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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is tomorrow,
in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Uh...gosh...........wow. Big. You need help Drake. You used a mast from a pirate
ship as a surface greeb?
Two questions:
1. How did you attach the slanted sides?
2. That ring at the back. How strong is it? I’ve seen those done before in
sculptures.
What an interior........
-Joseph
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
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Dude, Adrian, that’s sick.
It should be illegal to have that many bricks.
Thats also <adjective>ing brilliant! The detail is just stunning. And the
interior of the beast is just amazing. I love the second level, for example-
the piping connecting the tubs is really cool.
Everything good I’ve ever built could probably all cram into shuttle bay of
this...
This MOC makes me want to go and stop work on the ‘big’ for me 40-stud ship I’m
making and just go hide in a hole...
Oh, and one niggle- why are most of the thumbs on your site resized to a square
layout when the actual pictures are rectangular?
-JHK
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Compensating for something?
~Kevin
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I don’t even know where to begin...
There is just so much here that is awesome, that to go through all of it would
take up a lot of my time.
So Adrian, all I’m going to say to you is: Great job!
BTW, why did you include an armoury in this “allegedly” scientific vessels?
Methinks this is really a giant PCS raiding ship (it even has TWO airlocks,
and a small shuttle) to counter the advances the Eastern Block/Iron Reich/3vil
has made in spaceship construction.
;-)
Mladen Pejic
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In lugnet.space, Joseph Sibilia-Young wrote:
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Uh...gosh...........wow. Big. You need help Drake. You used a mast from a
pirate ship as a surface greeb?
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Yes I do, and yes I did. What better use for a pirate mast then as an antenna?
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Two questions:
1. How did you attach the slanted sides?
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Which ones? The radiator panels on the spine are attached with a hex-shaped
technic beam array. The window panels on the crew section simply rest in place.
The lower panels have a 1x4 brick on each corner that notches behind a brick on
the frame that hold the top in, and the bottom just rests on a row of bricks.
The panels all stay in place easily, but remove easily too.
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2. That ring at the back. How strong is it? I’ve seen those done before in
sculptures.
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It’s quite strong, once it’s together. Getting it built tended to be a little
tricky, though.
Indeed.
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, John Henry Kruer wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
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Dude, Adrian, that’s sick.
It should be illegal to have that many bricks.
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Pish. It should be illegal NOT to have that many bricks.
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Thats also <adjective>ing brilliant! The detail is just stunning. And the
interior of the beast is just amazing. I love the second level, for example-
the piping connecting the tubs is really cool.
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That actually is one of my favorite interiors on the whole ship. First is the
reactor in the back, but second is all the piping on deck 2. I really love the
way it turned out.
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Everything good I’ve ever built could probably all cram into shuttle bay of
this...
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Ahh, see I’m good at building big, but building small frequently beguiles me.
Not everyone can or should build at this scale :)
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This MOC makes me want to go and stop work on the ‘big’ for me 40-stud ship
I’m making and just go hide in a hole...
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Bigger isn’t always better, you know.
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Oh, and one niggle- why are most of the thumbs on your site resized to a
square layout when the actual pictures are rectangular?
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Because I am frightfully lazy when it comes to image manipulation and when I
manually make my thumbnails I just resize them in a batch to make the
thumbnails. I like the look of the equally sized thumbs, but it’s too much
effort to manually crop each image to a square before resizing it.
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Kevin Blocksidge wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Compensating for something?
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Yes, I’m compensating for the lack of 12 foot long spaceships on Lugnet. Got a
problem with that?
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Mladen Pejic wrote:
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I don’t even know where to begin...
There is just so much here that is awesome, that to go through all of it
would take up a lot of my time.
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It’s a sunday, what else do you have to do today? :)
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So Adrian, all I’m going to say to you is: Great job!
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Thanks.
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BTW, why did you include an armoury in this “allegedly” scientific vessels?
Methinks this is really a giant PCS raiding ship (it even has TWO airlocks,
and a small shuttle) to counter the advances the Eastern Block/Iron
Reich/3vil has made in spaceship construction.
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The ship has an armory exactly because there are so many threats from EB/IR/3vil
to her safety. Without a few weapons on board, even the most pathetic of pirate
vessel could easily take her over.
Plus, how else is the crew going to be able to skeet-shoot fleebnorks?
