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I still love that ship.
Gary
Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message
news:GIEp0n.BtF@lugnet.com...
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
>
> Let me know what you think--it's old news, but I finally got a
> reasonable site up so I thought I should "announce." :D
>
> all best
>
> Lindsay
>
> n.b.: Followups have been set.
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Holy cow. That aint little son. I saw a few pics of this during all the
brickfest posts. Glad you put up a site for it.
Its beautiful.
-Jon
"Mr L F Braun" <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message
news:GIEp0n.BtF@lugnet.com...
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
>
> Let me know what you think--it's old news, but I finally got a
> reasonable site up so I thought I should "announce." :D
>
> all best
>
> Lindsay
>
> n.b.: Followups have been set.
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
>
> Let me know what you think--it's old news, but I finally got a
> reasonable site up so I thought I should "announce." :D
>
> all best
>
> Lindsay
>
> n.b.: Followups have been set.
Lindsey,
Great boat, and a great read. I like being able to follow the building process.
Thanks,
George
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I liked those WWI BB and BC with the staggered port and starboard turrets.
A great job of buiding it with Lego.
Of course, my pyrates would sail in under those big guns, board it, and make
those lubbers walk the plank....
:-)
Bruce
In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
>
> Let me know what you think--it's old news, but I finally got a
> reasonable site up so I thought I should "announce." :D
>
> all best
>
> Lindsay
>
> n.b.: Followups have been set.
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Mr L F Braun writes:
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
"Unlike this site, the originals of Troy's and Bram's pictures have not been
cropped or otherwise modified (e.g., reduced to save disk space)."
Not true! I color balanced, sharpened, and reduced all my photos to
800x600. I just like big pictures :) I know Troy reduced his too, because
he always shoots at 2048x1536.
Anyway, very cool ship. The more large stuff I build, the more I realize
what a pain it is to build big. Congratulations on successful completion of
a model bigger than yourself, yet covered with detail.
--Bram
Bram Lambrecht
bram@cwru.edu
http://bldesign.org/
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Linsday,
Makes my little DDGN look super small. But wow, absolutely
amazing. Can you engineer building internal compartments
and living/working spaces?
Incredible master model building....
Marc
http://www.netpresonic.com/lego/ddgn/
In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
>
> Let me know what you think--it's old news, but I finally got a
> reasonable site up so I thought I should "announce." :D
>
> all best
>
> Lindsay
>
> n.b.: Followups have been set.
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> Hi, everybody!
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
As someone who's lived in this area for about 2 years now, I had to laugh at
your "worst signage" award for Washington DC. If anything, the Northern
Virginia area in general must have the worst signage in the entire country. I
really can't stand it when you drive through an intersection that is of course
unlabeled and then on the other side the street changes its name! And of
course the building numbers start over again. Does that over and over again
around here. You can drive down one road, never make a turn, and yet suddenly
you are on another road! Believe me, you didn't set any records for getting
lost to Brickfest. I think I've been lost much longer than that. so this is a
warning to those thinking about Brickfest 2002!! Put several hours into your
driving schedule for just randomly driving around Northern Virginia looking for
nonexistant or changed street signs!
And your boat was wonderful! I got several great pictures of it myself.
Katie
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In lugnet.build, Bram Lambrecht writes:
> Mr L F Braun writes:
> > http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
>
> "Unlike this site, the originals of Troy's and Bram's pictures have not been
> cropped or otherwise modified (e.g., reduced to save disk space)."
>
> Not true! I color balanced, sharpened, and reduced all my photos to
> 800x600. I just like big pictures :) I know Troy reduced his too, because
> he always shoots at 2048x1536.
Oh! I guess that's what I get for assmeuing. ("don't assume, it
just makes an ass out of me and u..." -former employer) I'll have
to change that--I took uniformity among your respective images as
evidence of original state.
I'll go change it to read properly this evening. Thanks again!
best
LFB
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In lugnet.build, Marc Cook writes:
> Linsday,
>
> Makes my little DDGN look super small. But wow, absolutely
> amazing. Can you engineer building internal compartments
> and living/working spaces?
I have. They're in there! They're just not *furnished*
because of time issues. Once I get my space here back in
order, I hope to go back and do that interior detailing.
If you look at the early bow shots, you can see the sub-
division of the upper deck--the lower deck is also divided
in this way, with doorways and so forth. I haven't put in
actual doors in all of the thresholds, though, so there
*is* that problem.
Thanks again!
best
LFB
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In lugnet.build, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> I liked those WWI BB and BC with the staggered port and starboard turrets.
