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Re: New Lego Exoforce
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Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:35:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tobias Möller wrote:
   (Posting to both .mecha and .debate now, since the post contains the L-word, but it’s actually more of a .debate topic... follow-up as you see fit)

Another thing I wanted to comment on in my previous reply, but forgot to include because I was busy constructing a long sentence declaring how awful I found those little robots, was the abundance of weapons in these new sets. (by the way, it’s the metallic plastic, not the design itself, which IMO makes the minibots seem awful)

In the past, LEGO was quoted as saying something like “we will never make sets with modern weapons of war” (thus excluding things like the Western rifles or Pirate guns). Machine guns and rockets seem, to me, to break that “rule”, and I don’t really like it.

LEGO has a history of making “peaceful” toys, and that is something I (and I believe many others) have valued. To see them finally give in to some sort of “demand” of violent toys is a bit sad. (I don’t consider things like police stations - which obviously exist only because there are criminals in the LEGO cities - to be “violent” in the same way as a rocket launcher)

On the other hand, I myself and countless others have built realistic weapons out of LEGO, and I have never seen anything wrong with that. I have drooled over some of the really awesome mechas and spaceships armed with huge, detailed weapons. But then it’s the fans doing it, not the company itself.

I guess it just felt good to know that at least one company stood up and had a more peaceful message than most other.

Any comments?

-- Tobias

I agree 100% with you Tobias.

I am greatly disappointed that LEGO is caving in and selling toys that resemble modern weaponry.

Some will think that I am a hypocrite for saying that, as I myself build nothing but military-themed creations.

Nevertheless, as you said, Tobias, there’s a difference between what the fan does and what the company does.

Also, another reason why this bothers me is because it takes the challenge out of building military models. The day that LEGO starts making parts that look like 120mm Rheinmetall cannons, or 20mm Vulcan gatling guns is the day that I stop building military models.

I just love all the new uses LEGO builders (especially over at build.mecha and .space) have found for relatively mundane LEGO parts. Kotaro Ono’s guns, made entirely of minifig tools and equipment, led me, like others, to re-examine what was possible with parts. Subsequently, I came up with stuff like this, composed entirely of minifig tools.

It’s this kind of creativity that will be lost once LEGO starts churning out 1-piece, molded M16s and AK47s.

Hopefully it’ll never come to that. I sincerely hope TLG sticks to non-military models.

Mladen Pejic



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  Re: New Lego Exoforce
 
(...) Hey, that's pretty nifty. I'm curious, though--why did you go with the odd-color minifig hand rather than a black one? Dave! (18 years ago, 30-Dec-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
  Re: New Lego Exoforce
 
(...) Mladen, Tobias, I fully concur. (And I was wondering when such a post would surface... ;-) I first saw the Stealth Hunter on the back of the (latest?) LEGO Magazine a couple weeks back. I was quite amazed and in awe: I thought to myself, "That (...) (18 years ago, 31-Dec-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX) ! 
  Re: New Lego Exoforce
 
There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every 12 people on the planet. The only question is: how do we arm the other 11? --- Yuri Orlov / LORD OF WAR Hello friends. I have almost same impression for the (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)

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  New Lego Exoforce
 
Hello mecha friends. I have not seen anyone from build.mecha (forgive me if someone did and I missed it) talk about the new theme. I am digging a lot of the parts used but I am not sure about the minifigs and the design. I am not pro or against it (...) (18 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)

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