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Please don't quit. I hate being negative about my future, but I doubt the mac
will get much attention from TLG. Especially with OS X. LDGLite is one of two
choices for the mac (the other being BrickDraw3D).
James
In lugnet.cad, Don Heyse writes:
> So is that what the "CAD summit" is all about? I too wish they would
> just come out and say it. Everyone on the lugnet.cad groups seem to
> have been censored by NDAs. I was planning to add a large format tiled
> rendering option to ldglite this weekend, but with all the mystery I
> just couldn't find the motivation. Who wants to sweat over something
> that's about to be obsoleted?
>
> Given the history of these NDAs, I suspect it'll be months before any
> of the details are revealed. I just hope I don't lose all motivation
> by then.
>
> Don
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"James Reynolds" <james.e.reynolds@m.cc.utah.edu> wrote in message
news:G8pBrL.J6n@lugnet.com...
> Please don't quit. I hate being negative about my future, but I doubt the mac
> will get much attention from TLG. Especially with OS X. LDGLite is one of • two
> choices for the mac (the other being BrickDraw3D).
> James
That goes to everybody. Please don't quit. This stuff (DAT) is NOT becoming
obsolete.
-Tim
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In lugnet.cad, Tim Courtney wrote:
> "James Reynolds" <james.e.reynolds@m.cc.utah.edu> wrote in message
> news:G8pBrL.J6n@lugnet.com...
> > Please don't quit. I hate being negative about my future, but I doubt the mac
> > will get much attention from TLG. Especially with OS X. LDGLite is one of • two
> > choices for the mac (the other being BrickDraw3D).
> > James
>
> That goes to everybody. Please don't quit. This stuff (DAT) is NOT becoming
> obsolete.
That's kind of funny -- DAT was really obsolete before it was created. It
was never a cutting-edge graphics description language.
The main asset of the "DAT Format" is the LDraw parts library. Excepting
maybe whatever element-resource is used by the building instruction people
in LEGO, I believe the LDraw library is the largest collection of LEGO
elements.
Steve
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In lugnet.cad, Steve Bliss writes:
> That's kind of funny -- DAT was really obsolete before it was created. It
> was never a cutting-edge graphics description language.
Agreed. It is 2.5 D rather than a 3 D solid modeling lang. That's prolly why
noone has done any really nifty shape bashing stuff like calculating
interferences...
> The main asset of the "DAT Format" is the LDraw parts library. Excepting
> maybe whatever element-resource is used by the building instruction people
> in LEGO, I believe the LDraw library is the largest collection of LEGO
> elements.
No I believe Conan's collection is the largest collection of LEGO elements.
(oh, you mean *different* elements :-) and modeled, too ) <GD&R>
++Lar
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In lugnet.cad, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Steve Bliss writes:
>
> > The main asset of the "DAT Format" is the LDraw parts library. Excepting
> > maybe whatever element-resource is used by the building instruction people
> > in LEGO, I believe the LDraw library is the largest collection of LEGO
> > elements.
>
> No I believe Conan's collection is the largest collection of LEGO elements.
> (oh, you mean *different* elements :-) and modeled, too ) <GD&R>
Sorry, should have said "largest collection of LEGO element descriptions".
Steve
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In lugnet.cad, James Reynolds writes:
> Please don't quit. I hate being negative about my future, but I doubt the mac
> will get much attention from TLG. Especially with OS X. LDGLite is one of two
> choices for the mac (the other being BrickDraw3D).
> James
Speaking of which is there a need for an update to the Mac binary for Ldglite?
I'm not *totally* absorbed by BrickDraw3D.
+++
BrickDraw3D will become a full-fledged editor application in the coming
months. I'm preparing it for Mac OS X too. There'll be a release this
weekend with some basic model creation ability. The big hurdles are: writing
out DAT files to match what came in
(no information loss), and organizing a parts palette!
+++
Lego's perception is that the Mac market is too small to add to their bottom
line. They are willing to put out a Mac product for the early early market
like Lego My Style (age: 4) but MacAddict says this product bores 4 year
olds. Too bad. From what I've seen, Creator is a product that does have
appeal (Marketed for Age 6 and up) but we're not gonna get it.
I'm not going to let my kids play with computers at that young an age, but I
digress.
-Erik
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In lugnet.cad, Erik Olson writes:
> Speaking of which is there a need for an update to the Mac binary for Ldglite?
> I'm not *totally* absorbed by BrickDraw3D.
Hey, that would be great. I've added/ported quite a few nice features
to ldglite since it was last compiled for the Mac. The cheesy file open
dialog (in the GLUT menu) may require a bit of work for the Mac filesystem.
I should probably clean up dirscan.c. It's a bit of a mess right now...
The gamemode stuff may also be a problem. Depends on how up to date the
Mac version of GLUT is.
> Lego's perception is that the Mac market is too small to add to their bottom
> line. They are willing to put out a Mac product for the early early market
> like Lego My Style (age: 4) but MacAddict says this product bores 4 year
> olds. Too bad. From what I've seen, Creator is a product that does have
> appeal (Marketed for Age 6 and up) but we're not gonna get it.
Don't get too excited about Creator. My kids were bored with it after
about 10 minutes. The little motorcycle set that came with it got much
more playtime.
Have fun,
Don
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam.go.away.com> wrote in message
news:G8pFLr.5HB@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.cad, Erik Olson writes:
> > Speaking of which is there a need for an update to the Mac binary for • Ldglite?
> > I'm not *totally* absorbed by BrickDraw3D.
>
> Hey, that would be great. I've added/ported quite a few nice features
> to ldglite since it was last compiled for the Mac. The cheesy file open
> dialog (in the GLUT menu) may require a bit of work for the Mac filesystem.
> I should probably clean up dirscan.c. It's a bit of a mess right now...
>
> The gamemode stuff may also be a problem. Depends on how up to date the
> Mac version of GLUT is.
>
> > Lego's perception is that the Mac market is too small to add to their bottom
> > line. They are willing to put out a Mac product for the early early market
> > like Lego My Style (age: 4) but MacAddict says this product bores 4 year
> > olds. Too bad. From what I've seen, Creator is a product that does have
> > appeal (Marketed for Age 6 and up) but we're not gonna get it.
>
> Don't get too excited about Creator. My kids were bored with it after
> about 10 minutes. The little motorcycle set that came with it got much
> more playtime.
I think Erik was referring to Creator II: Knight's Kingdom. That's a lot cooler
:-) Even though Creator 1 was cheesy IMO, I enjoyed blowing up stuff with the
dynamite bricks...that got hours of playtime. Anyways, for AFOLs, Creator will
never cut it. That's why we write our own stuff.
-Tim
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