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake wrote:
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Because I am frightfully lazy when it comes to image manipulation and when I
manually make my thumbnails I just resize them in a batch to make the
thumbnails. I like the look of the equally sized thumbs, but it’s too much
effort to manually crop each image to a square before resizing it.
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Uh, I’m probably missing something very obvious here but...
do they have to be square?
-JHK
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In lugnet.space, John Henry Kruer wrote:
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Uh, I’m probably missing something very obvious here but...
do they have to be square?
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They could if you want the thumbs for your vertically oriented images to match
the thumbs for your horizontally oriented images. Otherwise you’ll end up with
tall/skinny thumbs and short/fat thumbs.
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That’s nice, but where’s the, um, Landing Gear?
:-)
Adrian, that ROCKS! I
really don’t think I can comprehend the enormity of it without having seen it in
person. Congrats.
How much did you have to repair once you got it to BF?
James Wilson
Dallas, TX
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In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake wrote:
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In lugnet.space, Mladen Pejic wrote:
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I don’t even know where to begin...
There is just so much here that is awesome, that to go through all of it
would take up a lot of my time.
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It’s a sunday, what else do you have to do today? :)
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Photograph and put this up on
my website.
But thanks for not believing me anyways.
LOL j/k ;-p
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So Adrian, all I’m going to say to you is: Great job!
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Thanks.
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You’re welcome.
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BTW, why did you include an armoury in this “allegedly” scientific vessels?
Methinks this is really a giant PCS raiding ship (it even has TWO
airlocks, and a small shuttle) to counter the advances the Eastern
Block/Iron Reich/3vil has made in spaceship construction.
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The ship has an armory exactly because there are so many threats from
EB/IR/3vil to her safety. Without a few weapons on board, even the most
pathetic of pirate vessel could easily take her over.
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I don’t buy it...
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Plus, how else is the crew going to be able to skeet-shoot fleebnorks?
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Okay, I’ll concede this one.
Haha :-D
Mladen Pejic
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In lugnet.space, John Henry Kruer wrote:
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In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake wrote:
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Because I am frightfully lazy when it comes to image manipulation and when I
manually make my thumbnails I just resize them in a batch to make the
thumbnails. I like the look of the equally sized thumbs, but it’s too much
effort to manually crop each image to a square before resizing it.
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Uh, I’m probably missing something very obvious here but...
do they have to be square?
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I really like symmetry, and differently sized thumbnails offends my aesthetic
sensibilities. So yes, they do all have to be square :)
I agree with you though, that is one of the (many) things that I dislike about
brickfrenzy.com’s current design. But with 97 MOCs spread out over 191 html
pages, it will take a frighteningly large amount of effort to port everything
over to a new layout, and so I continue to procrastinate.
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, James Wilson wrote:
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That’s nice, but where’s the, um, Landing Gear?
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Does the Enterprise have a landing gear? How about a star destroyer? ;)
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Adrian, that ROCKS!
I really don’t think I can comprehend the enormity of it without having seen
it in person. Congrats.
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Thanks. I can’t even comprehend the enormity of it and I built the damn thing!
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How much did you have to repair once you got it to BF?
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The crew compartment and spine came through completely unscathed. The engine
module was partially disassembled to fit in its box and came back together
relatively quickly too. The fuel tanks fell apart (they’re rather brittle in
construction) and took a fair amount of effort to reassemble. From the
shipping containers to fully assembled MOC was about 1 1/2 hours to set up.
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I agree with you though, that is one of the (many) things that I dislike
about brickfrenzy.com’s current design. But with 97 MOCs spread out over 191
html pages, it will take a frighteningly large amount of effort to port
everything over to a new layout, and so I continue to procrastinate.
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Sounds like a good time to hire...
PHP-Script Man!
If you scripted your site, the website could autmagically make thumbs for you (I
think you can even crop images in PHP to preserve dimensions) and layout your
model pages and category pages. Heck, if you get all into it like Kyle, you can
even skin your site so everytime you get tired of the look you can add a new
defualt skin without wrecking content. :)
I’d go to Kyle’s house with a whole bunch of donuts and ask for his help...
