> leonard hoffman wrote:
> > loogie:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
>
> That's a cool creation!
why thank you good sir!
> I like the way it opens up in several different ways, especially
> the use of apex roof bricks in one part is a smart solution.
> Whenever I try to build a structure that folds open, I find
> that it somehow doesn't work and tear the contraption apart.
the apex roof concept was shamelessly stolen from dan siskind, the "l-g-k" of
castle lego. i find it is a really cool way to avoid having to put a "tile
layer" like i did with the workroom:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374863
I love having things open up, but I'll admit it is hard. there are all sorts of
problems that come out of nowhere easily, such as maintaining structural
integrity and also having it all still look seamless. but it's part of what i
love when building these things (the other being interior details.. so tedious
yet so rewarding)
> I also like the picture of you giving birth to your creation out
> of your crackhead. :-) If I remember well one of the Olympian
> gods also had the custom the give birth out of his head. Was
> that Zeus?
zeus had this big headache one day, so he had hephestus (sp) give a smack to
his head with a hammer, and out sprung athena, the goddess of war and wisdom.
i think of this story and am reminded of that famous line from _Kindergarden
Cop_ : "it's not a tumor!"
vive le crackhead
-lenny
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Hi Leonard,
"leonard hoffman" <glencaer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HDE31s.18Ks@lugnet.com...
>
> > I like the way it opens up in several different ways, especially
> > the use of apex roof bricks in one part is a smart solution.
> > Whenever I try to build a structure that folds open, I find
> > that it somehow doesn't work and tear the contraption apart.
>
> the apex roof concept was shamelessly stolen from dan siskind, the
> "l-g-k" of castle lego. i find it is a really cool way to avoid • having to
> put a "tile layer" like i did with the workroom:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374863
Indeed, using the apex roof is an elegant solution to this problem,
I appreciate it.
A solution for the using a tile layer I tried was to include a layer
of
plates between every layer of roof bricks. But the resulting roof
was at best mildly pleasing to the eye, and I got a very steep roof.
Using it with 33 degree slopes, to make it less steep, looked even
more funky. Not convincing at all.
When trying to use hinges in the other, perpendicular direction
there are always problems with an overhang or protruding roof.
The standard solution seems to be to use the hinges in a chimney,
Blacksmith Shop like. But this results in fireplace splitting in two,
which I don't like. But then again, easy for me to criticize, but I
don't have better solutions myself.
I don't know what "l-g-k" stands for. Some guesses are "Lego-
geek-king" or maybe "legitimite-grand-knight"? :-)
Anyway, I'm aware of Dan Siskind's deserved reputation.
> I love having things open up, but I'll admit it is hard. there are
> all sorts of problems that come out of nowhere easily, such as
> maintaining structural integrity and also having it all still look
> seamless. but it's part of what i love when building these things
> (the other being interior details.. so tedious yet so rewarding)
OK, OK, I'm convinced ;-)
I decided to add interior into my next MOC. But I'll make it
accessible by using different modules connected with technic
bricks and pegs and removable roofs.
> zeus had this big headache one day, so he had hephestus (sp)
> give a smack to his head with a hammer, and out sprung
> athena, the goddess of war and wisdom.
That one goes into the category "don't try this at home kids" :-)
> vive le crackhead
'ooray pour la tête du craque, Twan.
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In lugnet.castle, Twan Theeuwen writes:
> Hi Leonard,
>
> "leonard hoffman" <glencaer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HDE31s.18Ks@lugnet.com...
> >
> > > I like the way it opens up in several different ways, especially
> > > the use of apex roof bricks in one part is a smart solution.
> > > Whenever I try to build a structure that folds open, I find
> > > that it somehow doesn't work and tear the contraption apart.