> A great job of buiding it with Lego.
Thanks!
I've always liked the wing turret concept. The theory was
marvelous, but in the end it wasn't nearly as marvelous as
the American-pioneered raised-end mounting, which became
standard by 1916 on capital ships of all nations.
> Of course, my pyrates would sail in under those big guns, board it, and make
> those lubbers walk the plank....
Well, we'd just turn into the wind, that that would be the end
of that. ;)
Actually, the idea of something sneaking in too small and too
low to hit with the HG was a real fear of capital-ship builders.
That's why the 88mm guns are there, and why the casemates are
there too. The British did away with these for several generations,
but the Germans kept them. Oh, and you did see the machineguns
on top of the flag bridge? They do angle *down*...
...it would be a replay of that movie whose name escapes me, where
the pirates take over the Coast Guard cutter just to be cut down
on the deck by the one machinegun, a weapon they really didn't
know about...
best
LFB
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Amazing creation! I am still dazzled, even though I couldn't see "Fred"
live. The pictures are very good, so I managed to sense the "scale" of the
model... the word that comes to mind is none other than "Grosse"! (hence,
the name: your own + "the great"... ;-)
The page is very well done, one feels eager to know the whole story behind
the masterpiece. At least I felt.
Congratulations, and keep up the good work!
Pedro
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awesome! great ship, i especally like the artillarys
hehehehe :)
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.build, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > I liked those WWI BB and BC with the staggered port and starboard turrets.
> > A great job of buiding it with Lego.
>
> Thanks!
>
> I've always liked the wing turret concept. The theory was
> marvelous, but in the end it wasn't nearly as marvelous as
> the American-pioneered raised-end mounting, which became
> standard by 1916 on capital ships of all nations.
I just like complex looking things - I love really old steam locomotives and
find the streamlined stuff boring.
>
> > Of course, my pyrates would sail in under those big guns, board it, and make
> > those lubbers walk the plank....
>
> Well, we'd just turn into the wind, that that would be the end
> of that. ;)
>
> Actually, the idea of something sneaking in too small and too
> low to hit with the HG was a real fear of capital-ship builders.
> That's why the 88mm guns are there, and why the casemates are
> there too. The British did away with these for several generations,
> but the Germans kept them. Oh, and you did see the machineguns
> on top of the flag bridge? They do angle *down*...
>
> ...it would be a replay of that movie whose name escapes me, where
> the pirates take over the Coast Guard cutter just to be cut down
> on the deck by the one machinegun, a weapon they really didn't
> know about...
The Island. Peter Benchly. Michael Caine.
I did just that scenario in a shared-world (very long explanation which I
will avoid) and simply point out that it was the classic cutting-out foray:
catch 'em in port, board and overwhelm 'em before they know what was
happening. The wake from a BB would probably sink a pirate boat at sea! :-)
Bruce
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In lugnet.build, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > I've always liked the wing turret concept. The theory was
> > marvelous, but in the end it wasn't nearly as marvelous as
> > the American-pioneered raised-end mounting, which became
> > standard by 1916 on capital ships of all nations.
>
> I just like complex looking things - I love really old steam locomotives and
> find the streamlined stuff boring.
Well, the modernist 1880-1920s would definitely be your period,
I'd bet. :) There's something about the tentativeness of all
that period's designs--nothing could be standard, because it
was all changing so *quickly* that even standardization was new
(at least for this period--in ships, all hades had broken loose
in 1862 when that little thing with a turret had shown up).
> > Actually, the idea of something sneaking in too small and too
> > low to hit with the HG was a real fear of capital-ship builders.
> > That's why the 88mm guns are there, and why the casemates are
> > there too. The British did away with these for several generations,
> > but the Germans kept them. Oh, and you did see the machineguns
> > on top of the flag bridge? They do angle *down*...
> >
> > ...it would be a replay of that movie whose name escapes me, where
> > the pirates take over the Coast Guard cutter just to be cut down
> > on the deck by the one machinegun, a weapon they really didn't
> > know about...
>
> The Island. Peter Benchly. Michael Caine.
Darnit, that's exactly the one I was thinking of.
