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Bram Lambrecht wrote in message ...
> Jon Palmer writes:
> >
> > Heyyyyy. I always thought the Aero Module was a sleek little ship.
> > I'm oddly offended... : (
That's OK, I'm just as amused by the choice of what _wasn't_ ugly... but
then my tastes in Classic Space are probably pretty strange.
> > -Jon
>
> Heh, I have 3 of those (all gifts from childhood....so some people must • have
> thought it was a pretty cool set.)
What? You mean adults have good taste in Lego sets?!? Surely not...
;-)
Cheers,
Paul
LUGNET member 164
http://www.geocities.com/doctorshnub/
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Mark Sandlin wrote in message ...
>
> Dang it Todd.
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1775
>
> It's a Variation on a theme. What you'd get if you "upgraded" the Starfleet
> Voyager.
D'OHHH!! *bangs head against monitor*
I just _knew_ that someone was gunna beat me to this! And I had the
Starfleet Voyager luxury model all worked out... *sigh*
Great model, Mark!
Cheers,
Paul
LUGNET member 164
http://www.geocities.com/doctorshnub/
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I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot in
my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.
It's seeming more and more like the LEGO Space System product line (originally
LEGOLAND Space, followed by Blacktron, Futuron, Space Police, etc.) is dead --
and probably won't come back -- having been replaced by Star Wars, Rock
Raiders, and next year's Life on Mars play theme.
So...
I'd like to announce a building contest!
The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.
RULES
-----
1. Come up with a new classic space set design -- something that wasn't ever
released by LEGO but which fits into the classic space style. Design a set
that looks like it might have been a real set at the time. Every model must
have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs (these
are all-white, all-red, all-yellow, all-blue, and all-black).
2. To enter, post a message to lugnet.build.contests and lugnet.space and
give the URL showing pictures of your model or models. After things get
rolling, I'll put together a webpage linking to the entries.
3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on December 1.
Only those who have entered the contest may vote. You can submit more than
one entry, but no more than one per day (so start early if you're going to
build a lot of entries). Each entry you submit gains you three vote points
in the category of your entry. You can apply your votes to other people's
models when the voting begins. (You can't vote for your own models.) More
details about this later.
4. Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use pieces
in colors which LEGO has actually produced.
CATEGORIES
----------
There are 11 categories. Enter as many or as few as you like, and make as
many entries in each category as you like. Real-life examples follow the
name of each category. (Note: some of the examples shown below aren't
classic space sets, but help illustrate the size/shape/style/flavor of the
category.)
1. Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships (approx. 20 pieces)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=885,6803,6801,1557,6806,6808,1620_1,1462,1711,1858,1974_4,1875,1887,1916,1954,2543,2847,6902,6816
2. Small Ships (approx. 20-80 pieces)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=891,6824,6848_2,6846,6820,6825,6872,6861_1,6830,6810,6832,6850
3. Medium Ships (approx. 100-200 pieces)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=918_1,924,6890,6891
4. Large Ships (approx. 300-1000 pieces)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=928,6929,6931,6973,6980,6984,6985,6986
(minimal baseplate use OK but discouraged)
5. Utility Vechicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=894,889,1558,1580_1,6821,6823,6826,6841,6844,6847,6849,6880,6883,6952
6. Walker Vehicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6882,6940,6876
7. Small Mobile Ship Launchers (approx. 50-200 pieces)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6870,6871,6874
8. Mobile Rocket Launchers (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=897,6881,6950
9. Mobile Laboratories (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+6901_1,6926,6927,6928,6925,6933,6989
10. Space Bases (any large size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+920_2,926,6930,6970,6971,6972,6987,6988,6990,6991
11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
(The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff. It's gotta be
believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)
DESIGN CRITERIA
---------------
* Follow the original classic space color schemes as closely as possible.
(Blue/Gray/Trans-Yellow, Gray/Trans-Green, White/Black/Trans-DarkBlue, etc.)
* Follow the general design principles used in classic space sets. (It's up
to you to reverse-engineer the design principles and apply them here. :-)
* Try to use only "period elements" -- elements which actually existed in
1978-1986. Use of more modern elements won't disqualify you, but try to
avoid them if possible. Your models will be more convincing with older
elements.
* Design and show alternative models using pieces from your main model!
Remember the backs of boxes that said, "Build any of these exciting models
with this set!"? See if you can come up with some neat alternative models.
* Functionality is king! Go for ships that have compartments that launch
reconaissance scouts or store equipment, bases that open up and do or store
interesting things, medium-sized ships that splits into a detachable
segments, etc. Come up with some cool stuff!
PRIZES
------
A lifetime supply of Jar-Jar and Timmy heads! .....No, just kidding.
Actually, this is a contest without prizes. The fun here is in the doing --
the building and idea-sharing.
The more people participate, the more everyone wins.
A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
-------------------
Here is a little ship built in the style of the 928 Galaxy Explorer, 924 Space
Cruiser, and 918 Space Transport sets:
http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/
I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example. I think it captures
the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats" a bit and
uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979. One is the 2x2.5x2 box
with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4 trans-yellow
hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that it attaches to.
(There might be others...I forget.)
If someone could figure out a way to re-engineer a ship like this using only
period elements, I would be extremely joyful to hear about it (and see it :-)!
One other problem with my design is that the tail end likes to fall off. In
the quest for "realism," I sacrified a bit of structural integrity. Points
off for that, of course. :-)
--Todd
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Mark reads announcement for contest.
Mark thinks "neat, I'll build something tomorrow"
Mark goes to bed and reads for a few minutes.
Read read read classic read space read
Mark gets up to go build something.
Dang it Todd.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1775
It's a Variation on a theme. What you'd get if you "upgraded" the Starfleet
Voyager.
I'll build something more original later.
~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin
--
Mark's Lego(R) Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
> From: Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com>
>
> I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot in
> my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.
>
> It's seeming more and more like the LEGO Space System product line (originally
> LEGOLAND Space, followed by Blacktron, Futuron, Space Police, etc.) is dead --
> and probably won't come back -- having been replaced by Star Wars, Rock
> Raiders, and next year's Life on Mars play theme.
>
> So...
>
> I'd like to announce a building contest!
>
> The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.
<BIG OL' SNIP>
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> 11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
> (The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff. It's gotta be
> believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)
Heyyyyy. I always thought the Aero Module was a sleek little ship.
I'm oddly offended... : (
-Jon
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Extremely cool idea, Todd! However, I am kinda mad because I won't be able
to enter simply because I don't have any Classic Space figs :( Don't you
think that rule could be modified? Weren't there CS sets without minifigs?
(Think: Spy Bot) I think the rule should be changed to "The only minifigs
that may be used are Classic Space astronauts."
Greg M.
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Jon Palmer writes:
> > 11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
> > http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
> > (The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff. It's gotta be
> > believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)
>
> Heyyyyy. I always thought the Aero Module was a sleek little ship.
> I'm oddly offended... : (
>
> -Jon
Heh, I have 3 of those (all gifts from childhood....so some people must have
thought it was a pretty cool set.)
--Bram
Bram Lambrecht
BXL34@po.cwru.edu
http://home.cwru.edu/~bxl34/
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In lugnet.build.contests, Mark Sandlin writes:
> Mark reads announcement for contest.
> Mark thinks "neat, I'll build something tomorrow"
> Mark goes to bed and reads for a few minutes.
> Read read read classic read space read
> Mark gets up to go build something.
> Dang it Todd.
Dang it Todd? Dang it Mark! If you get votes for every entry, you'll be
deciding the winner of the contest! Be careful...you can't vote for yourself,
so if you have too many entries you might not be able to win! :)
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1775
Nice job!
