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Subject: 
Re: Union Pacific Trademark Battle
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Date: 
Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:29:48 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Kenny Paul wrote:
I read in the San Fransisco Chronicle this morning that UP is planning on
charging for the use of their logo, INCLUDING any fallen flags for lines that UP
has taken over.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/12/07/BUGJ73H8FO1.DTL&type=business

I have understood this to be SOP for these guys, not new news.

Plus they're very unfriendly to wannabee licensees and train clubs that want to
use fallen flag tribute heralds. I have some personal experience dealing with UP
and find them not to be the most fan friendly by any means (or vendor friendly
either, they work their vendors against each other vigorously and are in my view
quite adversarial)

You'd think that a railroad with such a bad rep among shippers for how they
bungled the SP merger would want fans to like them, but...

Contrast that with Norfolk Southern which are very pro fan and give permission
for fallen flag tribute heralds if you but ask them, as NCLTC did.

Speculation: LEGO(r) may have selected the ATSF Warbonnet logo/trade dress for
their first train set modeled after a US prototype partly because UP are so hard
to work with, and BNSF comparatively much more friendly. Certainly the major
factor is that the warbonnet is one of the most recognised color schemes ever
(LIONEL(r) made it famous, long long ago and the cachet lingers), but that may
have been an additional one.

++Lar



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I read in the San Fransisco Chronicle this morning that UP is planning on charging for the use of their logo, INCLUDING any fallen flags for lines that UP has taken over. (URL) Kenny Paul (21 years ago, 7-Dec-03, to lugnet.trains)

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