> I did just that scenario in a shared-world (very long explanation which I
> will avoid) and simply point out that it was the classic cutting-out foray:
> catch 'em in port, board and overwhelm 'em before they know what was
> happening. The wake from a BB would probably sink a pirate boat at sea! :-)
Do I sense a BrikWars scenario coming on? :)
Hmmm, I wonder if they could even catch a semi-modern steamer--
but in port, yes, the game changes. The famous _Emden_ did that
kind of thing--went up against a technically superior foe and
trashed it at close range. There are even suggestions that
Graf Spee (The admiral, not the ship) could have won against
Sturdee's battelcruisers at the Falklands if he'd just kept
heading for the islands--because he'd caught both CBs in port
*without steam up*. Instead, he ran away, allowing the British
to give chase within two hours and destroy Spee's entire
squadron at long range shortly after.
Such was the power of the Dreadnought-era capital ship--even
logic could not stand against them!
best
LFB
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
I don't even know what I can begin to say, Lindsay. This is one of the most
amazing models I've ever seen - the level of detail on the decks is stunning,
and the color scheme is gorgeous. I've followed your advances for the past
year or so (turret designs, major gun reworks, etc), but I never really
comprehended the notion that something so large and detailed would ever really
come to be ... but it has, and it is *amazing*.
You mentioned Brikwars in one of your posts ... *drool*. Throw in some Panzers
and Stukas (I know, wrong war, but I'm sure we could adapt a scenario that
included a re-commissioned WWI dreadnaught used to transport top secret
X-project materials), and you have a stunning layout. I vote for a
dockside/harbor scene ... high wooden docks, crates and barrels everywhere,
a German supply train, warehouses and shacks, lots of cover, lots of open
spaces, and a huuuuggggeee ship pulled into dock for loading. What a scene!
Now, how to overcome your first bad ship-tranportation experience and entice
you up to NELUG territory ;) Of course, maybe if we can convince you to bring
it to next years' Brickfest again, we can pull it together then. Well, just
wishful thinking and a happy imagination for now, I s'pose.
In all seriousness, though, this is stunning. I've started looking into the
possibility of doing a WWII German E-boat now, inspired by the fantastic
results you were able to showcase. I just hope hope hope that I get to see
yoru ship in person some day.
Thanks for the brilliant showing, Lindsay!
Regards,
Shaun
p.s. Here's another perfect example of why we need a .military or
.models/.modelling subgroup to lugnet.build (shameless plug)
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> In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> I built a little boat.
>
> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
Just stupendous Lindsay.
The snot-wise approach to hull design has worked a treat, the turrets
(always my worry) are wonderful, and the detail around the superstructure is
glorious.
I think another day in the sun for the HMS Valhalla and HMS Indescribable,
and then it will be time to send them off to the breakers, and build
someting truly capital. Must drag out my books and start looking for
something appropriately WWI from the Royal or Royal Australian navies. Not
sure that Australia ever really had much in the way ships to threaten FdG,
but there has got to be away to restore security in the Pacific. Actually,
maybe the best idea is to go back to one of the original British aircraft
carriers.
My NLSO is already concerned about where the slips for this new ship will be
located in the house....
;-)
Richard
Still baldly going...
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In lugnet.build, Richard Parsons writes:
> > In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> >
> > I built a little boat.
> >
> > http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lfbraun/Friedrich-der-Grosse.html
>
> Just stupendous Lindsay.
>
> The snot-wise approach to hull design has worked a treat, the turrets
> (always my worry) are wonderful, and the detail around the superstructure is
> glorious.
Hey, thanks! It's no pagoda--that'll have to wait for another
day--but I'm partial to it as well. I thought you'd also appreciate
that little front-page backstory. ;)
> I think another day in the sun for the HMS Valhalla and HMS Indescribable,
> and then it will be time to send them off to the breakers, and build
> someting truly capital. Must drag out my books and start looking for
> something appropriately WWI from the Royal or Royal Australian navies. Not
> sure that Australia ever really had much in the way ships to threaten FdG,
> but there has got to be away to restore security in the Pacific. Actually,
> maybe the best idea is to go back to one of the original British aircraft
> carriers.
If you want to get technical, the battlecruiser _Australia_, of
the relatively unfortunate _Indefatigable_ class, was paid for by
Australia (just as _New Zealand_ was paid for by NZ), and was thus
placed at the disposal of Australia at the outbreak of war--this
especially so, given that Graf Spee was busily causing mayhem in
the Pacific at that time. _Australia_ was one of the very few
ships Spee really and truly feared, because he couldn't outrun
it *and* couldn't outfight it.
HMAS Australia was a pioneer in several ways--in 1917 she tested
a flying-off platform for large warships at sea, and she was also
IIRC the first "dreadnought" on permanent Imperial service. But
alas, the Washington naval treaty got her, and she was taken out
of service in 1921 and scuttled off Sydney in 1924, where the
remanants of her wreckage remains to this day.