Now I need to find some ideas and some time...guess who's homework won't get
done this weekend...
--Bram
Bram Lambrecht
BXL34@po.cwru.edu
http://home.cwru.edu/~bxl34/
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"Bram Lambrecht" <BXL34@po.cwru.edu> wrote in message
news:G33BL8.J0C@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.build.contests, Mark Sandlin writes:
> > Mark reads announcement for contest.
> > Mark thinks "neat, I'll build something tomorrow"
> > Mark goes to bed and reads for a few minutes.
> > Read read read classic read space read
> > Mark gets up to go build something.
> > Dang it Todd.
>
> Dang it Todd? Dang it Mark! If you get votes for every entry, you'll be
> deciding the winner of the contest! Be careful...you can't vote for • yourself,
> so if you have too many entries you might not be able to win! :)
>
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1775
>
> Nice job!
> Now I need to find some ideas and some time...guess who's homework won't • get
> done this weekend...
Mine? Dunno, just a guess ;-)
--
Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com
http://www.ldraw.org - Centralized LDraw Resources
http://www.zacktron.com - Zacktron Alliance
ICQ: 23951114 - AIM: TimCourtne
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot in
> my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.
>
>
>
> A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
> -------------------
>
> Here is a little ship built in the style of the 928 Galaxy Explorer, 924 Space
> Cruiser, and 918 Space Transport sets:
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/
>
> I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example. I think it captures
> the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats" a bit and
> uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979. One is the 2x2.5x2 box
> with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4 trans-yellow
> hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that it attaches to.
> (There might be others...I forget.)
>
> --Todd
This is such perfect timing! I'm just putting finishing touches on
L-Draw-ing my "LL932 Galaxy Expedition". It goes the opposite direction of
your LittleShip--answering the question "what if Classic Space had been
released in the late 1990's." It's actually an combo-alternate model from
928 Galaxy Explorer and 924 Space Cruiser.
Now I have to finish up and submit it! Only problem is I like it too much
to tear it up and work on the other categories :)
Thanks for this fun idea!
-John Van
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Here's a first look: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1782
-John Van
"John VanZwieten" <john_vanzwieten@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:G33H9u.C7D@lugnet.com...
>
> This is such perfect timing! I'm just putting finishing touches on
> L-Draw-ing my "LL932 Galaxy Expedition". It goes the opposite direction • of
> your LittleShip--answering the question "what if Classic Space had been
> released in the late 1990's." It's actually an combo-alternate model • from
> 928 Galaxy Explorer and 924 Space Cruiser.
>
> Now I have to finish up and submit it! Only problem is I like it too • much
> to tear it up and work on the other categories :)
>
> Thanks for this fun idea!
>
> -John Van
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> From: "Paul Baulch" <paul@vic.bigpond.net.au>
>
> D'OHHH!! *bangs head against monitor*
>
> I just _knew_ that someone was gunna beat me to this! And I had the
> Starfleet Voyager luxury model all worked out... *sigh*
>
> Great model, Mark!
Thanks Paul,
But who's to say you couldn't make that too? Maybe there are a number of
variations based on the Starfleet platform. ;^)
~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin
--
Mark's Lego(R) Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
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In lugnet.build.contests, Mark Sandlin writes:
> But who's to say you couldn't make that too? Maybe there are a number of
> variations based on the Starfleet platform. ;^)
Yeah, here's another:
http://www.hafhead.com/lego/myspace/clvoy2/index.html
I'm not sure if this is eligible, as I made it a couple of months ago.
Also, I'd like to make some minor tweaks to get rid of the more modern
pieces (trans-antifreeze bits on the engines, corrugated bricks, and a
couple of others). Also the front end isn't terribly convincing as a real
Lego model.
--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/
>
> I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example. I think it
> captures the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats"
> a bit and uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979. One is the
> 2x2.5x2 box with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4
> trans-yellow hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that
> it attaches to. (There might be others...I forget.)
You also used the newer 3x3 wing bits. I don't know exactly when they came
out, but they certainly were much later than 1979.
Not to pick your design apart, of course. I have done some variants of
those ships as well, and I don't recall any that were terribly convincing.
Perhaps that's where I'll start building...
--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
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In lugnet.build.contests, John VanZwieten writes:
> Here's a first look: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1782
>
> > This is such perfect timing! I'm just putting finishing touches on
> > L-Draw-ing my "LL932 Galaxy Expedition". It goes the opposite direction
> > of your LittleShip--answering the question "what if Classic Space had been
> > released in the late 1990's." It's actually an combo-alternate model
> > from 928 Galaxy Explorer and 924 Space Cruiser.
Nice model- very consistent with period designs. I'd say it gets bonus
points for being an alternate of two existing sets, though the wing shape is
much more like space sets from a few years later.
--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
>
> I'd like to announce a building contest!
>
> The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.
>
> RULES
> -----
Quick rules question- are existing models eligible if they've been posted
somewhere already? Or is this only for new models?
I ask because I have a number of creations that could be eligible and yet
very limited time to actually build new ones in the next month.
--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
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Hi,
This is a great idea! Really gets juices going. Here's something I did a
few months ago. It was going to be for April Fools, but I can't wait any
longer. I suppose I'll have to enter this link twice, since there's two
sets included.
It's a mock-up of a "scan" of a "mysterious Danish catalog from 1983."
http://www.umop.com/pyrite.htm
If possible, I'd like to enter 6843 Raketskib in "medium-sized ships," and
6873 Mineralfartøj in "utility vehicles." Both set numbers were never used...
Dave (jot and jab)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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OH! Rats. I just took my Mega Galaxy Explorer apart. It was basically a
double sized Galaxy Explorer using Star Wars Wings instead of classic space
wings... MAN! It was twice as long and twice as wide!
Attention Frank Filz.. did you get a picture of that before I moved???
Oh well... I know what I'm doing this weekend.
Chris <><
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DOH!
I knew you'd built one, Tony. But I didn't realize I gave mine the same
name!
I've always liked yours anyway. Sort of a "cargo" version of the ship. I
don't mind the front end, since I don't think it necessarily needs all the
radar dishes and antennas, etc.
~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin
--
Mark's Lego(R) Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
> From: "Tony Hafner" <hafhead@PANTSplanetquake.com>
> Organization: None
> Newsgroups: lugnet.build.contests,lugnet.space
> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:23:30 GMT
> Subject: Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
>
> In lugnet.build.contests, Mark Sandlin writes:
> > But who's to say you couldn't make that too? Maybe there are a number of
> > variations based on the Starfleet platform. ;^)
>
> Yeah, here's another:
> http://www.hafhead.com/lego/myspace/clvoy2/index.html
>
> I'm not sure if this is eligible, as I made it a couple of months ago.
> Also, I'd like to make some minor tweaks to get rid of the more modern
> pieces (trans-antifreeze bits on the engines, corrugated bricks, and a
> couple of others). Also the front end isn't terribly convincing as a real
> Lego model.
>
> --
> Tony Hafner
> www.hafhead.com
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"Tony Hafner" <hafhead@PANTSplanetquake.com> wrote in message
news:G33nGH.69q@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.build.contests, John VanZwieten writes:
> > Here's a first look: • http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1782
> >
> > > This is such perfect timing! I'm just putting finishing touches on
> > > L-Draw-ing my "LL932 Galaxy Expedition". It goes the opposite • direction
> > > of your LittleShip--answering the question "what if Classic Space had • been
> > > released in the late 1990's." It's actually an combo-alternate model
> > > from 928 Galaxy Explorer and 924 Space Cruiser.