-JHK
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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You really made good use of all that interior space! There are so many great
details, I loved clicking through all the photos. Some of my favorites: the
janitor’s closet with the mop bucket, the “sneeze guard” on the buffet, the
bench press station in the fitness center (with adjustable incline!), even a
chapel. My only complaint is that the weight room is lacking a squat
rack--lower body training is just as important.
Awesome MOC!
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In lugnet.space, Kyle Vrieze wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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You really made good use of all that interior space! There are so many great
details, I loved clicking through all the photos. Some of my favorites: the
janitor’s closet with the mop bucket, the “sneeze guard” on the buffet, the
bench press station in the fitness center (with adjustable incline!), even a
chapel. My only complaint is that the weight room is lacking a squat
rack--lower body training is just as important.
Awesome MOC!
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I would’ve put some sort of leg exercise on the Nautilus machine, but
unfortunately couldn’t figure out how to make one look good with a minimum of
pieces. Minifig legs are so awkwardly shaped. Maybe the crew gets their leg
exercises by cranking the force way up on the exercise bike. Yeah, that’s it.
Thanks for the compliments. I loved building this interior. So many neat little
details, like the sliding doors that all have access panels on both sides of the
wall, each room has its own air vent (2 1x2 black grill tiles), and a total of
127 2x2 slope computer displays, that I couldn’t help but giggle sometimes at
the sheer lunacy of it.
Adrian
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Very good. Your building skills are coming along nicely, young one.
And here was me thinking your absence must have been because of that new baby
taking up all your time. I should have known better eh?
Cheers,
Allister
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I saw the pics of the big ship while thumbing through the BrickFest photos.
Everyone has pretty much mentioned the praise I would give for it, so ditto on
the posts. Very nice, very big ship. It has a 2001 Space Odyssey feel to it.
I also saw Blood Moon pics; I didn’t realize she was still together! That ship
is still one of my favorite lego ships I have seen, and I didn’t see the skull
upgrade on the dorsal wing till now. It adds some character to it. Is the
skull just a pirate symbol or some kind of 3vil alliance? Anyway, the science
ship needs the guns to defend against Blood Moon!
Great work!
Bill Pfund
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Wow!!! Way to go Adrian! I was blown away when I saw the initial pics from
Brickfest and I’ve been eagerly awaiting the official post from the builder. As
always, great presentation. This MOC just kicks a** in every posible way. Not
only is it epic in proportion, it is elegant in form and wonderful in detail. I
think the sculpted-brick style of building worked very well on this MOC. Because
of the sheer size, the overall form of the model looks very smooth when viewed
from the proper distance and as a whole. The circular tail assembly is
especially deceptive. Took me a little while to figure out how you pulled it
off. Very nice. And I really enjoyed pouring over the interior details. I think
the reactor room is my favorite, though I really dig the rec room and the waste
recycling room too. Overall-- an excellent job and definitely one of the best.
--Dan
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In lugnet.space, Allister McLaren wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Very good. Your building skills are coming along nicely, young one.
And here was me thinking your absence must have been because of that new baby
taking up all your time. I should have known better eh?
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Yup, I’m a sneaky little one, aren’t I? I started working on this project in
November of last year, so a fair portion of the ship was completed before my son
was born. Getting the rest done proved tricky, though.
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Bill Pfund wrote:
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I saw the pics of the big ship while thumbing through the BrickFest photos.
Everyone has pretty much mentioned the praise I would give for it, so ditto
on the posts. Very nice, very big ship. It has a 2001 Space Odyssey feel to
it. I also saw Blood Moon pics; I didn’t realize she was still together!
That ship is still one of my favorite lego ships I have seen, and I didn’t
see the skull upgrade on the dorsal wing till now. It adds some character to
it. Is the skull just a pirate symbol or some kind of 3vil alliance?
Anyway, the science ship needs the guns to defend against Blood Moon!
Great work!
Bill Pfund
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When building a vessel that is this shape (long and skinny with a rounded front)
it’s quite difficult to avoid comparisons to the Discovery from 2001, so I just
accept them. It wasn’t my intent to copy that design, it just sort of worked
out that way.