So, there you go!
> My NLSO is already concerned about where the slips for this new ship will be
> located in the house....
Make direct comparisons between the size of the NLSO and the size
of the ship. They just *love* that.
best
LFB
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In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> [snipped]
Thanks! I'm glad it has the approval of the ABS-grognards
among us. :) I was warned, however, that building that ship
served as an official gauntlet-dropping for you at next year's
Brickfest. That wasn't my intention, but I'm all for an arms
race! :D Now all we need to do is goad Carl Geatrix into
posting some more models too...
> You mentioned Brikwars in one of your posts ... *drool*. Throw in some Panzers
> and Stukas (I know, wrong war, but I'm sure we could adapt a scenario that
> included a re-commissioned WWI dreadnaught used to transport top secret
> X-project materials), and you have a stunning layout.
Heh. Actually, in order to do that believeably, we'd need to
turn this WWI BB into a pre-WWI BB, _Schlesien_ class. All of
the German dreadnoughts ended up on the bottom at Scapa in 1919. :(
> I vote for a
> dockside/harbor scene ... high wooden docks, crates and barrels everywhere,
> a German supply train, warehouses and shacks, lots of cover, lots of open
> spaces, and a huuuuggggeee ship pulled into dock for loading. What a scene!
That was the first word of many people who saw FdG--"Hey, that
would make a great BrikWars map..." If it's any encouragement
in going that direction, I do have a Skoda T-38/Pz 38(t) in the
planning stages. I've got a real soft spot for light tanks. :)
> Now, how to overcome your first bad ship-tranportation experience and entice
> you up to NELUG territory ;) Of course, maybe if we can convince you to bring
> it to next years' Brickfest again, we can pull it together then. Well, just
> wishful thinking and a happy imagination for now, I s'pose.
It may have mutated by then. But believe me, I wish I could bring
it up to NELUG-land--my gf lives in Cambridge (Mass., of course),
and if not for my teaching responsibilities I'd be there too!
> In all seriousness, though, this is stunning. I've started looking into the
> possibility of doing a WWII German E-boat now, inspired by the fantastic
> results you were able to showcase.
I think the technique could work, at least aft of the very prow.
E-boat hulls have a very complex and steep curve on part of the
bow, owing to the enclosed TT. FdG isn't very complicated as the
curvature goes--the possibilities are far greater than what I've
actually managed to put into practice so far. So I'm looking
forward to seeing an E-boat! I'd considered a Narvik-type DD
for next year, but alas, there doesn't seem to be any grey left
in my bin.
> p.s. Here's another perfect example of why we need a .military or
> .models/.modelling subgroup to lugnet.build (shameless plug)
I'm dipping this through .admin.general and back into .build
for that very reason. I'm definitely in favor of this--if mecha
gets a subgroup, I think military ought to get one!
best
LFB
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.build, Richard Parsons writes:
> >
> > I think another day in the sun for the HMS Valhalla and HMS Indescribable,
> > and then it will be time to send them off to the breakers, and build
> > someting truly capital. Must drag out my books and start looking for
> > something appropriately WWI from the Royal or Royal Australian navies. Not
> > sure that Australia ever really had much in the way ships to threaten FdG,
> > but there has got to be away to restore security in the Pacific. Actually,
> > maybe the best idea is to go back to one of the original British aircraft
> > carriers.
>
> If you want to get technical, the battlecruiser _Australia_, of
> the relatively unfortunate _Indefatigable_ class, was paid for by
> Australia (just as _New Zealand_ was paid for by NZ), and was thus
> placed at the disposal of Australia at the outbreak of war--this
> especially so, given that Graf Spee was busily causing mayhem in
> the Pacific at that time. _Australia_ was one of the very few
> ships Spee really and truly feared, because he couldn't outrun
> it *and* couldn't outfight it.
>
> HMAS Australia was a pioneer in several ways--in 1917 she tested
> a flying-off platform for large warships at sea, and she was also
> IIRC the first "dreadnought" on permanent Imperial service. But
> alas, the Washington naval treaty got her, and she was taken out
> of service in 1921 and scuttled off Sydney in 1924, where the
> remanants of her wreckage remains to this day.
Mmmm. Research is pointing in the same direction. Either HMAS Australia
(and let's not talk about the pushing and shoving with the New Zealand which
kept her out of Jutland - she may have suffered the same fate as
Indefatigable...), or perhaps HMS Furious in one of her many aircraft
oriented variations. Either way I get to keep at least two of my biplanes.