>
> Nice model- very consistent with period designs. I'd say it gets bonus
> points for being an alternate of two existing sets, though the wing • shape is
> much more like space sets from a few years later.
I consider the wing shape to be the next step in the progression from the
Cruiser to the Explorer. The Cruiser's leading edge is 30deg, the
Explorer starts at 30deg and goes to 45deg, while my Expedition moves from
30deg to 45deg to 60deg.
I did break from convention to angle part of the trailing edge of the
wing, though. Maybe I'll see what a non-alternate version would look like
with straight trailing edges.
-John Van
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Awesome contest! I'll enter.
<questions>
Can I submit models that I did in the past? Like, a year ago?
Or will I have to make new ones?
Can I submit modifications of a model *and* the original model as one entry?
(Example: With classic wings/with non-classic but better looking wings)
</questions>
Great idea!
--Tobias
In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot in
> my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.
>
> It's seeming more and more like the LEGO Space System product line (originally
> LEGOLAND Space, followed by Blacktron, Futuron, Space Police, etc.) is dead --
> and probably won't come back -- having been replaced by Star Wars, Rock
> Raiders, and next year's Life on Mars play theme.
>
> So...
>
> I'd like to announce a building contest!
>
> The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.
>
>
> RULES
> -----
>
> 1. Come up with a new classic space set design -- something that wasn't ever
> released by LEGO but which fits into the classic space style. Design a set
> that looks like it might have been a real set at the time. Every model must
> have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs (these
> are all-white, all-red, all-yellow, all-blue, and all-black).
>
> 2. To enter, post a message to lugnet.build.contests and lugnet.space and
> give the URL showing pictures of your model or models. After things get
> rolling, I'll put together a webpage linking to the entries.
>
> 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on December 1.
> Only those who have entered the contest may vote. You can submit more than
> one entry, but no more than one per day (so start early if you're going to
> build a lot of entries). Each entry you submit gains you three vote points
> in the category of your entry. You can apply your votes to other people's
> models when the voting begins. (You can't vote for your own models.) More
> details about this later.
>
> 4. Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use pieces
> in colors which LEGO has actually produced.
>
>
> CATEGORIES
> ----------
>
> There are 11 categories. Enter as many or as few as you like, and make as
> many entries in each category as you like. Real-life examples follow the
> name of each category. (Note: some of the examples shown below aren't
> classic space sets, but help illustrate the size/shape/style/flavor of the
> category.)
>
> 1. Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships (approx. 20 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=885,6803,6801,1557,6806,6808,1620_1,1462,1711,1858,1974_4,1875,1887,1916,1954,2543,2847,6902,6816
>
> 2. Small Ships (approx. 20-80 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=891,6824,6848_2,6846,6820,6825,6872,6861_1,6830,6810,6832,6850
>
> 3. Medium Ships (approx. 100-200 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=918_1,924,6890,6891
>
> 4. Large Ships (approx. 300-1000 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=928,6929,6931,6973,6980,6984,6985,6986
> (minimal baseplate use OK but discouraged)
>
> 5. Utility Vechicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=894,889,1558,1580_1,6821,6823,6826,6841,6844,6847,6849,6880,6883,6952
>
> 6. Walker Vehicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6882,6940,6876
>
> 7. Small Mobile Ship Launchers (approx. 50-200 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6870,6871,6874
>
> 8. Mobile Rocket Launchers (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=897,6881,6950
>
> 9. Mobile Laboratories (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+6901_1,6926,6927,6928,6925,6933,6989
>
> 10. Space Bases (any large size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+920_2,926,6930,6970,6971,6972,6987,6988,6990,6991
>
> 11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
> (The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff. It's gotta be
> believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)
>
>
> DESIGN CRITERIA
> ---------------
>
> * Follow the original classic space color schemes as closely as possible.
> (Blue/Gray/Trans-Yellow, Gray/Trans-Green, White/Black/Trans-DarkBlue, etc.)
>
> * Follow the general design principles used in classic space sets. (It's up
> to you to reverse-engineer the design principles and apply them here. :-)
>
> * Try to use only "period elements" -- elements which actually existed in
> 1978-1986. Use of more modern elements won't disqualify you, but try to
> avoid them if possible. Your models will be more convincing with older
> elements.
>
> * Design and show alternative models using pieces from your main model!
> Remember the backs of boxes that said, "Build any of these exciting models
> with this set!"? See if you can come up with some neat alternative models.
>
> * Functionality is king! Go for ships that have compartments that launch
> reconaissance scouts or store equipment, bases that open up and do or store
> interesting things, medium-sized ships that splits into a detachable
> segments, etc. Come up with some cool stuff!
>
>
> PRIZES
> ------
>
> A lifetime supply of Jar-Jar and Timmy heads! .....No, just kidding.
>
> Actually, this is a contest without prizes. The fun here is in the doing --
> the building and idea-sharing.
>
> The more people participate, the more everyone wins.
>
>
> A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
> -------------------
>
> Here is a little ship built in the style of the 928 Galaxy Explorer, 924 Space
> Cruiser, and 918 Space Transport sets:
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/
>
> I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example. I think it captures
> the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats" a bit and
> uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979. One is the 2x2.5x2 box
> with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4 trans-yellow
> hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that it attaches to.
> (There might be others...I forget.)
>
> If someone could figure out a way to re-engineer a ship like this using only
> period elements, I would be extremely joyful to hear about it (and see it :-)!
> One other problem with my design is that the tail end likes to fall off. In
> the quest for "realism," I sacrified a bit of structural integrity. Points
> off for that, of course. :-)
>
> --Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Mark Sandlin writes:
> DOH!
>
> I knew you'd built one, Tony. But I didn't realize I gave mine the same
> name!
The name was pretty obvious... a definite descendant of both the Starfleet
Voyager and the Galaxy Explorer.
Oh, and I got dibs on the Starfleet Commander name!
But if we all try to stay highly classic, including naming conventions,
we're probably going to have a lot of name conflicts. I don't think this is
a problem.
> I've always liked yours anyway. Sort of a "cargo" version of the ship. I
> don't mind the front end, since I don't think it necessarily needs all the
> radar dishes and antennas, etc.
Thanks! I'd say yours is a lot more true to the original, with all the same
paraphenaphenalalilalia (never could spell that right, but da**it- it's the
word I'm looking for!) On the other hand, I always removed most of those
from my Starfleet Voyager anyway.
I love the fact that you used the proper clear blue 1x4x1's for the cargo
pod window- much more traditional than, say, a 1x4x3 thin-wall. Seems like
it should be blue with yellow windows, though- it's almost exactly like the
All-Terrain Vehicle's cargo pod. Seems like some slight modifications to
the ship would let you use a compatible pod... hmm...
--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman wrote:
> 1. ... Every model must
> have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs ...
> 4. Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use pieces
> in colors which LEGO has actually produced.
Minor nit: These two rules conflict. The Classic Space/Castle helmet
hasn't been officially released as an LDraw part. Which makes it hard to
include classic space mini-figures in an LDraw model.
Roy Earls developed some unofficial versions of the helmet, see them at
<http://members.theglobe.com/Stonewall9/test.htm>.
--
Steve Bliss
Is that blue better for you?
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> From: "Tony Hafner" <hafhead@PANTSplanetquake.com>
<snip>
>
> Oh, and I got dibs on the Starfleet Commander name!
I almost called it that, but then I decided it wasn't enough of a "command"
ship. :^)
<snip>
>
> I love the fact that you used the proper clear blue 1x4x1's for the cargo
> pod window- much more traditional than, say, a 1x4x3 thin-wall. Seems like
> it should be blue with yellow windows, though- it's almost exactly like the
> All-Terrain Vehicle's cargo pod. Seems like some slight modifications to
> the ship would let you use a compatible pod... hmm...