> >
> > the apex roof concept was shamelessly stolen from dan siskind, the
> > "l-g-k" of castle lego. i find it is a really cool way to avoid • having to
> > put a "tile layer" like i did with the workroom:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374863
>
> Indeed, using the apex roof is an elegant solution to this problem,
> I appreciate it.
the problem with the apex roof solution is here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374863
if you look closely, you'll see that you can see the edge of the apexes, which
means the solution can only be best used when both edges of the roof are
covered by something (another wall or whatever).
> A solution for the using a tile layer I tried was to include a layer
> of
> plates between every layer of roof bricks. But the resulting roof
> was at best mildly pleasing to the eye, and I got a very steep roof.
> Using it with 33 degree slopes, to make it less steep, looked even
> more funky. Not convincing at all.
>
> When trying to use hinges in the other, perpendicular direction
> there are always problems with an overhang or protruding roof.
> The standard solution seems to be to use the hinges in a chimney,
> Blacksmith Shop like. But this results in fireplace splitting in two,
> which I don't like. But then again, easy for me to criticize, but I
> don't have better solutions myself.
spliting the fireplace really bugs me too, especially in the Blacksmith Shop,
because it is such a cool fireplace! you can only see it by shining a
flashlight (or torch) into a window and looking through.
my solution to that is this:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374870
have the fireplace itself offset from the chimney by a stud or two, thus
keeping the fireplace in tact and still use the chimney as the hinge.
But the chief problem with the chimney solution is that you can't be creative
with where you put your chimneys! they HAVE to go on the divide, and I think
that can be kinda frustrating.
> I don't know what "l-g-k" stands for. Some guesses are "Lego-
> geek-king" or maybe "legitimite-grand-knight"? :-)
> Anyway, I'm aware of Dan Siskind's deserved reputation.
I used it meaning "Lord-God-King", which is what I'd proclaim myself if I
became ruler of the world. 'Furher', 'El Duce', 'Caesar', and 'Emperor' all
seem to miss the real point that Lord-God-King really hits home.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302864
But "Lego-Geek-King" fits exceedingly well in this situation.
==
And Since we're talking about hinge solutions, one I've recently stolen from
Jon Furman is what I'd call the "high and low" hinge solution.
here: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=376139
and here: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=360471
You only put a hinge (a small one, like a plate hinge) at the bottom and the
top. it is small so people tend not to notice it as much, but still gets the
job done. furthermore, you can have it extend out to the roof's edge, thus
also allowing the roof overhang. it works best with tudor style, because you
are using the black plates anyway.
my biggest problem with it is the the building isn't very stable during the
construction, and clutzy people like me will prolly have to rebuild different
sections alot.
My favorite part of this problem is that there are several solutions, but each
has its own problems and weaknesses.. which means that there is still room to
actively figure out new solutions and push forward lego castle building!
> OK, OK, I'm convinced ;-)
> I decided to add interior into my next MOC. But I'll make it
> accessible by using different modules connected with technic
> bricks and pegs and removable roofs.
can't wait to see! removable roofs have their own list of problems and
solutions...
>
> > zeus had this big headache one day, so he had hephestus (sp)
> > give a smack to his head with a hammer, and out sprung
> > athena, the goddess of war and wisdom.
>
> That one goes into the category "don't try this at home kids" :-)
>
> > vive le crackhead
>
> 'ooray pour la tête du craque, Twan.
dime lo, -lenstarakhan
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Hi Leonard,
"leonard hoffman" wrote:
> the problem with the apex roof solution is here:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374863
> if you look closely, you'll see that you can see the edge of
> the apexes, which means the solution can only be best used
> when both edges of the roof are covered by something
> (another wall or whatever).
For example a Dutch golden century era facade. And guess
in what mode of building I find myself lately?
> spliting the fireplace really bugs me too, especially in the
> Blacksmith Shop, because it is such a cool fireplace! you
> can only see it by shining a flashlight (or torch) into a window
> and looking through.
Agreed that this is a fine fireplace. I rebuilt it once without the
surrounding structure to properly see what it looks like
unsplitted. This is something I do occasionally when I see
interesting details in a MOC.