Got to check my (basically non-existent) stock of grey 2x2 rounds and grey
1x1 LFB railing clips before attempting a battlecruiser - its all a bit
academic without guns, and the crew have difficulty remaining crew without
railings, no?
Richard
Still baldly going...
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In lugnet.admin.general, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
SS said:
> > You mentioned Brikwars in one of your posts ... *drool*. Throw in some >>Panzers
> > and Stukas (I know, wrong war, but I'm sure we could adapt a scenario that
> > included a re-commissioned WWI dreadnaught used to transport top secret
> > X-project materials), and you have a stunning layout.
>
> Heh. Actually, in order to do that believeably, we'd need to
> turn this WWI BB into a pre-WWI BB, _Schlesien_ class. All of
> the German dreadnoughts ended up on the bottom at Scapa in 1919. :(
In *this* timeline. Since when are *minifigs* completely historically
accurate? Just gotta believe, and you're all set. Believability has nothing
to do with it.
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In lugnet.build, Richard Parsons writes:
> In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > In lugnet.build, Richard Parsons writes:
> > >
> > > I think another day in the sun for the HMS Valhalla and HMS Indescribable,
> > > and then it will be time to send them off to the breakers, and build
> > > someting truly capital. Must drag out my books and start looking for
> > > something appropriately WWI from the Royal or Royal Australian navies. Not
> > > sure that Australia ever really had much in the way ships to threaten FdG,
> > > but there has got to be away to restore security in the Pacific. Actually,
> > > maybe the best idea is to go back to one of the original British aircraft
> > > carriers.
> >
> > If you want to get technical, the battlecruiser _Australia_, of
> > the relatively unfortunate _Indefatigable_ class, was paid for by
> > Australia (just as _New Zealand_ was paid for by NZ), and was thus
> > placed at the disposal of Australia at the outbreak of war--this
> > especially so, given that Graf Spee was busily causing mayhem in
> > the Pacific at that time. _Australia_ was one of the very few
> > ships Spee really and truly feared, because he couldn't outrun
> > it *and* couldn't outfight it.
> >
> > HMAS Australia was a pioneer in several ways--in 1917 she tested
> > a flying-off platform for large warships at sea, and she was also
> > IIRC the first "dreadnought" on permanent Imperial service. But
> > alas, the Washington naval treaty got her, and she was taken out
> > of service in 1921 and scuttled off Sydney in 1924, where the
> > remanants of her wreckage remains to this day.
>
> Mmmm. Research is pointing in the same direction. Either HMAS Australia
> (and let's not talk about the pushing and shoving with the New Zealand which
> kept her out of Jutland - she may have suffered the same fate as
> Indefatigable...),
Heh. I forgot about that when I wrote this--Australia's only
capital ship, NZ's only capital ship, millions of square miles
of ocean, and *bump*.
Fortunately, the design flaw had nothing to do with the side
protection...
> or perhaps HMS Furious in one of her many aircraft
> oriented variations. Either way I get to keep at least two of my biplanes.
Or _Courageous_ or _Glorious_...or would they be HMS
_Curious_, _Spurious_, and _Outrageous_? :)
> Got to check my (basically non-existent) stock of grey 2x2 rounds and grey
> 1x1 LFB railing clips before attempting a battlecruiser - its all a bit
> academic without guns, and the crew have difficulty remaining crew without
> railings, no?
I don't know, I think your carrier railings are really quite nice.
They certainly look better, but granted, that becomes immaterial if
you start negotiating curves.
BTW, interesting site on ship naming:
http://www.downport.com/freelancetraveller/features/shipyard/naming.html
Found en passant.
best
LFB
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> Thanks! I'm glad it has the approval of the ABS-grognards
> among us. :) I was warned, however, that building that ship
> served as an official gauntlet-dropping for you at next year's
> Brickfest. That wasn't my intention, but I'm all for an arms
> race!
Gauntlet? Hmmm, all I see is this goofy looking glove ...
I scoured the web to find a definition for grognard, by the way ... good choice
of terms! But .. how could you tell? ;)
> :D Now all we need to do is goad Carl Geatrix into
> posting some more models too...
I e-mailed Carl regularly a year or so ago ... at that time, he warned me that
his interest in LEGO models was flagging, as he and his son were getting more
and more into RC tanks *grumble grumble*. Maybe a combined assault can coerce
him to return to his true talents? (Carl, if you're out there reading this,
come back!)