Heh. I took inspiration from that pod. I thought about leaving a hole in the
center-top of the rear hatch so I could attach a dish that would poke out,
but I decided against it.
I never did like how the All-Terrain Vehicle mixed blue and yellow windows,
tho.
You know, we should get together sometime soon and do a collaborative CS
vehicle. :^)
~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin
--
Mark's Lego(R) Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
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In lugnet.build.contests, Mark Sandlin writes:
> Mark reads announcement for contest.
> Mark thinks "neat, I'll build something tomorrow"
> Mark goes to bed and reads for a few minutes.
> Read read read classic read space read
> Mark gets up to go build something.
> Dang it Todd.
LOL!
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1775
>
> It's a Variation on a theme. What you'd get if you "upgraded" the Starfleet
> Voyager.
Cool! -- It's bigger and a bit more "tough" looking. Kinda a cross between
the Starfleet Voyager and the FX-Star Patroller, with a detachable module
in the spirit of the All-Terrain Vehicle. Very nice!
--Todd
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message
news:7jmjvsg71ecgd1chff4v1vn79kegiru64c@4ax.com...
> In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman wrote:
>
> > 1. ... Every model must
> > have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs • ...
>
> > 4. Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use • pieces
> > in colors which LEGO has actually produced.
>
> Minor nit: These two rules conflict. The Classic Space/Castle helmet
> hasn't been officially released as an LDraw part. Which makes it hard • to
> include classic space mini-figures in an LDraw model.
>
> Roy Earls developed some unofficial versions of the helmet, see them at
> <http://members.theglobe.com/Stonewall9/test.htm>.
That hi-res version sure is a large .dat file, but it looks great in
POV-Ray. Too bad the helmet doesn't have the same insertion point as the
official helmet element. (I guess I could just mess with the file,
though.)
-John Van
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In lugnet.build.contests, Tony Hafner writes:
> Yeah, here's another:
> http://www.hafhead.com/lego/myspace/clvoy2/index.html
>
> I'm not sure if this is eligible, as I made it a couple of months ago.
Old stuff is OK -- as long as you still have pictures of it, which you do. :-)
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Tony Hafner writes:
> In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> > A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
> >
> > http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/
> >
> > I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example. I think it
> > captures the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats"
> > a bit and uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979. One is the
> > 2x2.5x2 box with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4
> > trans-yellow hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that
> > it attaches to. (There might be others...I forget.)
>
> You also used the newer 3x3 wing bits. I don't know exactly when they came
> out, but they certainly were much later than 1979.
Ahhh, yes.... OK. Thanks!
> Not to pick your design apart, of course.
No, please do! I invite it! It might help someone else come up with a
similar design that's more accurate.
> I have done some variants of
> those ships as well, and I don't recall any that were terribly convincing.
> Perhaps that's where I'll start building...
It sure was a lot of fun!
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Dave Lovelace writes:
> Hi,
>
> This is a great idea! Really gets juices going. Here's something I did a
> few months ago. It was going to be for April Fools, but I can't wait any
> longer. I suppose I'll have to enter this link twice, since there's two
> sets included.
>
> It's a mock-up of a "scan" of a "mysterious Danish catalog from 1983."
>
> http://www.umop.com/pyrite.htm
Oh, man, that is brutally well done!!! Ouch, it hurts!
--Todd (space completist)
>
> If possible, I'd like to enter 6843 Raketskib in "medium-sized ships," and
> 6873 Mineralfartøj in "utility vehicles." Both set numbers were never used...
>
> Dave (jot and jab)
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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In lugnet.build.contests, Tobias Möller writes:
> Awesome contest! I'll enter.
> <questions>
> Can I submit models that I did in the past? Like, a year ago?
Yes, as long as you still have photos or LDraw images. :-)
> Or will I have to make new ones?
> Can I submit modifications of a model *and* the original model as one entry?
> (Example: With classic wings/with non-classic but better looking wings)
> </questions>
Not sure I understand the question. Do you mean the wings fold? Or two
different actual design variations? I'd say they would probably be considered
the same model, with design variations....hmm....
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, John VanZwieten writes:
> Here's a first look: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1782
>
> -John Van
>
> "John VanZwieten" <john_vanzwieten@email.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:G33H9u.C7D@lugnet.com...
> >
> > This is such perfect timing! I'm just putting finishing touches on
> > L-Draw-ing my "LL932 Galaxy Expedition". It goes the opposite direction • of
> > your LittleShip--answering the question "what if Classic Space had been
> > released in the late 1990's." It's actually an combo-alternate model • from
> > 928 Galaxy Explorer and 924 Space Cruiser.
> >
> > Now I have to finish up and submit it! Only problem is I like it too • much
> > to tear it up and work on the other categories :)
> >
> > Thanks for this fun idea!
> >
> > -John Van
WOW!!! Please post the DAT file. PRETTY PLEASE!!!!!! :-)
Or email it to me if you wish.
Jude
shiningblade@home.com
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Can I suggest one more category?
12. Mamoth Bases and/or Ships (any size, 1000 peices or more)
I like to think big...
Royce
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:14:59 GMT, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com>
wrote:
> I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot in
> my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.
>
> It's seeming more and more like the LEGO Space System product line (originally
> LEGOLAND Space, followed by Blacktron, Futuron, Space Police, etc.) is dead --
> and probably won't come back -- having been replaced by Star Wars, Rock
> Raiders, and next year's Life on Mars play theme.
>
> So...
>
> I'd like to announce a building contest!
>
> The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.
>
>
> RULES
> -----
>
> 1. Come up with a new classic space set design -- something that wasn't ever
> released by LEGO but which fits into the classic space style. Design a set
> that looks like it might have been a real set at the time. Every model must
> have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs (these
> are all-white, all-red, all-yellow, all-blue, and all-black).
>
> 2. To enter, post a message to lugnet.build.contests and lugnet.space and
> give the URL showing pictures of your model or models. After things get
> rolling, I'll put together a webpage linking to the entries.
>
> 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on December 1.
> Only those who have entered the contest may vote. You can submit more than
> one entry, but no more than one per day (so start early if you're going to
> build a lot of entries). Each entry you submit gains you three vote points
> in the category of your entry. You can apply your votes to other people's
> models when the voting begins. (You can't vote for your own models.) More
> details about this later.
>
> 4. Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use pieces
> in colors which LEGO has actually produced.
>
>
> CATEGORIES
> ----------
>
> There are 11 categories. Enter as many or as few as you like, and make as
> many entries in each category as you like. Real-life examples follow the
> name of each category. (Note: some of the examples shown below aren't
> classic space sets, but help illustrate the size/shape/style/flavor of the
> category.)
>
> 1. Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships (approx. 20 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=885,6803,6801,1557,6806,6808,1620_1,1462,1711,1858,1974_4,1875,1887,1916,1954,2543,2847,6902,6816
>
> 2. Small Ships (approx. 20-80 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=891,6824,6848_2,6846,6820,6825,6872,6861_1,6830,6810,6832,6850
>
> 3. Medium Ships (approx. 100-200 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=918_1,924,6890,6891
>
> 4. Large Ships (approx. 300-1000 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=928,6929,6931,6973,6980,6984,6985,6986
> (minimal baseplate use OK but discouraged)
>
> 5. Utility Vechicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=894,889,1558,1580_1,6821,6823,6826,6841,6844,6847,6849,6880,6883,6952
>
> 6. Walker Vehicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6882,6940,6876
>
> 7. Small Mobile Ship Launchers (approx. 50-200 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6870,6871,6874
>
> 8. Mobile Rocket Launchers (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=897,6881,6950
>
> 9. Mobile Laboratories (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+6901_1,6926,6927,6928,6925,6933,6989
>
> 10. Space Bases (any large size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+920_2,926,6930,6970,6971,6972,6987,6988,6990,6991
>
> 11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
> (The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff. It's gotta be
> believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)
>
>
> DESIGN CRITERIA
> ---------------
>
> * Follow the original classic space color schemes as closely as possible.
