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    How to # that darn B unit... —David VinZant
   I have been looking around the net to find out if the SCSC B units have numbers on them. So far the pictures I have found of the B units show no number at all. So I kinda have a two part question. Does the SFSC B unit have a number and if so, where (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: How to # that darn B unit... —Stefan Garcia
     I don't think the B-units had number boards. I have several model train catalogs, and they don't show any B-units with number boards for ATSF or any other roadname for that matter. -Stefan- (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: How to # that darn B unit... —Ken Cefaratti
     According to Model Railroad Magazine, most, if not all railroads considered multi-unit lashups as one locomotive, thus having the same number and not needing a numberboard. This was done mainly to by-pass the union rules requiring an engineer and (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: How to # that darn B unit... —David VinZant
     Thanks for all the info. I had heard that the engines were seen as one whole unit. So I will just leave it with out a number. Dave PNLTC ps. I ment SFSC, not SCSC (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: How to # that darn B unit... —Jason J. Railton
     (...) I presume an A-B-B-A arrangement would have two different numbers for each A-B pairing though? So, by the union rule, there'd be two crews. Would controls of the second be slaved to the first? Jason J Railton (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: How to # that darn B unit... —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) It depends. In the early days, usually not. The entire lashup (ABA, ABBA, ABB, ABBBA, whatever) usually got one number. Sometimes with a trailing letter (301A, 301B, 301C, 301D for example for an ABBA 4 unit set) (...) No, that battle was won (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: How to # that darn B unit... —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) The general answer to your question is, "it depends". ATSF B units at various points in their lives had numbers that denoted they were part of permanently coupled sets or numbers that were independent. (over time, railroads decoupled the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: How to # that darn B unit... —Harvey Henkelman
   The Santa Fe generally painted a single number on the sides of their booster units. An A+B+B+A consist of units required only a single crew, not only F units...but also E's, ALCo PA's i.e. any set of 'covered wagons' for that matter. -Harvey (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
 

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