> > You mentioned Brikwars in one of your posts ... *drool*. Throw in some
> > Panzers and Stukas (I know, wrong war, but I'm sure we could adapt a scenario
> > that included a re-commissioned WWI dreadnaught used to transport top secret
> > X-project materials), and you have a stunning layout.
>
> Heh. Actually, in order to do that believeably, we'd need to
> turn this WWI BB into a pre-WWI BB, _Schlesien_ class. All of
> the German dreadnoughts ended up on the bottom at Scapa in 1919. :(
Except for the one dreadnought that had that brief (well, brief to the crew, I
suppose) tour in the Devil's Triangle? I believe it returned to port 20 years
after it left, and none of the crew were more than 4 months older. Or
something like that. Ahhhh well.
> > I vote for a
> > dockside/harbor scene ... high wooden docks, crates and barrels everywhere,
> > a German supply train, warehouses and shacks, lots of cover, lots of open
> > spaces, and a huuuuggggeee ship pulled into dock for loading. What a scene!
>
> That was the first word of many people who saw FdG--"Hey, that
> would make a great BrikWars map..." If it's any encouragement
> in going that direction, I do have a Skoda T-38/Pz 38(t) in the
> planning stages. I've got a real soft spot for light tanks. :)
Nice! I can't wait to see it ... by the way, an informal poll at
achtungpanzer.com rated the 38(t) as the favorite light tank of WWII by
visitors. Good choice! Sadly, in a poll of the favorite panzers, my personal
favorite, the Panzer III, came in last with 4.5% of the votes. The Panther did
edge out the Tiger though, to my surprise.
Anyway, I've started entering the planning stages for a dockside layout. I
figure this finally gives me a good place to use some of those strange and
traditionally useless colors I have so many bricks of, such as "red" and
"yellow" and "blue". Maybe by next year there will be something presentable?
> > Now, how to overcome your first bad ship-tranportation experience and entice
> > you up to NELUG territory ;) Of course, maybe if we can convince you to • bring
> > it to next years' Brickfest again, we can pull it together then. Well, just
> > wishful thinking and a happy imagination for now, I s'pose.
>
> It may have mutated by then. But believe me, I wish I could bring
> it up to NELUG-land--my gf lives in Cambridge (Mass., of course),
> and if not for my teaching responsibilities I'd be there too!
So your teaching position is the only restriction, hmm? [evil thoughts
churning] Perhaps that situation can be ... remedied. Just kidding ;) In any
case, if you do make it up here, even if it's sans FdG, make sure to let us
know ... we'll throw together a meeting at the very least, or something
much more ABS-grognardesque if you can get away for a couple hours.
-s
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In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> >
> > Thanks! I'm glad it has the approval of the ABS-grognards
> > among us. :) I was warned, however, that building that ship
> > served as an official gauntlet-dropping for you at next year's
> > Brickfest. That wasn't my intention, but I'm all for an arms
> > race!
>
> Gauntlet? Hmmm, all I see is this goofy looking glove ...
Well, I already lost the other one, so it's no big suffrance. :)
> I scoured the web to find a definition for grognard, by the way ... good choice
> of terms! But .. how could you tell? ;)
How does a panda find another panda in the bamboo forest?
(Please don't say "they don't, that's why they're endangered.")
And no, it has NOTHING to do with phermones (ew).
> > :D Now all we need to do is goad Carl Geatrix into
> > posting some more models too...
>
> I e-mailed Carl regularly a year or so ago ... at that time, he warned me that
> his interest in LEGO models was flagging, as he and his son were getting more
> and more into RC tanks *grumble grumble*. Maybe a combined assault can coerce
> him to return to his true talents? (Carl, if you're out there reading this,
> come back!)
Yeah! You can make nice RC tanks with LEGO! And nice RC
submarines! (Wait, um, maybe not.) I did have some nice 1/15
panzers back in the 1980s--but they never got built. Most of
what I have nowadays is 1/700 warships in waterline (big shock).
> > > You mentioned Brikwars in one of your posts ... *drool*. Throw in some
> > > Panzers and Stukas (I know, wrong war, but I'm sure we could adapt a scenario
> > > that included a re-commissioned WWI dreadnaught used to transport top secret
> > > X-project materials), and you have a stunning layout.
> >
> > Heh. Actually, in order to do that believeably, we'd need to
> > turn this WWI BB into a pre-WWI BB, _Schlesien_ class. All of
> > the German dreadnoughts ended up on the bottom at Scapa in 1919. :(
>
> Except for the one dreadnought that had that brief (well, brief to the crew, I
> suppose) tour in the Devil's Triangle? I believe it returned to port 20 years
> after it left, and none of the crew were more than 4 months older. Or
> something like that. Ahhhh well.