> (Blue/Gray/Trans-Yellow, Gray/Trans-Green, White/Black/Trans-DarkBlue, etc.)
>
> * Follow the general design principles used in classic space sets. (It's up
> to you to reverse-engineer the design principles and apply them here. :-)
>
> * Try to use only "period elements" -- elements which actually existed in
> 1978-1986. Use of more modern elements won't disqualify you, but try to
> avoid them if possible. Your models will be more convincing with older
> elements.
>
> * Design and show alternative models using pieces from your main model!
> Remember the backs of boxes that said, "Build any of these exciting models
> with this set!"? See if you can come up with some neat alternative models.
>
> * Functionality is king! Go for ships that have compartments that launch
> reconaissance scouts or store equipment, bases that open up and do or store
> interesting things, medium-sized ships that splits into a detachable
> segments, etc. Come up with some cool stuff!
>
>
> PRIZES
> ------
>
> A lifetime supply of Jar-Jar and Timmy heads! .....No, just kidding.
>
> Actually, this is a contest without prizes. The fun here is in the doing --
> the building and idea-sharing.
>
> The more people participate, the more everyone wins.
>
>
> A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
> -------------------
>
> Here is a little ship built in the style of the 928 Galaxy Explorer, 924 Space
> Cruiser, and 918 Space Transport sets:
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/
>
> I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example. I think it captures
> the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats" a bit and
> uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979. One is the 2x2.5x2 box
> with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4 trans-yellow
> hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that it attaches to.
> (There might be others...I forget.)
>
> If someone could figure out a way to re-engineer a ship like this using only
> period elements, I would be extremely joyful to hear about it (and see it :-)!
> One other problem with my design is that the tail end likes to fall off. In
> the quest for "realism," I sacrified a bit of structural integrity. Points
> off for that, of course. :-)
>
> --Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Royce Fay writes:
> Can I suggest one more category?
>
> 12. Mamoth Bases and/or Ships (any size, 1000 peices or more)
If this is going to happen, it should more properly be Mammoth anything-
also including walkers, ground vehicles, etc. Also, I'd shy away from
"mammoth" including whole base complexes. Usually a huge base consists of a
number of separate buildings which I would think should be separate entries.
Now if it is a single massive building... that's another matter and is
totally acceptable.
All my opinion of course, and totally ignoreable if you disagree or are
otherwise offended in any way.
--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
www.pnltc.org
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In lugnet.build.contests, Tony Hafner writes:
> In lugnet.build.contests, Royce Fay writes:
> > Can I suggest one more category?
> >
> > 12. Mamoth Bases and/or Ships (any size, 1000 peices or more)
>
> If this is going to happen, it should more properly be Mammoth anything-
> also including walkers, ground vehicles, etc. Also, I'd shy away from
> "mammoth" including whole base complexes. Usually a huge base consists of a
> number of separate buildings which I would think should be separate entries.
> Now if it is a single massive building... that's another matter and is
> totally acceptable.
>
> All my opinion of course, and totally ignoreable if you disagree or are
> otherwise offended in any way.
I agree with Tony on that point -- how about instead of one big mammoth
category, submit 4 or 5 smaller models that you can optionally combine to
make a larger meta-model.
There actually was a "super-large (any size)" category originally when I was
typing up the first post, but I axed it because I wanted to stay as close to
the spirit of the original real LEGO sets as possible. They never made any
Space set bigger than about 500-700 pieces back then.
--Todd
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I took the liberty of starting another thread specifically for actual
entries. Check this out:
http://news.lugnet.com/build/contests/?n=116
And an apology: I already committed a foul. I missed this part of the rules:
> You can submit more than one entry, but no more than one per day (so start
> early if you're going to build a lot of entries).
Whoops- I submitted 3 on the first day. I'll resubmit two of them on
separate days next week.
--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
www.pnltc.org
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.build.contests, John VanZwieten writes:
> > Here's a first look: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1782
>
> Drrrrrooooooooolll!
Just how much of your classic space is packed away? I actually found myself
on Ebay today looking for second copies of G.E. and S.C. Hard to justify
$250-$300 just to keep a MOC intact :-)
> How many minifigs does it hold? What's on the bottom floor in the back?
>
> --Todd
The front section holds the pilot and a rear-facing nav/com specialist. The
upper deck (which is also the escape pod) holds the mission commander and a
mission specialist--with room for one more if they all stow their airtanks
below.
The bottom floor in back holds one of two standard payloads:
1)The forklift from 924 and components for constructing a
storage/communications facility (which just happens to use all the leftover
parts so I don't lose them), or
2)The forklift from 924, the buggy from 928 (w/ driver), and about 6x8x2
studs of additional storage space. (I keep all my silver-pressed latinum
there for safe-keeping.)
Hopefully I'll borrow a friend's digital camera soon and take pics of the
payloads.
-John Van
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Well drat I have too many pieces tied up in Bardiel to make anything too big
but fortunatly Bardiel is only 600 pieces so I should be able to get it in
one of these categories.
; )
-Jon
"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:G32Joz.6wH@lugnet.com...
> I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot • in
> my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.
>
> It's seeming more and more like the LEGO Space System product line • (originally
> LEGOLAND Space, followed by Blacktron, Futuron, Space Police, etc.) is • dead --
> and probably won't come back -- having been replaced by Star Wars, Rock
> Raiders, and next year's Life on Mars play theme.
>
> So...
>
> I'd like to announce a building contest!
>
> The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.
>
>
> RULES
> -----
>
> 1. Come up with a new classic space set design -- something that wasn't • ever
> released by LEGO but which fits into the classic space style. Design a • set
> that looks like it might have been a real set at the time. Every model • must
> have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs • (these
> are all-white, all-red, all-yellow, all-blue, and all-black).
>
> 2. To enter, post a message to lugnet.build.contests and lugnet.space and
> give the URL showing pictures of your model or models. After things get
> rolling, I'll put together a webpage linking to the entries.
>
> 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on December • 1.
> Only those who have entered the contest may vote. You can submit more • than
> one entry, but no more than one per day (so start early if you're going to
> build a lot of entries). Each entry you submit gains you three vote • points
> in the category of your entry. You can apply your votes to other people's
> models when the voting begins. (You can't vote for your own models.) • More
> details about this later.
>
> 4. Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use • pieces
> in colors which LEGO has actually produced.
>
>
> CATEGORIES
> ----------
>
> There are 11 categories. Enter as many or as few as you like, and make as
> many entries in each category as you like. Real-life examples follow the
> name of each category. (Note: some of the examples shown below aren't
> classic space sets, but help illustrate the size/shape/style/flavor of the
> category.)
