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Re: MOC: First World War German Dreadnought: SMS Friedrich der Grosse
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Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:20:18 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Richard Parsons writes:
In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
In lugnet.build, Richard Parsons writes:

I think another day in the sun for the HMS Valhalla and HMS Indescribable,
and then it will be time to send them off to the breakers, and build
someting truly capital.  Must drag out my books and start looking for
something appropriately WWI from the Royal or Royal Australian navies.  Not
sure that Australia ever really had much in the way ships to threaten FdG,
but there has got to be away to restore security in the Pacific.  Actually,
maybe the best idea is to go back to one of the original British aircraft
carriers.

  If you want to get technical, the battlecruiser _Australia_, of
  the relatively unfortunate _Indefatigable_ class, was paid for by
  Australia (just as _New Zealand_ was paid for by NZ), and was thus
  placed at the disposal of Australia at the outbreak of war--this
  especially so, given that Graf Spee was busily causing mayhem in
  the Pacific at that time.  _Australia_ was one of the very few
  ships Spee really and truly feared, because he couldn't outrun
  it *and* couldn't outfight it.

  HMAS Australia was a pioneer in several ways--in 1917 she tested
  a flying-off platform for large warships at sea, and she was also
  IIRC the first "dreadnought" on permanent Imperial service.  But
  alas, the Washington naval treaty got her, and she was taken out
  of service in 1921 and scuttled off Sydney in 1924, where the
  remanants of her wreckage remains to this day.

Mmmm.  Research is pointing in the same direction.  Either HMAS Australia
(and let's not talk about the pushing and shoving with the New Zealand which
kept her out of Jutland - she may have suffered the same fate as
Indefatigable...),

   Heh.  I forgot about that when I wrote this--Australia's only
   capital ship, NZ's only capital ship, millions of square miles
   of ocean, and *bump*.

   Fortunately, the design flaw had nothing to do with the side
   protection...

or perhaps HMS Furious in one of her many aircraft
oriented variations.  Either way I get to keep at least two of my biplanes.

   Or _Courageous_ or _Glorious_...or would they be HMS
   _Curious_, _Spurious_, and _Outrageous_?  :)

Got to check my (basically non-existent) stock of grey 2x2 rounds and grey
1x1 LFB railing clips before attempting a battlecruiser - its all a bit
academic without guns, and the crew have difficulty remaining crew without
railings, no?

   I don't know, I think your carrier railings are really quite nice.
   They certainly look better, but granted, that becomes immaterial if
   you start negotiating curves.

   BTW, interesting site on ship naming:

   http://www.downport.com/freelancetraveller/features/shipyard/naming.html

   Found en passant.

   best

   LFB



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  Re: MOC: First World War German Dreadnought: SMS Friedrich der Grosse
 
(...) HMAS Australia it is. Somewhere around 320 long by 42 wide I think Hull design and template test complete 12 inch barrel design complete grey capability confirmed tan capability under review Being built (perhaps entirely) of heretical (...) (23 years ago, 31-Aug-01, to lugnet.pirates)
  Re: HMAS Australia
 
(...) [and from the link] (...) Yes, please... <Crosses fingers> Cheers Richie Dulin (23 years ago, 9-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.au)

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(...) Mmmm. Research is pointing in the same direction. Either HMAS Australia (and let's not talk about the pushing and shoving with the New Zealand which kept her out of Jutland - she may have suffered the same fate as Indefatigable...), or perhaps (...) (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.build, lugnet.build.sculpture, lugnet.boats, lugnet.pirates)

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