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Re: Old Train Wheels Question
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Date: 
Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:39:24 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Sonnich Jensen writes:
> 
> From: Tony Hafner <hafhead@PANTSplanetquake.com>
> 
> 
> > In lugnet.trains, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > > I have been up to something not very imaginative here: namely converting • the
> > > Hogwart's push thingy into a kind of Thatcher Perkins push thingy. The
> > > Thatcher Perkins is (has always been) a push train, right?
> > 
> > The Lego one was push-only, yes.  Though there is plenty of room to fit in • a
> > 4.5v motor from that era.  If done correctly, it wouldn't look much
> > different from the outside.
> > 
> > > One of the things I'd like to know is if the black circular element on • the
> > > front of the train is in fact merely an old style black train wheel, if • it's
> > > not -- what is it?
> > > 
> > > Hmmm, I may have been missing a small detail -- are there two kinds of • small
> > > old train wheels?  It looks like these black plastic pin wheels differ
> > > slightly from the red wheels I have with the metal pins -- and the thing • on
> > > the front of the Thatcher Perkins looks like the red wheels I have except • in
> > > black.  What's the story there?
> > 
> > Those metal-axled wheels came in black as well.  I have some from
> <set:162>.
> 
> These were also in a few other sets. Another idea is to "kill" an old
> battery car (availible at LD, atl least in the Danish section) and use the
> wheels.
> 
> > 
> > > Also I am missing those unique arms on the wheels, does anybody have a • cool
> > > design that replaces those unique elements?  I have seen some technic
> > > elements that have given me ideas, but I am not clear on how to attach • them
> > > to the wheels.
> > 
> > There are other solutions, but I have yet to see something as compact.
> > Someone else here can probably fish out pics of similar arrangements.
> > 
> > > Lastly, because I have no real knowledge of trains, do the large wheels • in
> > > the back have to be three pairs of large wheels, or can there be two and
> > > even single pairs of large wheels towards the back of the engine.
> > 
> > Well, if you want it to actually represent a Thatcher Perkins then you'd
> > have to keep the correct number of wheels (without doing the research, I'm
> > going to go out on a limb and assume that Lego got the wheel arrangement
> > correct).  But you could certainly change around the number of wheels and
> > have a potentially valid train design.
> 
> That is correct. The real Thatcher Perkins is at a museum in Baltimore
> (Baltimode&Ohio Railway Museum). I tried to go the last time I was in the
> US.
> This is the real one:
> http://gowest.coalliance.org/cgi-bin/imager?00002605
> 
> other pages:
> http://www.northeast.railfan.net/bo_steam1.html
> http://www.steamlocomotive.com/bomuseum/
> http://www.dgbn.com/train/steam.html
> 
> > 
> > Quick wheel arrangement primer for US steam engines (I forget the name of
> > this system at the moment):
> > 
> > The number of wheels is represented with 3 numbers separated by dashes. • The
> > first is the number of wheels in front of the drive wheels, (aka drivers).
> > The second is the number of drivers.  The third is the number of wheels
> > behind the drivers.  If there are no leading or trailing wheels, put a • zero
> > in that slot.  So the Thatcher Perkins is a 4-6-0.  A 4-4-0 is a real
> > combination as well... called an "American" I believe.  I'm no expert, so • I
> > don't know if a 4-2-0 ever existed.  But I can tell you that Duplo steam
> > locomotives have that arrangement, so you can always use that as a guide • if
> > you don't care about representing a "real" engine.
> 
> At least 4-2-2 has existed. That one looks funny.
> 
> Sonnich
> www.hot.ee/sonnich/lego/

I saw a 4-2-0 on TV last night!  On that "Transcontinental Railroads" [USA]
show...
Josh



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From: Tony Hafner <hafhead@PANTSplanetquake.com> (...) the (...) a (...) the (...) it's (...) small (...) on (...) in (...) <set:162>. These were also in a few other sets. Another idea is to "kill" an old battery car (availible at LD, atl least in (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-01, to lugnet.trains)

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