>
> 1. Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships (approx. 20 pieces)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=885,6803,6801,1557,6806,6808,1620_1,1462,1711
,1858,1974_4,1875,1887,1916,1954,2543,2847,6902,6816
>
> 2. Small Ships (approx. 20-80 pieces)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=891,6824,6848_2,6846,6820,6825,6872,6861_1,68
30,6810,6832,6850
>
> 3. Medium Ships (approx. 100-200 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=918_1,924,6890,6891
>
> 4. Large Ships (approx. 300-1000 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=928,6929,6931,6973,6980,6984,6985,6986
> (minimal baseplate use OK but discouraged)
>
> 5. Utility Vechicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=894,889,1558,1580_1,6821,6823,6826,6841,6844,
6847,6849,6880,6883,6952
>
> 6. Walker Vehicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6882,6940,6876
>
> 7. Small Mobile Ship Launchers (approx. 50-200 pieces)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6870,6871,6874
>
> 8. Mobile Rocket Launchers (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=897,6881,6950
>
> 9. Mobile Laboratories (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+6901_1,6926,6927,6928,6925,6933,6989
>
> 10. Space Bases (any large size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+920_2,926,6930,6970,6971,6972,6987,6988,6990
,6991
>
> 11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
> (The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff. It's gotta be
> believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)
>
>
> DESIGN CRITERIA
> ---------------
>
> * Follow the original classic space color schemes as closely as possible.
> (Blue/Gray/Trans-Yellow, Gray/Trans-Green, White/Black/Trans-DarkBlue, • etc.)
>
> * Follow the general design principles used in classic space sets. (It's • up
> to you to reverse-engineer the design principles and apply them here. • :-)
>
> * Try to use only "period elements" -- elements which actually existed in
> 1978-1986. Use of more modern elements won't disqualify you, but try to
> avoid them if possible. Your models will be more convincing with older
> elements.
>
> * Design and show alternative models using pieces from your main model!
> Remember the backs of boxes that said, "Build any of these exciting • models
> with this set!"? See if you can come up with some neat alternative • models.
>
> * Functionality is king! Go for ships that have compartments that launch
> reconaissance scouts or store equipment, bases that open up and do or • store
> interesting things, medium-sized ships that splits into a detachable
> segments, etc. Come up with some cool stuff!
>
>
> PRIZES
> ------
>
> A lifetime supply of Jar-Jar and Timmy heads! .....No, just kidding.
>
> Actually, this is a contest without prizes. The fun here is in the • doing --
> the building and idea-sharing.
>
> The more people participate, the more everyone wins.
>
>
> A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
> -------------------
>
> Here is a little ship built in the style of the 928 Galaxy Explorer, 924 • Space
> Cruiser, and 918 Space Transport sets:
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/
>
> I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example. I think it • captures
> the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats" a bit • and
> uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979. One is the 2x2.5x2 • box
> with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4 trans-yellow
> hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that it attaches • to.
> (There might be others...I forget.)
>
> If someone could figure out a way to re-engineer a ship like this using • only
> period elements, I would be extremely joyful to hear about it (and see it • :-)!
> One other problem with my design is that the tail end likes to fall off. • In
> the quest for "realism," I sacrified a bit of structural integrity. • Points
> off for that, of course. :-)
>
> --Todd
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Two different design variations.
--Tobias
Todd Lehman wrote:
> Not sure I understand the question. Do you mean the wings fold? Or two
> different actual design variations? I'd say they would probably be considered
> the same model, with design variations....hmm....
>
> --Todd
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:G32Joz.6wH@lugnet.com...
>
> * Design and show alternative models using pieces from your main model!
> Remember the backs of boxes that said, "Build any of these exciting • models
> with this set!"? See if you can come up with some neat alternative • models.
>
Are there scans of the box-backs online somewhere?
-John Van
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> > http://www.umop.com/pyrite.htm
>
> Oh, man, that is brutally well done!!! Ouch, it hurts!
Thanks, Todd!
Still in the process of liquidating my collection, but I've still got enough
good stuff left to play around here. More to come, all with a similar
'scanned-catalog' format.
--Dave (jot and jab)
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> 1. Come up with a new classic space set design -- something that wasn't
> ever released by LEGO but which fits into the classic space style. Design
> a set that looks like it might have been a real set at the time. [...]
Some people are taking the above a little more literally than I'd intended.
I hadn't intended on encouraging hoax-style designs where people fake up
catalog scans or instruction scans complete with realistic-looking set
numbers -- although I'm certainly not opposed to this so long as:
* You document in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS (via some kind of disclaimer) on your
entry that it is NOT A REAL SET; and
* You don't intentionally or accidentally mislead anyone into thinking it
was a real set -- for even if you think the distinction is obvious from
the context or the image quality, it may not be obvious to everyone; and
* You don't falsely claim that LEGO owns the copyright on your image to make
it look more "real."
That said, I think the entries so far are absolutely outstanding, and they've
already begun to exceed my wildest expectations. I can't wait to see what
lies in store for the next 4 weeks!
--Todd
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Todd Lehman writes:
> Some people are taking the above a little more literally than I'd
> intended.
> I hadn't intended on encouraging hoax-style designs where people fake up
> catalog scans or instruction scans complete with realistic-looking set
> numbers -- although I'm certainly not opposed to this so long as:
I understood that that wasn't the intention, it was just a great chance to
give my hoaxing skills a shot. I don't think it fooled more than a couple
people.
> * You don't intentionally or accidentally mislead anyone into thinking it
> was a real set -- for even if you think the distinction is obvious from
> the context or the image quality, it may not be obvious to everyone; and
Aww, it's so much more fun that way :) (I only had one email asking me to
scan the rest of the manual:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1822
But I'm not up to making an entire instruction booklet...)
Going off to write a disclaimer to show I can play nice,
--Bram
Bram Lambrecht
BXL34@po.cwru.edu
http://home.cwru.edu/~bxl34/
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I have few guestions regarding colors and parts. First, the colors.
Did these pieces come in black in the Classic Space theme: 1x1 plate,
1x1 round brick, and 1x4 tile?
When doing a part count, do the antenna style levers count as one
piece? Additional, does the the 1x2 hinge brick count as one or two
pieces?
Travis Dickinson
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I've set up some web pages on LUGNET for the 1st Annual Classic Space Set
Design and Building Contest:
http://www.lugnet.com/~1/ClassicSpaceContest/2000/
To date, we have 26 entries from 13 entrants (PLMK if I missed anyone or if
an entry is misplaced):
http://www.lugnet.com/~1/ClassicSpaceContest/2000/Entries
Categories:
2 entries - Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships
3 entries - Small Ships
4 entries - Medium Ships
6 entries - Large Ships
4 entries - Utility Vechicles
2 entries - Walker Vehicles
1 entry - Small Mobile Ship Launcher
1 entry - Mobile Rocket Launcher
0 entries - Mobile Laboratories
1 entry - Space Base
2 entries - The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
Remember that you can enter more than one model and even more than one model
in each category.
This is shaping up to be fun contest! All of the entries are exciting!
Let's see if we can get to 50 entries!
Go build!
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Dave Lovelace writes:
> It's a mock-up of a "scan" of a "mysterious Danish catalog from 1983."
> http://www.umop.com/pyrite.htm
> If possible, I'd like to enter 6843 Raketskib in "medium-sized ships," and
> 6873 Mineralfartøj in "utility vehicles." Both set numbers were never
> used...
I've got your Raketskib listed under Medium Ships, but shouldn't we move it
to Small Ships? It looks about the size of 918.
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> [...]
> Only those who have entered the contest may vote. You can submit more than
> one entry, but no more than one per day (so start early if you're going to
> build a lot of entries). Each entry you submit gains you three vote points
> in the category of your entry. You can apply your votes to other people's
> models when the voting begins. (You can't vote for your own models.) More
> details about this later.
> [...]
OK, here are the details...
This is a "point-based" system, so you earn points by submitting entries and
spend points by voting. Voting begins after the deadline for new entries has
passed. Voting ends when the last entrant has completed voting or when seven
days have passed (whichever occurs sooner). The contest's entrants and the
contest's organizer are the only ones who may vote. The contest's organizer
is not allowed to enter the contest.