The Blood Moon has been minding her own business sitting on a shelf in my
basement. I skullified it for Brickfest DC so that it would be a part of the
3vil alliance. Basically, 3GA subcontracted the Blood Moon for 3vil services
rendered, so they added the skull to the ship. The Blood Moon had always been a
pirate vessel, they’re just newly affiliated now ;)
And the Tribunal does have defensive weaponry. Since she has artifical gravity
capabilities, there are mechanisms to convert said artificial gravity into
defensive weapons. Besides the standard tractor beams, she is capable of
creating a gravitic shield that would normally be used to protect the front of
the ship from micrometeorite strikes during flight. Boosting power to the
gravitic shield would provide her with the capability to block larger incoming
weapons. Whether it works on Frap rays and Freem cannons remains to be seen.
There, is that scientific enough for you? :)
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake wrote:
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And the Tribunal does have defensive weaponry. Since she has artifical
gravity capabilities, there are mechanisms to convert said artificial gravity
into defensive weapons. Besides the standard tractor beams, she is capable
of creating a gravitic shield that would normally be used to protect the
front of the ship from micrometeorite strikes during flight. Boosting power
to the gravitic shield would provide her with the capability to block larger
incoming weapons. Whether it works on Frap rays and Freem cannons remains to
be seen.
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There, is that scientific enough for you? :)
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Yes! Here is some more science for y’all - this is good warm up to the
approaching school year! Pardon the windedness, but you know how teachers can
be!
The manipulation of gravity (and antigravity) would be a requirement for all
ships that wish to go faster than light, from the large to the small. In fact,
physicists like Kip Thorne and others see long distance space travel being
possible only if making antigravity is possible, a side topic theoretically
debated right now within astronomy, astrophysics, and perhaps string theory
advocates with regards to dark matter and dark energy. The repulsors on Star
Wars ships, hyper and warp drives on most sci-fi ships, hover cars, etc. would
all need to bend space at will to work. So if a ship can bend gravity for
extreme manuvers like space travel and floating, it could certainly do it for a
small task like deflecting projectiles launched at it. In fact, lasers and
energy weapons (Frap rays and Freem?) would also be deflected, because all
matter and energy must travel through space, and must follow the geometry of
space as it moves. Curve space away from a ship, and weapons fire curves away
from it too.
Class is over. There will be a quiz on Friday... ;-)
Bill Pfund
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Adrian,
This is one highly spiffy craft. I really like the “tray” method of pulling out
the interior; I expect to see that become standard on big ships from here on
out. The shuttle is itself a work of art. And the tail ring is probably my
favorite single feature--it’s an excellent use of the 1x2 brick wiggle. Did you
work out the curvature of that ring first, or was it simply serendipity?
I wish I could have seen your baby in person...the second largest ship ever to
grace a Brickfest. ;)
all best
LFB
PS: And, of course, the payoff question: Is it whooshable? :)
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What a spectacle this must have been in person. Sorry to miss it. But still very
cool to browse through all your progress and final photos.
A grand undertaking, and certainly a project well worth the time it took to
build. You’ve impressed us all, yet again.
Taking a line Lenny just used, BRAVO! :)
--Ry
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In lugnet.space, Daniel Jassim wrote:
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Wow!!! Way to go Adrian! I was blown away when I saw the initial pics from
Brickfest and I’ve been eagerly awaiting the official post from the builder.
As always, great presentation. This MOC just kicks a** in every posible way.
Not only is it epic in proportion, it is elegant in form and wonderful in
detail. I think the sculpted-brick style of building worked very well on this
MOC. Because of the sheer size, the overall form of the model looks very
smooth when viewed from the proper distance and as a whole. The circular tail
assembly is especially deceptive. Took me a little while to figure out how
you pulled it off. Very nice. And I really enjoyed pouring over the interior
details. I think the reactor room is my favorite, though I really dig the rec
room and the waste recycling room too. Overall-- an excellent job and
definitely one of the best.
--Dan
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Hey, high praise from another big ship builder! Always a pleasure.
As for the shape, it turned out that greebling the exterior of the Tribunal was
unneccessary. In fact, almost every attempt at greebling I tried just looked
tacked on exactly because of the sculptured shape of the ship. I finally just
broke down and justified the dramatic difference in design between her and
Chris Giddens’ Vanguard,
despite the fact that both ships live in the same timeframe, is that the
Tribunal has all her delicate machinery covered up with panelling because of her
mission profile keeping her away from maintenance areas for long periods of
time. The Vanguard can return to spaceport more easily and get that pesky hose
reattached.
Glad you enjoyed it, and I patiently await you building a 13 foot long carrier
of some sort to top it!