> > I don't know what "l-g-k" stands for.
>
> I used it meaning "Lord-God-King", which is what I'd proclaim
> myself if I became ruler of the world.
In that case I'd assign myself Twan-like properties to
communicate my personal grandiosity. And I'd also use
plural when referring to myself, like in: "we Twannemanus,
Twantastic ruler of life, the universe and everything, are
declaring this to be a cool MOC." (Pluralis Twanistatis)
However, when I show my true greatness people tend
to confuse this for narcissism rather than Twanism. Weird.
> 'Furher', 'El Duce', 'Caesar', and 'Emperor' all
> seem to miss the real point that Lord-God-King really hits home.
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=302864
Great!!!
This reminds me of the good old days when men were still
real men, women real women and fleebnorks real fleebnorks.
> And Since we're talking about hinge solutions, one I've recently
> stolen from Jon Furman is what I'd call the "high and low" hinge
> solution.
> here: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=376139
> and here: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=360471
I already noticed you using this in your Peasant's Hut and thought
it a cunning solution. Didn't recognize its origin though.
My intuition would be that it would seem a clumsy solution,
especially were the hinge would seem to lay on the floor. But
both you and Jon Furman have shown that it can work out
just fine.
> it works best with tudor style, because you
> are using the black plates anyway.
Might also work (non tudor style) with a green hinge plate
on the bottom. Maybe combined with some foliage thingy.
> my biggest problem with it is the the building isn't very stable
> during the construction, and clutzy people like me will prolly
> have to rebuild different sections alot.
That's the same for me, but this is where using Lego bricks
proves handy. Might I want to make model buildings with
paper, cardboard and glue, I'd probably end up with a sticky
ball of paper. Not to mention using wood or metal where
dangerous tools like saws are needed. That would be a sure
scenario for some serious self-mutilation. No, Lego bricks
are ideal for me.
> My favorite part of this problem is that there are several
> solutions, but each has its own problems and weaknesses..
Which makes Lego an educational toy for kids in the first
place. With all its limitations Lego forces you towards making
trade-offs and compromises, which is a difficult ability to
learn or educate. And as a lot of AFOLs prove on a daily
basis, it provides enough challenge to remain fun and
interesting way beyond childhood.
> which means that there is still room to actively figure out
> new solutions and push forward lego castle building!
Sure, I'm convinced there's plenty ground yet to cover.
Seems to me that in the post I'm currently replying to you
pretty well gave a comprehensive overview of currently
available methods for using hinges to make interiors
accessible. With only minor editing to this post you'd
get a "how to use hinges to make interiors accessible"
file in the style of open source HOWTO files.
I imagine that several other subjects have already passed
the revue. (E.g. how to build a roof, a painted window,
a draw bridge, tudor style etc.)
Anybody ever considered (or does there already exist)
a repository of some sort for these? Seems a valuable
resource for castle building to me.
> > OK, OK, I'm convinced ;-)
> > I decided to add interior into my next MOC. But I'll make it
> > accessible by using different modules connected with technic
> > bricks and pegs and removable roofs.
>
> can't wait to see! removable roofs have their own list of
> problems and solutions...
Currently I'm working on a roman style church and I think I've
got the roofs worked out. The regular roofs are plates on hinges.
There is a round part in the back with a roof made of rectangular
and triangular plates stacked on each other, sculpture like. This
one in not removable. I'm using wing plates on hinges for the
pointy roofs on top of the towers. The hinged plates go on
horizontal plates that fit on a layer of tiles, pretty straightforward
really.
But I've still a lot of details to be worked out, so please don't
hold your breath.
Regards, Twan.
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Lenny,
Great house. Your use of arches on the interior adds a lot to the overall
structure. I like the design of the living room chairs, although I'd prefer
benches for the dining room (personal preference). Overall the place looks
great! You should post it to mocpages, I'm sure it would get 5 smiley
ratings.