Each contest entry you submit earns you 3 points (votes), all of which you
must spend (or your entry is automatically disqualified). Points must be
spent as whole numbers; there are no fractional points.
The entry with the most points within a category wins that category. The
entry with most points overall wins "grand prize" status. In the event of
a tie, entries may share status.
Now, there are a couple of strategic restrictions on how and where points
may be spent:
First, you can only vote (spend points) on other people's entries -- never
on your own entries.
Second, for each set of 3 points you earn from an entry in category X, one
point must be spent _in_ category X, one point must be spent _outside_ of
category X, and one point can be spent in any category whatsoever. A special
exception occurs if your entry is the _only_ entry in category X: you earn
2 points for that entry rather than 3, and both points must be spent outside
of X.
Finally, the contest organizer (that's me) is granted and required to spend
exactly 1 point in each category.
--Todd
p.s. More details about submission of votes later -- it will probably be
something non-automated, where you send an email (or you could post publicly
if you wanted), and I'll tally the votes by hand. I'll need a disinterested
third-party volunteer (a non-entrant) to audit the vote accounting.
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Why is this posted 4(!) times?
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In lugnet.build.contests, Jonathan Wilson writes:
> Why is this posted 4(!) times?
I posted, realized I'd made a mistake, canceled, then reposted. Lather,
rinse, repeat. I wanted to make sure the wording was 100% clear.
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> I've set up some web pages on LUGNET for the 1st Annual Classic Space Set
> Design and Building Contest:
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/ClassicSpaceContest/2000/
>
> To date, we have 26 entries from 13 entrants (PLMK if I missed anyone or if
> an entry is misplaced):
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/ClassicSpaceContest/2000/Entries
>
> Categories:
>
> 2 entries - Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships
I decided that the Hoverflyer, which is currently listed as a polybag ship,
should likely be a small ship instead, as it's just a bit too big. Of
course the brickshelf page still shows polybag size, but I haven't bothered
to figure out how to change that.
Adrian
--
www.brickfrenzy.com
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In lugnet.build.contests, Jonathan McKay writes:
> Well I read that and I was inspired to make my first classic space model:
> http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/Terminus/spokane101/VTOLClassic.jpg
Your webserver gives a "precondition failed" error message. Presumably it
doesn't like direct links to images. Can you embed it in an HTML page so we
can view it?
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Adrian Drake writes:
> I decided that the Hoverflyer, which is currently listed as a polybag ship,
> should likely be a small ship instead, as it's just a bit too big.
ok, got it moved
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> I'll need a disinterested
> third-party volunteer (a non-entrant) to audit the vote accounting.
I'd be willing to do this audit. I'm disinterested... space sucks (it IS a
vacuum, of course). I may not be the best choice from a time perspective
though as I am tres busy.
Have you thought about how you'd actually audit the votes? Presumably the
voters should send a copy of their vote directly to the auditor and you
should send a copy of all the votes received to the auditor... the first
place to check for discrepancies (for the super paranoid) is to make sure
those emails match up one for one in identity and content. If they don't
something's awry.
No dimpled votes for Chad will be accepted, I assume.
++Lar
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> [...]
> 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on
> December 1.
> [...]
At least one person (maybe more) has built models which they haven't yet had
a chance to take photos of. I think one person was waiting on the delivery
of their first digital camera and had something like 8 or 9 models built.
If there aren't any objections, I'd like to extend the contest's deadline
for entries from December 1 (today) to December 4 (next Monday). That
would give one last weekend for any last-minute changes, photos, etc.
I picked December 1 out of a hat long ago without stopping to realize that
it was a Friday.
We should also make the deadline hour-fuzzy because of timezone differences.
So if you enter by Monday in your timezone, you're in the clear. Then we can
start the voting on December 6 (Wednesday) and wrap it up by the 13th and
announce the winners on approximately the 15th.
Sound good?
--Todd
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Thanks! I've been swamped with our fall legislative session, and just got
around to borrowing a digital camera.
-John Van
"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:G4w2J2.I45@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> > [...]
> > 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on
> > December 1.
> > [...]
>
> At least one person (maybe more) has built models which they haven't yet • had
> a chance to take photos of. I think one person was waiting on the • delivery
> of their first digital camera and had something like 8 or 9 models • built.
>
> If there aren't any objections, I'd like to extend the contest's • deadline
> for entries from December 1 (today) to December 4 (next Monday). That
> would give one last weekend for any last-minute changes, photos, etc.
>
> I picked December 1 out of a hat long ago without stopping to realize • that
> it was a Friday.
>
> We should also make the deadline hour-fuzzy because of timezone • differences.
> So if you enter by Monday in your timezone, you're in the clear. Then • we can
> start the voting on December 6 (Wednesday) and wrap it up by the 13th • and
> announce the winners on approximately the 15th.
>
> Sound good?
>
> --Todd
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Todd,
I don't think it is within your rights to arbitrarily set a deadline,
and then set an extension to that deadline. There are a lot of people
living overseas whose votes won't come in on time and if the result is
close...there will need to be time for a recount. I think I'll go ahead
and file a contest to the eventual results now to get a jump on the
crowd.
--
Thomas Main
main@appstate.edu
Todd Lehman wrote:
>
> In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> > [...]
> > 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on
> > December 1.
> > [...]
>
> At least one person (maybe more) has built models which they haven't yet had
> a chance to take photos of. I think one person was waiting on the delivery
> of their first digital camera and had something like 8 or 9 models built.
>
> If there aren't any objections, I'd like to extend the contest's deadline
> for entries from December 1 (today) to December 4 (next Monday). That
> would give one last weekend for any last-minute changes, photos, etc.
>
> I picked December 1 out of a hat long ago without stopping to realize that
> it was a Friday.
>
> We should also make the deadline hour-fuzzy because of timezone differences.
> So if you enter by Monday in your timezone, you're in the clear. Then we can
> start the voting on December 6 (Wednesday) and wrap it up by the 13th and
> announce the winners on approximately the 15th.
>
> Sound good?
>
> --Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Thomas Main writes:
> I don't think it is within your rights to arbitrarily set a deadline,
> and then set an extension to that deadline. There are a lot of people
> living overseas whose votes won't come in on time and if the result is
> close...there will need to be time for a recount. I think I'll go ahead
> and file a contest to the eventual results now to get a jump on the
> crowd.
Too funny!
The cirkey moncus goes on and on...
-- Richard
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> To date, we have 26 entries from 13 entrants (PLMK if I missed anyone or if
> an entry is misplaced):
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/~1/ClassicSpaceContest/2000/Entries
OK, we're now up to 54 entries! About 90 hours left to go. Lemme know if
there's anything on the list above that's missing or incorrect.
Numbers of entries per category so far:
4 - Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships
11 - Small Ships
11 - Medium Ships
10 - Large Ships
5 - Utility Vechicles
2 - Walker Vehicles
1 - Small Mobile Ship Launchers <=== NEED MORE!
1 - Mobile Rocket Launchers <=== NEED MORE!
3 - Mobile Laboratories
1 - Space Bases <=== NEED MORE!
5 - The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
Have fun!!
--Todd
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Oh wow thanks Todd. I just now saw this post.
-Jon
--
Please send replies to:
jpalmer@oklahoma.net
"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:G4w2J2.I45@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> > [...]
> > 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on
> > December 1.
> > [...]
>
> At least one person (maybe more) has built models which they haven't yet • had
> a chance to take photos of. I think one person was waiting on the • delivery
> of their first digital camera and had something like 8 or 9 models built.
>
> If there aren't any objections, I'd like to extend the contest's deadline
> for entries from December 1 (today) to December 4 (next Monday). That
> would give one last weekend for any last-minute changes, photos, etc.