"Der Filadelfie-Versuchung"? I don't know. Actually, if the same
hull does make an appearance, it will probably be altered and rebuilt
so changing it to another pattern isn't a really big deal. It would
need to be rebuilt to allow BrikWars combat inside!
> > That was the first word of many people who saw FdG--"Hey, that
> > would make a great BrikWars map..." If it's any encouragement
> > in going that direction, I do have a Skoda T-38/Pz 38(t) in the
> > planning stages. I've got a real soft spot for light tanks. :)
>
> Nice! I can't wait to see it ... by the way, an informal poll at
> achtungpanzer.com rated the 38(t) as the favorite light tank of WWII by
> visitors. Good choice! Sadly, in a poll of the favorite panzers, my personal
> favorite, the Panzer III, came in last with 4.5% of the votes. The Panther did
> edge out the Tiger though, to my surprise.
I'm not surprised the Pz V did that well. But I do agree with you,
the Pz III was the most interesting of German WWII battle tanks--
in part because it shows the full range of development, from MBT
in 1939 to utility chassis and light/medium in 1945. The number
of variants was also staggering; only the T-34 and Pz IV chassis
approach it in that respect. ("Wirbelwind" anyone?) I'm also
partial to the StuGs built on the III hull.
> Anyway, I've started entering the planning stages for a dockside layout. I
> figure this finally gives me a good place to use some of those strange and
> traditionally useless colors I have so many bricks of, such as "red" and
> "yellow" and "blue". Maybe by next year there will be something presentable?
It *would* give me a use for all of these blue baseplates I couldn't
use in this ship! I do have a whole mess of dock pieces from the
Sail n' Fly marina and the Res-Q Command Center, so building up the
wharf wouldn't be too hard.
> > It may have mutated by then. But believe me, I wish I could bring
> > it up to NELUG-land--my gf lives in Cambridge (Mass., of course),
> > and if not for my teaching responsibilities I'd be there too!
>
> So your teaching position is the only restriction, hmm? [evil thoughts
> churning] Perhaps that situation can be ... remedied. Just kidding ;)
Heh. If I can't teach, I can't pay my bills, and so I'd have to
go back to Michigan. :S I do go up to Boston about once a month,
but it's usually only for two days and that's vital gf-face-time.
But if I can get up there during a vacation or somesuch we can
definitely work something out--and because I drive, I can bring...
interesting things. (I don't know about the battleship, though.)
Next year I don't know where I'll be. At some point I need to
do a research jaunt (jaunt?) through South Africa.
best
LFB
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> HMAS Australia was a pioneer in several ways--in 1917 she tested
> a flying-off platform for large warships at sea, and she was also
> IIRC the first "dreadnought" on permanent Imperial service.
HMAS Australia it is. Somewhere around 320 long by 42 wide I think
Hull design and template test complete
12 inch barrel design complete
grey capability confirmed
tan capability under review
Being built (perhaps entirely) of heretical materials, I doubt we'll see the
same glorious detail as aboard FdG, but she'll still cut an attractive
silhouette.
I liked the shots of the FdG in progress too. Must get some film for my
camera.
If I'm really really lucky, I might get to keep Indescribable, and refit her
weapons, bow and stern to c1910.
Richard
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> I liked the shots of the FdG in progress too. Must get some film for my
> camera.
Turret and hull template: http://www.ozbricks.com/portblock/yar/009.htm
I'm only now discovering the joy of snot. Cool!!
;-)
Richard
Still baldly going...
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> Turret and hull template: http://www.ozbricks.com/portblock/yar/009.htm
>
> I'm only now discovering the joy of snot. Cool!!
[and from the link]
> Kind of hoping to have her away for shakedown for Studfest X in October.
Yes, please...
<Crosses fingers>
Cheers
Richie Dulin
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
>
> > I liked the shots of the FdG in progress too. Must get some film for my
> > camera.
>
> Turret and hull template: http://www.ozbricks.com/portblock/yar/009.htm
>
> I'm only now discovering the joy of snot. Cool!!
Mmmmmmmmmm. SNOT!
Looking very nice! Are we to assume the use of imposter brands will be
reduced???
ROSCO
PS: I can get you plans of the hull profile for an Anzac frigate if you want
something to work from - send me an e-mail if you're interested.
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In lugnet.pirates, Ross Crawford writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
>
> > I liked the shots of the FdG in progress too. Must get some film for my
> > camera.