One request. Could you add a picture of the overall manor from the outside
that shows where the bedroom, dining room, library, etc. are located? This
would give us much better perspective as to how it all fits together.
-Aaron
"leonard hoffman" <glencaer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HDAHIt.1JMD@lugnet.com...
> smoochie:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/ManorHouse/m06.jpg
> loogie:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
>
> building notes:
> so here is little crackhead lenny surfing the net and he finds this cool
> picture of a medieval manor house and he says to himself that he could • build
> that, given he had the ruby of sulifar, so he went and passed through the
> forest of zelkin, over the mountains of darkness, through the desert of • dead
> man's crossing, ate the dessert of sorrow, and came upon the castle of two
> headed pigeons. therein he killed the snake-beast of fanin, the • wolf-beast
> of broken windows, and the dragon of sulifar. upon which, doing all this,
> he was tired, rested for a bit, and then went to visit the busty elfin
> princess faewen, who gave him the sacred smooch of eternal inspiration,
> which he wasted on building a lego house from a picture he found on the
> internet.
>
> however our hero didn't get the ruby of sulifar, having misunderstood that
> the dragon of sulifar didn't have the ruby, the two sulifars were totally
> unrelated. because of this he used almost every blue roof piece he had, • and
> he had many from owning four copies of 3739. also he was reduced to
> pointing out that it looks better in real life and he may consider lugging
> the whole thing to brickfest, if his wife lets him.
>
> and the the busty elfin princess faewen recanted the story of our hero's
> made up history to go with the house, but it was all forgotten except that
> it was the family home of House Teyrnon. Who cares? well faewen pointed • out
> that House Teyrnon may be characters in glencaer's continuing epic of
> mystery, Warriors' Way.
>
> oh yeah, and see the picture of the crackhead himself.
> -Lenny
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> Great house. Your use of arches on the interior adds a lot to the overall
> structure. I like the design of the living room chairs, although I'd prefer
> benches for the dining room (personal preference). Overall the place looks
> great! You should post it to mocpages, I'm sure it would get 5 smiley
> ratings.
why thanks for the kind words Mr. Muhl. I may do that.
> One request. Could you add a picture of the overall manor from the outside
> that shows where the bedroom, dining room, library, etc. are located? This
> would give us much better perspective as to how it all fits together.
here's one pic:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374862
upstairs left: library
upstairs right: bedroom
downstairs left: living room
downstairs mid-left: dining room
downstairs mid-right: foyer
downstairs right: workroom
hope that makes sense.. if it doesn't i'll mock up a picture with the areas
labeled.
-lenny
> "leonard hoffman" <glencaer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HDAHIt.1JMD@lugnet.com...
> > smoochie:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/ManorHouse/m06.jpg
> > loogie:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
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That helps a lot; thanks. Very cool how it all fits together.
-Aaron
"leonard hoffman" <glencaer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HDE2nu.16vL@lugnet.com...
> > Great house. Your use of arches on the interior adds a lot to the • overall
> > structure. I like the design of the living room chairs, although I'd • prefer
> > benches for the dining room (personal preference). Overall the place • looks
> > great! You should post it to mocpages, I'm sure it would get 5 smiley
> > ratings.
>
> why thanks for the kind words Mr. Muhl. I may do that.
>
> > One request. Could you add a picture of the overall manor from the • outside
> > that shows where the bedroom, dining room, library, etc. are located? • This
> > would give us much better perspective as to how it all fits together.
>
> here's one pic:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=374862
> upstairs left: library
> upstairs right: bedroom
> downstairs left: living room
> downstairs mid-left: dining room
> downstairs mid-right: foyer
> downstairs right: workroom
>
> hope that makes sense.. if it doesn't i'll mock up a picture with the • areas
> labeled.
>
> -lenny
>
> > "leonard hoffman" <glencaer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:HDAHIt.1JMD@lugnet.com...
> > > smoochie:
> > > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/ManorHouse/m06.jpg
> > > loogie:
> > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=39964
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