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Lindsay Frederick Braun wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Adrian Drake wrote:
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I finally got the pictures of it. So you get to see it.
The shuttle will probably get posted tomorrow. Unless it already is
tomorrow, in which case I’ll do it today.
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Adrian,
This is one highly spiffy craft. I really like the “tray” method of pulling
out the interior; I expect to see that become standard on big ships from here
on out. The shuttle is itself a work of art. And the tail ring is probably
my favorite single feature--it’s an excellent use of the 1x2 brick wiggle.
Did you work out the curvature of that ring first, or was it simply
serendipity?
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For ships of this scale, the drawer technique works out quite well, though you
have to be very judicious in the building of the superstructure to make sure
that it doesn’t continually fall
apart during
construction :)
As for the tail ring, I knew that I wanted to use that technique, and I knew
that it would need attachment points in 3 places (originally it was 6, but the
blue fins on each engine exhaust no longer physically attach to the ring) and in
order to make the attachments work, I needed a big number divisible by 3 (or 6).
So the ring is 128 bricks around, 13 rows high. (1664 white 1x2’s if you’re
counting). That is probably not the smallest ring size you could make with this
technique, but it is certainly the most convenient, since 128 is such a nice
number to work with.
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I wish I could have seen your baby in person...the second largest ship ever
to grace a Brickfest. ;)
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largest SPACE ship, Mr. “I build boring water floating Vessels”
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all best
LFB
PS: And, of course, the payoff question: Is it whooshable? :)
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About as swooshable as the Takao is.
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Ryan Wood wrote:
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What a spectacle this must have been in person. Sorry to miss it. But still
very cool to browse through all your progress and final photos.
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Indeed, your presence was missed at BF. It certainly was a spectacle, and it
certainly is a relief to have it finally completed too!
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A grand undertaking, and certainly a project well worth the time it took to
build. You’ve impressed us all, yet again.
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Yeah. If I ever conceive of a project of this scale again, please try and talk
me out of it. ;)
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Taking a line Lenny just used, BRAVO! :)
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Thanks
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Kyle Vrieze wrote:
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You really made good use of all that interior space! There are so many great
details, I loved clicking through all the photos. Some of my favorites:
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You missed mentioning possibly the funniest one of all: The Big Red Button
marked “Do Not Push” on the bridge. That was hilarious.
Now one is forced to wonder, what does that button do? :-)
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In lugnet.space, Christian Allred wrote:
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In lugnet.space, Kyle Vrieze wrote:
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You really made good use of all that interior space! There are so many
great details, I loved clicking through all the photos. Some of my
favorites:
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You missed mentioning possibly the funniest one of all: The Big Red Button
marked “Do Not Push” on the bridge. That was hilarious.
Now one is forced to wonder, what does that button do? :-)
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I was wondering when somebody would notice that.
That’s the button that transforms the Tribunal into fighting robot mode.
Unfortunately, the designers of the ship and the transforming mechanism failed
to create sufficient internal space for the crew, so they all get pulverized by
gears and moving mechanisms or vented into space during the transformation
sequence. The shipbuilders realized this after the first crew was lost, so they
labelled the transformation button with a sign to tell people not to push it.
Adrian
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In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake wrote:
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In lugnet.space, Christian Allred wrote:
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In lugnet.space, Kyle Vrieze wrote:
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You really made good use of all that interior space! There are so many
great details, I loved clicking through all the photos. Some of my
favorites:
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You missed mentioning possibly the funniest one of all: The Big Red Button
marked “Do Not Push” on the bridge. That was hilarious.
Now one is forced to wonder, what does that button do? :-)
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I was wondering when somebody would notice that.
That’s the button that transforms the Tribunal into fighting robot mode.
Unfortunately, the designers of the ship and the transforming mechanism
failed to create sufficient internal space for the crew, so they all get
pulverized by gears and moving mechanisms or vented into space during the
transformation sequence. The shipbuilders realized this after the first
crew was lost, so they labelled the transformation button with a sign to
tell people not to push it.
Adrian
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Darn it - I was hoping that it represented the History Eraser Button from the
Ren & Stimpy episode “Space Madness.”
Bob
Of course, Stimpy HAD to push the button, and as a result, no more Ren & Stimpy.
:-(
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