> >
> > Turret and hull template: http://www.ozbricks.com/portblock/yar/009.htm
> >
> > I'm only now discovering the joy of snot. Cool!!
>
> Mmmmmmmmmm. SNOT!
>
> Looking very nice! Are we to assume the use of imposter brands will be
> reduced???
Good grief no. I guess if I was bulding the HMS Indefatigable or something,
but the Australia was built for the colonies...
(And besides that, I have a colonial sized budget - its only my pretentions
that are global sized)
> ROSCO
>
> PS: I can get you plans of the hull profile for an Anzac frigate if you want
> something to work from - send me an e-mail if you're interested.
Cool! (Not for this project, but maybe for the next one...)
Richard
Still baldly going...
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Ross Crawford writes:
> > In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> >
> > > I liked the shots of the FdG in progress too. Must get some film for my
> > > camera.
> > >
> > > Turret and hull template: http://www.ozbricks.com/portblock/yar/009.htm
> > >
> > > I'm only now discovering the joy of snot. Cool!!
> >
> > Mmmmmmmmmm. SNOT!
> >
> > Looking very nice! Are we to assume the use of imposter brands will be
> > reduced???
>
> Good grief no. I guess if I was bulding the HMS Indefatigable or something,
> but the Australia was built for the colonies...
>
> (And besides that, I have a colonial sized budget - its only my pretentions
> that are global sized)
And your warships 8?)
ROSCO
(Casually adding .build.military to the X-post to make sure they're all awake
over there...)
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Ross Crawford writes:
> > In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> >
> > > Turret and hull template: http://www.ozbricks.com/portblock/yar/009.htm
> > >
> > > I'm only now discovering the joy of snot. Cool!!
> >
> > Mmmmmmmmmm. SNOT!
Mmmmmm is right! My only question is: Is that frame to be
incorporated in the actual ship? If so, how? You did mention
that its actual width will be 2x what's in the picture--but
does that mean that the ship will be stouter (which it in fact
was) or is the slope pretty much set?
The hardest part about this building method is the obnoxious
33/16.5 degree split. If you want 22 degrees, it's back to
the pixels (or ex-low-slopes, if you're flush with those).
That turret looks excellent--my only question is, can you
"barrelize" the gun any more, or are there not enough 2x2
cylinder bricks about? Or do you just not want to (which
is OK too, like you needed *my* clearance...heh)?
> > Looking very nice! Are we to assume the use of imposter brands will be
> > reduced???
>
> Good grief no. I guess if I was bulding the HMS Indefatigable or something,
> but the Australia was built for the colonies...
Are you implying that purist LEGO warships are prone to massive
explosions? :D
> > ROSCO
> >
> > PS: I can get you plans of the hull profile for an Anzac frigate if you want
> > something to work from - send me an e-mail if you're interested.
>
> Cool! (Not for this project, but maybe for the next one...)
Yes, this one could be patterned after a splitting wedge. :)
Bow flare is REALLY hard to manage, which is why I've hung
about pre-1930 thus far.
best
LFB
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> >
> > Turret and hull template: http://www.ozbricks.com/portblock/yar/009.htm
>
> My only question is: Is that frame to be incorporated
> in the actual ship? If so, how? You did mention that
> its actual width will be 2x what's in the picture--but
> does that mean that the ship will be stouter (which it
> in fact was) or is the slope pretty much set?
The slope is best estimate for now. The x and y measurements and
proportions were taken from the overall dimensions of the ship, and a line
drawn plan and elevation that seemed to suggest that the hull was
essentially in three equi-length parts - bow, centre, stern.
http://www.warships1.com/BRbc08_Indefatigable-LD1.jpg
Always open to advice though.
The bow and stern sections seem to be very similar in shape, varying only at
the apex and not by much. The 2x thingie is just about there being a
starbord section to go with the port.
I did notice that this seems to be coming out a bit sleeker than FdG, but I
figured it was close enough for now, and that I'd modify for taste as I went
along.
The actual frame won't be part of the ship - I simply knocked it up to get a
feel for size and proportion, and scope out what would be necessary in the
way of pieces (and construction space!).
> That turret looks excellent--my only question is, can you
> "barrelize" the gun any more, or are there not enough 2x2
> cylinder bricks about? Or do you just not want to (which
> is OK too, like you needed *my* clearance...heh)?
I think my entire collection includes 6 2x2 grey rounds. Needs must when
the devil drives...
> Are you implying that purist LEGO warships are prone to massive
> explosions? :D
Only unconsciously if at all ;-)
Richard
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