>
> I picked December 1 out of a hat long ago without stopping to realize that
> it was a Friday.
>
> We should also make the deadline hour-fuzzy because of timezone • differences.
> So if you enter by Monday in your timezone, you're in the clear. Then we • can
> start the voting on December 6 (Wednesday) and wrap it up by the 13th and
> announce the winners on approximately the 15th.
>
> Sound good?
>
> --Todd
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To Todd Lehman: Thanks. This gives me time to post any alternates and
mini-vehicles for my models. I just found out and posted the surface roller for
my FX II. The Communications Base alone has several times more articulation than
its 6930 predecessor. With the exception of the aerial scout craft, every section
has some kind of movable part system or modular transformation. But anyway, I'm
tooting my own horn. I'm sure there's a LUGNET section for that. (*snicker*)
To Thomas Main: I saw your post and sincerely wonder if you're a Floridian. If
you know that you're posting on the day before, do like me and let LUGNET and
Todd know what time it is in your city. My base got in at 23:55, Central Standard
Time (Memphis, USA).
If you post on Sunday night, (in case somebody's from London, 5 hrs. ahead of NY,
Fla, and D.C.) say that it is X:XX (PM or AM) in the time zone that YOU are
computing from.
It's like that year-early millenium party. It was new years in Kiribati and
Tonga, but wouldn't be Jan. 1 for a whole day later in the Samoan Islands (same
distance from Memphis to Louisiana). If he lives in Massachusetts, then he'd have
to give the people of Labrador and New Brunswick a whole day. So I end this
tidbit with this: Thomas Main, take a hint from Thomas Paine, and let things flow
the way they will. The final entries will be in -- overseas and all -- by 22:00
on December 4, U.S. Central Standard Time. However, just worry about midnight in
your own timezone and things will be fine.
James JACKSON
"Now you're playing with LEGO Power!"
Todd Lehman wrote:
> In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> > [...]
> > 3. Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000. Judging begins on
> > December 1.
> > [...]
>
> At least one person (maybe more) has built models which they haven't yet had
> a chance to take photos of. I think one person was waiting on the delivery
> of their first digital camera and had something like 8 or 9 models built.
>
> If there aren't any objections, I'd like to extend the contest's deadline
> for entries from December 1 (today) to December 4 (next Monday). That
> would give one last weekend for any last-minute changes, photos, etc.
>
> I picked December 1 out of a hat long ago without stopping to realize that
> it was a Friday.
>
> We should also make the deadline hour-fuzzy because of timezone differences.
> So if you enter by Monday in your timezone, you're in the clear. Then we can
> start the voting on December 6 (Wednesday) and wrap it up by the 13th and
> announce the winners on approximately the 15th.
>
> Sound good?
>
> --Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> 1 - Small Mobile Ship Launchers <=== NEED MORE!
> 1 - Mobile Rocket Launchers <=== NEED MORE!
Maybe this will help remedy that:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=2220
It's a bit big for Small Mobile Ship Launchers (although I haven't counted the
pieces, but it doesn't launch a rocket, so I'll let you decide where it goes.
--Bram
Bram Lambrecht
BXL34@po.cwru.edu
http://home.cwru.edu/~bxl34/
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Todd Lehman wrote:
> OK, we're now up to 54 entries! About 90 hours left to go. Lemme know if
> there's anything on the list above that's missing or incorrect.
Since the deadline now is extended, I would like to re-enter my "search
scout" again;
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=2173
a model in the "small ships" category.
Thanks
--Tobias
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In lugnet.build.contests, Bram Lambrecht writes:
> In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> > 1 - Small Mobile Ship Launchers <=== NEED MORE!
> > 1 - Mobile Rocket Launchers <=== NEED MORE!
>
> Maybe this will help remedy that:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=2220
>
> It's a bit big for Small Mobile Ship Launchers (although I haven't counted
> the pieces, but it doesn't launch a rocket, so I'll let you decide where
> it goes.
I think it's perfect for that category, and in retrospect I think I misnamed
the category. It was meant for mobile launchers of small ships (which yours
is) and the way it's currently worded, technically there's no place for a
large or medium-sized launcher of small ships. (IOW, yours is a medium-sized
mobile small-ship launcher. :-)
--Todd
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In lugnet.build.contests, Tobias Möller writes:
> Since the deadline now is extended, I would like to re-enter my "search
> scout" again;
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=2173
>
> a model in the "small ships" category.
OK, got it. It's listed under Small Ships.
BTW, are you sure you don't want to enter it in the Itty Bitty Polybag-Size
Ships category instead? It's at the small end of the Small Ships size, but
at ~24 pcs it's perfect for Polybag Size.
--Todd
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Really? I thought 24 was too much for a polybag ship...
I originally intended it as a polybag ship, but the piece count was a
little too high (or so I thought.)
Then I'll change category, to "itty bitty polybag ship"!
--Tobias
Todd Lehman wrote:
>
> In lugnet.build.contests, Tobias Möller writes:
> > Since the deadline now is extended, I would like to re-enter my "search
> > scout" again;
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=2173
> >
> > a model in the "small ships" category.
>
> OK, got it. It's listed under Small Ships.
>
> BTW, are you sure you don't want to enter it in the Itty Bitty Polybag-Size
> Ships category instead? It's at the small end of the Small Ships size, but
> at ~24 pcs it's perfect for Polybag Size.
>
> --Todd
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Hey Y'all:
I am by no means a space-head. Please forgive me if I am not able to match
up to the design criteria as stated because of my lack of knowledge of the
space theme. There is no way that I know about space elements down to the
years in which each element was introduced. Therefore, I enter my newly
built SuperSucker 9000 in the category of "The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in
Space" for this reason AND because I was inspired by another participants
truly horrific entry into this same category! The SuperSucker 9000
(weighing in at approx. 33 elements) can be seen at:
http://members.aol.com/blueofnoon3/lego/supersucker9000.html
How little knowledge of the space theme do I have, you ask? Well, about 6-9
months ago I mentioned to Craigo that I was building a bunch of all black
minifigures with black motorcycle helmets and castle visors, but also with
the black opaque motorcycle visors. Craigo says, "O like Blacktron I..." I
said, "What...! They already make these!!!"
And so it goes...
And yeah, I know he has no air-tank. I just located a white tank a few
moments ago, long after these photos were taken -- maybe I'll fix him
tomorrow. I just wanted to be sure I got this one in before the deadline,
whenever that is...
-- Richard
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In lugnet.build.contests, Richard Marchetti writes:
> I am by no means a space-head. Please forgive me if I am not able to match
> up to the design criteria as stated because of my lack of knowledge of the
> space theme. There is no way that I know about space elements down to the
> years in which each element was introduced. Therefore, I enter my newly
> built SuperSucker 9000 in the category of "The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in
> Space" for this reason AND because I was inspired by another participants
> truly horrific entry into this same category! The SuperSucker 9000
> (weighing in at approx. 33 elements) can be seen at:
>
> http://members.aol.com/blueofnoon3/lego/supersucker9000.html
Well done!!!! You got the idea perfectly!
--Todd
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If you liked it, Tony -- my job here is done. I have your model in grey
right here on the desk next to my all white, and now all black, versions of
my own design. A modified version of the black one will undoubtedly make it
into Castle Blacktron.
Thanks for the kind words.
-- Richard
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In lugnet.build.contests, Todd Lehman writes:
> Well done!!!! You got the idea perfectly!
Thanks, Todd -- high praise considering the poor little guy is suffocating...
=)
...I wasn't sure of the extended dealine, and was in a bit of a hurry to get
the pictures in and the site listed.
-- Richard (he of few white airtanks)
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